The first time, my co-worker recommended a different (non-MS) defragger that was able to move more non-movable (according to MS) stuff on the drive first, then used SuSE to shrink the partition to the size larger than I KNEW data was stored. The harddrive died within a month. Bad lot I think because they replaced it with different brand / part number entirely. anyway The second time I had to "restore" the drive from cd-media from HP (like Compaq's Quick-restore) and was able to specify the size of the partition during the process. You may want to use the "restore" cd's if you get/got them to make sure you actually can down the road and be sure everything works FWIW B-) On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:05 am, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:

On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:54, Brad Bourn wrote:

Before installing SuSE, did you use a partitioning program to limit the amount of room Windows took or is Suse good at optimizing the amount of space Windows XP Home takes when it is installed?

dj tuchler

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seriously, though, I have to admit that although I haven't used it since I got it, I've left the windows partition on my new laptop if for nothing else than to have for someone else to use if need be. And to help take up space on the harddrive.

Also carrying it around with me as prone as it is to virus and the like, I get to live dangerously without actually taking the risk of booting it.

B-)

On Tuesday 21 December 2004 09:43 am, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:

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I just bought a laptop with XP Home on it. I will be loading SuSE 9.2 on the hd when I get the laptop.

My Question: Is XP Home capable of running the general run of Windows stuff so that it is worth keeping and running as an alternative to SuSE?

Thanks

dj tuchler

Brad Bourn wrote:

Nothing is worth keeping and running as an alternative to SuSE! let alone from M$!

heheh

seriously, though, I have to admit that although I haven't used it since I got it, I've left the windows partition on my new laptop if for nothing else than to have for someone else to use if need be. And to help take up space on the harddrive.

Also carrying it around with me as prone as it is to virus and the like, I get to live dangerously without actually taking the risk of booting it.

Careful, it might still catch a virus even when powered off -- so I'm paranoid. I've got a neighbour who has a problem with malware, luckily he didn't click on it when it appeared, It's a scam by tibsystems.com where they apparently (they say so) can even hijack your broadband connection and route it via their anonymous number, so you get charged 75.00 UK Pounds (140.00 US) for every hour spent online, seems to be some peer-to-peer scammers network. He got a guy to clean it out, but it's reappeared. Anti-Virus software doesn't know it's there and the spyware/malware products are not effective, XP firewall is ineffective, so I'm due to pay visit No.3 to see if the tackle I have on CD is man enough to clear it out. I must email the RHCE guy who said it took him 5 hours to completely remove one such bit of malware from his wife's XP box, now a Linux box, perhaps I can get a few tips from him. If the MS advert I saw today on the web is what MS reckon is a secure and robust OS, namely XP, then they are chronically delusionary or security-wise severly retarded. There was an article a few days ago at msn.com by a guy at MS on "How can I trust Firefox?", I posted an apposite response to his blog, which surprisingly got moderated. This evening I picked upp a mail from PC Magazine with an article on spyware/malware being out of control by Dvorak, it's an educational read. When I got my nice new laptop, I booted XP just to check the main things worked, a few minutes later the HD was wiped of the dead fish and SuSE 9.1 installation began. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:35:18 +0100, you wrote:

tisdag 21 december 2004 17:43 skrev Dennis J. Tuchler:

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I just bought a laptop with XP Home on it. I will be loading SuSE 9.2 on the hd when I get the laptop.

My Question: Is XP Home capable of running the general run of Windows stuff so that it is worth keeping and running as an alternative to SuSE?

The only difference between XP Home and XP professional is the network. XP Home has a Windows 98/ME type network access, that doesn't allow for network logon to domains, while XP Professional does. Some programs are also not "installed" by default on XP Home, like ntbackup, but they're on the CD.

If you have a laptop, then you're unlikely to want the "domain logon" feature anyways.

They busted a whole lot more than that - you don't want XP home on a work lan - period. They bypassed all of the security functionality, gods know how. Mike- -- If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs... You may have a great career as a network administrator ahead! -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,

On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 18:49, Michael W Cocke wrote:

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:35:18 +0100, you wrote:

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tisdag 21 december 2004 17:43 skrev Dennis J. Tuchler:

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I just bought a laptop with XP Home on it. I will be loading SuSE 9.2 on the hd when I get the laptop.

