I just heard that XFree86 version 4.0 is released, with a single X Server and native freetype support. Will SuSE Linux 6.4 include it? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I just heard that XFree86 version 4.0 is released, with a single X Server and native freetype support.
Will SuSE Linux 6.4 include it?
Most unlikely. It's a vital component and will need to undergo some serious testing (both of it, and how apps run under it). There isn't time. I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Derek Fountain wrote:
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
Well, I skipped 6.3 so I'm ready for 6.4. :-)
And I think that if SuSE still go for a release every 3-4 months,
they could actually release yet another "minor release" before
the 2.4 kernel arrives.
And from what I read at the linux-kernel mailinglist, they still
have quite some work to do before they can release 2.4.
---J.T.U.
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I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
Well, I skipped 6.3 so I'm ready for 6.4. :-) And I think that if SuSE still go for a release every 3-4 months, they could actually release yet another "minor release" before the 2.4 kernel arrives. And from what I read at the linux-kernel mailinglist, they still have quite some work to do before they can release 2.4.
6.3 was worth it for me because I wanted KDE-1.1.2; it also has a kernel which was much tidier for SMP machines which I have. If you use GNOME, which is still a work in progress AFAICS, having the latest version is probably worth it. Other than that, unless you need the latest hardware support, I can't see what significant improvements 6.4 will offer over 6.3. I guess someone will advise me... :-) PS Your sig is far too big! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hello,
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? Well here's one who's not. I'm not upgrading till both SuSE and Star Office support TrueType fonts out of the box.
George -- My personal website http://www.firstnethou.com/gz/welcome.htm -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Derek Fountain wrote:
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I think SuSE would be better off to abandon 6.4 entirely, wait for a month or so, and go with 7.0 and all the goodies. About the only people who will get 6.4 are those who get every new release as a matter of principle and those who are getting their first SuSE system. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:27:46 -0500, you wrote:
Derek Fountain wrote:
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I think SuSE would be better off to abandon 6.4 entirely, wait for a month or so, and go with 7.0 and all the goodies. About the only people who will get 6.4 are those who get every new release as a matter of principle and those who are getting their first SuSE system.
Well I was waiting for 6.4 to upgrade from 6.1, but I think I will wait another couple of months - but it is just like buying computers though... if you wait a little while longer there will always been something better. So when I decide to get 7.0, 7.1 will be just around the corner with many more bugs already fixed. Stuart -- Stuart Hall Cheshire, Connecticut, USA Linux User# 141732 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I'll probably just install XF4.0. Wouldn't that be easier than waiting for an rpm from suse? I mean most of the stuff we install anyways is not an rpm(well in my case). Same goes for linux-2.4. Well, anyways, back to work... Justin -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Hall [mailto:stuarthall@mailandnews.com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 9:37 AM To: SuSE English Subject: Re: [SLE] XFree86 V4 On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:27:46 -0500, you wrote:
Derek Fountain wrote:
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I think SuSE would be better off to abandon 6.4 entirely, wait for a month or so, and go with 7.0 and all the goodies. About the only people who will get 6.4 are those who get every new release as a matter of principle and those who are getting their first SuSE system.
Well I was waiting for 6.4 to upgrade from 6.1, but I think I will wait another couple of months - but it is just like buying computers though... if you wait a little while longer there will always been something better. So when I decide to get 7.0, 7.1 will be just around the corner with many more bugs already fixed. Stuart -- Stuart Hall Cheshire, Connecticut, USA Linux User# 141732 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I wonder how many people will skip SuSE-6.4 and wait for the Linux-2.4/XFree-4.0/KDE-2.0 distro which will follow it (SuSE-7.0?)? I can't see a compelling reason for me to upgrade my boxes with another minor release.
I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I think SuSE would be better off to abandon 6.4 entirely, wait for a month or so, and go with 7.0 and all the goodies. About the only people who will get 6.4 are those who get every new release as a matter of principle and those who are getting their first SuSE system.
It'll be more than a month or so. Linux-2.4 is still 3 or 4 months away at best. There's loads of work to do on that, and Linus will test it under a code freeze for at least a couple of months. KDE-2.0 is at least the same time frame away. That's not in code freeze yet either. My guess is, tho, that the next SuSE after 6.4 will be Linux-2.4 and KDE-2 based. As you say, there hardly seems any point to 6.4, let alone a 6.5. Of course, we don't know all the facts. I suspect big improvements to YaST2 will be in 6.4 and SuSE will be looking to run those in a bit. My feeling is that the 7.x generation distros will be the ones to really wake up the desktop users. Another 6-8 months and the installers will be better, we will have a faster filesystem as standard (ReiserFS will become the defacto standard for big disks I reckon), we will have significantly faster and better graphics with the new XFree, a better StarOffice, and GNOME and, in particular, KDE-2, will match or beat the competition. Users will try it, then start to insist that app writers port to Linux. If the Wine library works by then - and I think it will because Corel's Perfect Office 2000 is out in a couple of months - those apps will arrive. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Paul W. Abrahams (abrahams@valinet.com) [20000310 16:28]:
I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I think SuSE would be better off to abandon 6.4 entirely, wait for a month or so, and go with 7.0 and all the goodies.
Paul, you don't seem to know what it takes to build a distribution :)
There's far more involved than could be done in a month. And even XFree86
claim 4.0 not ready for prime time, i.e. ready to replace 3.3.6. This is
because there are still drivers missing from 4.0 (e.g. S3 non VIRGE) and
because 4.0 hasn't been tested enough to really declare it stable.
And even if 4.0 was stable, we'd have to test all major parts of the system
that depends on X11 and that's no small task. Bear with me when I say that
for some folks 6.4 *will* be worth the update.
Watch out this space for when 6.4 is out and we're free to talk about its
features :-)
Philipp
PS For me personally, the switch to gcc 2.95.2 and thus to one single compiler
would be worth it, but of cause YMMV :)
--
Philipp Thomas
Hi, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
I just heard that XFree86 version 4.0 is released, with a single X Server and native freetype support.
Will SuSE Linux 6.4 include it?
Well, not as the default X window system, but we will provide RPMs in the "unsorted" directory on CD1. Back to work! (I already have more than 1.500 messages in Folder SLE...) Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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