[opensuse] kcm_gtk -- again, can anyone confirm?
Listmates, Currently I am having problems with kcm_gtk (the control center module that makes your gtk apps [i.e. firefox/tbird/gimp] look like they should in kde). There have been 5+ versions of this module in the past 3 months and 3+ in the last two-weeks. Currently, the only way I can get thunderbird to look right is to manually start gnome-settings-daemon (which defeats the purpose of normally only using gcond-2 to apply the settings -- gnome-settings-daemon is rather big) With only gcond-2 running the gtk themes only partially render. Even with gnome-settings-daemon running, all the file (open/save/save-as) dialogs are screwed up. The coloring is ignored and the font size is screwed up. Here are a couple of screenshots that will help. gnome-settings-daemon is running in theses screenshots. (much worse with just gcond-2 running) The first shows this email message. Notice the menubar is blank (black text on black bg), and the menus are unreadable (black text on dark menus). (60k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-menus.jpg Basically, the part of opensuse that reads you .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 (or -kde for kde3) isn't using the gtk theme colors and is using a black default that really screws things up. Next, all of the dialogs (tooltips included), ignore your chosen font size and make all fonts Ginormous (Ji-norm-ous). It looks like a default 12pt font size is used instead of the set 8pt. (41k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-filesave.jpg I have tried 15+ versions of kcm_gtk and kde3-kcm_gtk going back to April 2009 and the results are the same. So I don't think it is the kcm_gtk package itself, but whatever part of opensuse reads the .gtkrc-2.0-kde* is likely what has changed and is now broken. Does anybody know what package/process this is? All was working great until 5-6 days ago, then after update, all hell broke loose. Anybody else seeing this? -- or am I just lucky :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/04/2010 12:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I have tried 15+ versions of kcm_gtk and kde3-kcm_gtk going back to April 2009 and the results are the same. So I don't think it is the kcm_gtk package itself, but whatever part of opensuse reads the .gtkrc-2.0-kde* is likely what has changed and is now broken. Does anybody know what package/process this is? All was working great until 5-6 days ago, then after update, all hell broke loose.
Anybody else seeing this? -- or am I just lucky :p
Ahah, Progress is being made. I was updating a spare drive that has 11.2 on it and while updating I was looking at this kcm_gtk issue. The problem has something to do with updating Firefox from 3.5.9 -> 3.6.3. I had completely updated the 11.2 box and the gtk themes were rendering fine in kde3 and kde4. Then I went to the Mozilla Community repository and updated firefox/tbird from 3.5.9 to 3.6.3. Bingo, immediately there were gtk them rendering problems with all dialogs. The apps still looked OK, but the dialogs were using huge fonts and coloration was bad (like gradients are ignored and only one of the gradient colors is being used) I can't see how firefox or thunderbird could cause this issue, especially since I see the problems in Gimp as well. I didn't think they were related. Regardless, a simple test is to test gtk theme rendering with firefox <= 5.9, then update to firefox 6.3.6 and look at the rendering again. I can't explain it, but the difference was night and day. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/04/2010 11:23 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/04/2010 12:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I have tried 15+ versions of kcm_gtk and kde3-kcm_gtk going back to April 2009 and the results are the same. So I don't think it is the kcm_gtk package itself, but whatever part of opensuse reads the .gtkrc-2.0-kde* is likely what has changed and is now broken. Does anybody know what package/process this is? All was working great until 5-6 days ago, then after update, all hell broke loose.
Anybody else seeing this? -- or am I just lucky :p
Ahah,
Progress is being made. I was updating a spare drive that has 11.2 on it and while updating I was looking at this kcm_gtk issue. The problem has something to do with updating Firefox from 3.5.9 -> 3.6.3. I had completely updated the 11.2 box and the gtk themes were rendering fine in kde3 and kde4. Then I went to the Mozilla Community repository and updated firefox/tbird from 3.5.9 to 3.6.3. Bingo, immediately there were gtk them rendering problems with all dialogs. The apps still looked OK, but the dialogs were using huge fonts and coloration was bad (like gradients are ignored and only one of the gradient colors is being used)
I can't see how firefox or thunderbird could cause this issue, especially since I see the problems in Gimp as well. I didn't think they were related. Regardless, a simple test is to test gtk theme rendering with firefox <= 5.9, then update to firefox 6.3.6 and look at the rendering again. I can't explain it, but the difference was night and day.
Oh the irony, There is no gtk dialog or menu problem when running tbird under fluxbox. It is ONLY kde where a bug was created in the past week. Here is a perfect screenshot of what my gtk apps did in the past, and should look like now, in both kdes: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-menus-fluxbox.jpg Compare that to what they look like in kde now: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-menus.jpg and the ugly font size and invisible text in kde: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-filesave.jpg compared to the proper dialog rendering in fluxbox: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-dialog-flux.jpg Any more thoughts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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