My Question: Is XP Home capable of running the general run of Windows stuff so that it is worth keeping and running as an alternative to SuSE?

The only difference between XP Home and XP professional is the network. XP Home has a Windows 98/ME type network access, that doesn't allow for network logon to domains, while XP Professional does. Some programs are also not "installed" by default on XP Home, like ntbackup, but they're on the CD.

If you have a laptop, then you're unlikely to want the "domain logon" feature anyways.

They busted a whole lot more than that - you don't want XP home on a work lan - period. They bypassed all of the security functionality, gods know how.

Mike-

Isn't that about what they did with the old XS chips? A 486XS was basically a broken version of the DX chip and to get the FPU running you had to install a DX chip along side the XS chip. IIRC. Mike

onsdag 22 december 2004 00:49 skrev Michael W Cocke:

They busted a whole lot more than that - you don't want XP home on a work lan - period. They bypassed all of the security functionality, gods know how.

XP Home, is for a home computer. The specifics of a Home computer, is that there's usually just one user, the owner of the computer, thus there's no reason to keep all the security options there. There's no reason to allow multiple users, with multiple access rights on. XP Home also has non of the so called "cache" issues of XP Professional, which makes it far more convenient to have on a "lose" type network. When I say "lose" type, I mean the kind of network most Windows users are used to, the one without strict domain control. XP Professional, is made to exist within a domain, but also be able to function outside it occasionally ... so, if you have a laptop with XP Professional, that is usually logged onto inside the domain, and suddenly the domain goes down, you're still able to logon, without the domain controller. Personally, I favor XP Home, more than I do XP Professional. The word "Professional" doesn't make it that. The domain logon feature on the Windows Platform is a total flop, anyways. Most users save all their stuff on their desktop, and everytime you log onto a domain, it's gonna take an hour to download your "desktop" files. So, if you want a true "centralized" networking functionality ... stick to Linux/Unix workstations. If you only need sharing files and folders, with printer sharing, etc. You can use Windows or Mac. My 2¢ worth. Örn

Þann Sunnudagur 26 desember 2004 17:31 skrifaði Kevin Krieser:

It doesn't come with Remote Desktop support (the reason I upgraded to Pro instead of home on my home computer, since I could avoid also upgrading PC Anywhere). Too bad that my ATI board would lockup the system if the TV was enabled and I tried RD :)

Remote Administration on windows, ok ... Remote Desktop is a joke, imo. Originally I said, that if you want anything of the sort, I'd suggest Linux/Unix and not windows. I took a "certification" course, several months ago and they used Windows 2000 to run it, and they took their servers to the certification locale which wasn't online. The entire system was bound on, that you could log into the system, despite it was away from the domain because Windows 2000 + XP (And I think NT in general) cache logins, so you can login to a cached domain session. They spent hours trying to get things to work, in that environment ... of course, you could say they were amateurs. But they were "certified" Microsoft Engineers and certified to certify as well. So, my overall estimation is that if you are in need of an environment with some centralized control, remote desktop and you chose windows xp, 2000 or whatever. You simply have gone ding ... windows is a flop in that environment. Especially with Remote Desktop, where really never get the same Desktop on different Computers, unless the computers are identical. And then there's the "disk space", to maintain all the "Desktops" and the initial wait to download them. Of course, Windows does have some nice "tools" for AD, for centralized control ... but you're really better off with an admin that knows what needs to be done, in a Unix/Linux environment. However, in a good windows environment with file and printer sharing, ones is usually just as well off with the Home edition. Because the XP Pro, doesn't provide diddly that people merely interested in file and printer sharing, and not centralized administration, want. The Windows users I've seen, generally think the damn login's are a neusance. Windows users, and companies that chose such environment, generally have very little clue about security and advantages of centralized administration. What they really want, is a Windows Home (Mac) environment and the rest is just some stuff they read in a magazine and want to look cool. My 2¢ worth, Örn