[opensuse] openSUSE: Current state of virtualization
Hi All, I would like to take some time discussing virtualization inside openSUSE Linux OS. The main point I have is that openSUSE is very focused on one approach and solution, namely : Xen. As a Linux community-member I would like to request making openSUSE more virtualization-vendor neutral. I know, that besides Xen, openSUSE includes other solutions, such as: boxhs/(k)qemu/kvm/virtualbox and some VMware tools, which is good. openSUSE 11 also offers Lguest and virtual bridge configuration via Yast, so things are progressing. The main point is that those other solutions are absolutely not visible from Yast. When a user opens Yast, it automatically recommends the user to install Xen and reboot into Xen kernel, and besides that the documentation is very Xen-centric. So far we have 3 problems with virtualization in openSUSE, as I see it: 1. Yast offers Xen-only virtualization 2. Documentation explains about Xen, but not mentions other solutions at all 3. openSUSE lacks container-type virtualization (OpenVZ / cgroups) Now, with latest predictions that Citrix might drop Xen in favor of Hyper-V, we absolutely need - not to reject Xen - but at least become more vendor neutral. Link to article: http://www.brianmadden.com/blog/BrianMadden/Prediction-Citrix-will-drop-the-... I want to open feature-requests, but before that I prefer doing some open discussion. What do you think of it? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I know, that besides Xen, openSUSE includes other solutions, such as: boxhs/(k)qemu/kvm/virtualbox and some VMware tools, which is good. openSUSE 11 also offers Lguest and virtual bridge configuration via Yast, so things are progressing.
The main point is that those other solutions are absolutely not visible from Yast.
When a user opens Yast, it automatically recommends the user to install Xen and reboot into Xen kernel, and besides that the documentation is very Xen-centric.
I think it is more of a licensing issue than a opensuse issue. Vmware is commercial and the VirtualBox OSS doesn't contain USB, etc. As to promoting one over the other, I think your hands are tied from a legal standpoint. Besides, going to http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads and following directions followed by rpm -Uvh VirtualBox is fairly simple. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I know, that besides Xen, openSUSE includes other solutions, such as: boxhs/(k)qemu/kvm/virtualbox and some VMware tools, which is good. openSUSE 11 also offers Lguest and virtual bridge configuration via Yast, so things are progressing.
The main point is that those other solutions are absolutely not visible from Yast.
When a user opens Yast, it automatically recommends the user to install Xen and reboot into Xen kernel, and besides that the documentation is very Xen-centric.
I think it is more of a licensing issue than a opensuse issue. Vmware is commercial and the VirtualBox OSS doesn't contain USB, etc. As to promoting one over the other, I think your hands are tied from a legal standpoint.
Besides, going to http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads and following directions followed by rpm -Uvh VirtualBox is fairly simple.
I have been using the non-oss version that is now by Sun (and still a free download) and it works great including USB. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Alexey Eremenko
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David C. Rankin
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Ken Schneider