Anyone worked out how to fix this silly thing yet? Other than going back to 8.0? Error message from KDE2 backtrace (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 5547)] 0x40ab6289 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40ab6289 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40b24828 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x402cecd0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /opt/kde2/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3 0x4112cdbd in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #4 <signal handler called> #5 0x404aefc7 in QCursor::handle () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #6 0x404cde9d in QWidget::create () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #7 0x4056e4d6 in QWidget::QWidget () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #8 0x40279956 in KApplication::init () from /opt/kde2/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #9 0x40279133 in KApplication::KApplication () from /opt/kde2/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #10 0x8056a7f in QCollection::newItem () #11 0x805783e in QCollection::newItem () #12 0x40a29c6f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 And from console: KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kwintv path = <unknown> Stupid thing.... Matt