Convert to Outlook from Mozilla/Thunderbird
Due to politics at work I am being forced to use Outlook, but not Windows (at least a little ray of light remains). Has any one moved email from Mozilla/Thunderbird to LookOut (thank you Mark Minasi), err, I mean Outlook? Not that I expect anyone has wanted to do this. Thanks. John
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:14 -0400, John Scott wrote:
If you're using outlook with pop3, you can just start courier-pop3 and pop all your mail from the courier account on your machine. Set up your filters first :-) I have, both at work and home, completely switched to using a local imap server for local mail store. This gives me the advantage of being able to chop&change between mail clients anytime without much hassle. --- Kind regards Hans du Plooy SagacIT (Pty) Ltd hansdp at sagacit dot com
John, On Saturday 09 April 2005 20:14, John Scott wrote:
Not knowing what falls under the rubric of "politics," I feel compelled to point out that with a bit of clever configuration, Thunderbird (and probably KMail) can deal with Exchange servers. At least I know that when configured as the ones at my work are configured, they'll talk IMAP and you can use standards-based mail clients, losing only things like calendar support (for which we have recourse to a tolerable Web-based interface). Have you explored whether this approach would remain viable for you even in the face of the "political" forces at work at your place of employement? By the way Carl Spitzer's "Out[of]Luck" play on "Outlook" works for me, too.
John
Randall Schulz
As well as LookOut Distress for the other MS mail client, also courtesy of Mark Minasi. Moving on. The powers that be at the university made the grand decision that everyone needs to collaborate with every department on every campus not knowing (or not caring) that not all depts didn't use Exchange. The powers that be in my part of campus (the lower higher ups if you will) then decided no pop and no imap, mapi only. Great choice there, yeah. They then went on to deny access to owa if you're on campus which means no Evolution for me or any other reader that uses owa to get to Exchage via mapi. So, I've been backed into Outlook. I presented my arguments why this was bad; showed them monthly/yearly reports of the Top Ten virii and the affected platform/mail app (care to guess, one chance only), how just running Exchange doesn't guarantee collaboration with another Exchange server (different forests) unless you cough up some cash (Exchange connector), the outlay of cash to get AD/Exchange and all the licensing and the Exchange connectors. All of it ignored. My dept. head basically just told me to shut up and don't draw attention to the dept. Doesn't want to be known for causing "trouble". Whatever. I told them that when this goes south, and it will, I want something to say I told you so. I have kept every email, meeting notes, and research that I have done to CYA. I tried pitching OpenXchange, Groupwise, Netmail, etc., etc. All of it on deaf ears. So, I've told them I'm not moving my box from Linux, I refuse, I use for too much in my day to day job. Fortunately, I've got a Citrix box, I just need to migrate my mail from Mozilla to Outlook somehow along with about 20 or so others. <rant> Fortunately I'm not alone in my misery (since it loves company), all the Mac users are in the same corner with me. A few have clout, so I'm trying to start a mutiny. We're the ones that cause little to no problems with regards to security, networking, yada, yada, but we're treated as if we're the problem instead of their ill advised, not planned out solution being the problem. Well, I guess we are the problem to their solution is their viewpoint. "How come you use that OS/application instead of Microsoft?" Oh, maybe because I like to get actual work done without having to worry about some malware or the OS or app killing my box and costing me hours or days. I swear they're like zombies. If only it was possible to scan people to see if they a bot installed. "Oh sorry, you've got a MS bot installed. You're technical opinion means nothing to me." Oh well, longsuffering and all that goes with it. </rant> John
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 23:14 -0400, John Scott wrote:
If you're using outlook with pop3, you can just start courier-pop3 and pop all your mail from the courier account on your machine. Set up your filters first :-) I have, both at work and home, completely switched to using a local imap server for local mail store. This gives me the advantage of being able to chop&change between mail clients anytime without much hassle. --- Kind regards Hans du Plooy SagacIT (Pty) Ltd hansdp at sagacit dot com
John, On Saturday 09 April 2005 20:14, John Scott wrote:
Not knowing what falls under the rubric of "politics," I feel compelled to point out that with a bit of clever configuration, Thunderbird (and probably KMail) can deal with Exchange servers. At least I know that when configured as the ones at my work are configured, they'll talk IMAP and you can use standards-based mail clients, losing only things like calendar support (for which we have recourse to a tolerable Web-based interface). Have you explored whether this approach would remain viable for you even in the face of the "political" forces at work at your place of employement? By the way Carl Spitzer's "Out[of]Luck" play on "Outlook" works for me, too.
John
Randall Schulz
As well as LookOut Distress for the other MS mail client, also courtesy of Mark Minasi. Moving on. The powers that be at the university made the grand decision that everyone needs to collaborate with every department on every campus not knowing (or not caring) that not all depts didn't use Exchange. The powers that be in my part of campus (the lower higher ups if you will) then decided no pop and no imap, mapi only. Great choice there, yeah. They then went on to deny access to owa if you're on campus which means no Evolution for me or any other reader that uses owa to get to Exchage via mapi. So, I've been backed into Outlook. I presented my arguments why this was bad; showed them monthly/yearly reports of the Top Ten virii and the affected platform/mail app (care to guess, one chance only), how just running Exchange doesn't guarantee collaboration with another Exchange server (different forests) unless you cough up some cash (Exchange connector), the outlay of cash to get AD/Exchange and all the licensing and the Exchange connectors. All of it ignored. My dept. head basically just told me to shut up and don't draw attention to the dept. Doesn't want to be known for causing "trouble". Whatever. I told them that when this goes south, and it will, I want something to say I told you so. I have kept every email, meeting notes, and research that I have done to CYA. I tried pitching OpenXchange, Groupwise, Netmail, etc., etc. All of it on deaf ears. So, I've told them I'm not moving my box from Linux, I refuse, I use for too much in my day to day job. Fortunately, I've got a Citrix box, I just need to migrate my mail from Mozilla to Outlook somehow along with about 20 or so others. <rant> Fortunately I'm not alone in my misery (since it loves company), all the Mac users are in the same corner with me. A few have clout, so I'm trying to start a mutiny. We're the ones that cause little to no problems with regards to security, networking, yada, yada, but we're treated as if we're the problem instead of their ill advised, not planned out solution being the problem. Well, I guess we are the problem to their solution is their viewpoint. "How come you use that OS/application instead of Microsoft?" Oh, maybe because I like to get actual work done without having to worry about some malware or the OS or app killing my box and costing me hours or days. I swear they're like zombies. If only it was possible to scan people to see if they a bot installed. "Oh sorry, you've got a MS bot installed. You're technical opinion means nothing to me." Oh well, longsuffering and all that goes with it. </rant> John
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Randall R Schulz