[opensuse] YaST (Software Management) and zypper give different package update results
YaST does not show the same packages that zypper (through konsole, after su -) does. This was after I updated to KDE 4.2; also have KDE 3.5 installed. # rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up Doing the above, after su to root from init 3, gives a totally different set of packages (which are correct, going by the version numbers), than what YaST (GUI : YAST --> Software Management) shows. Search showed me the yast2 Repair Tool at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/packageinfo.jsp?checksum=b508b5f52d3fb7f50e083e94580093e919dbc794&distro=openSUSE_111 . Any idea what this does ? how I can repair YaST GUI to accurately show updates and packages ? Thanks, Jay -- Registered Linux User # 483705 @ http://counter.li.org/ (openSUSE 11.1, i686) Smolts Profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_b541a450-9bc1-45fd-beab-d46ee43a... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Jay Mistry <jaylinux53@gmail.com> wrote:
YaST does not show the same packages that zypper (through konsole, after su -) does. This was after I updated to KDE 4.2; also have KDE 3.5 installed.
# rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up
Doing the above, after su to root from init 3, gives a totally different set of packages (which are correct, going by the version numbers), than what YaST (GUI : YAST --> Software Management) shows.
Search showed me the yast2 Repair Tool at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/packageinfo.jsp?checksum=b508b5f52d3fb7f50e083e94580093e919dbc794&distro=openSUSE_111 . Any idea what this does ? how I can repair YaST GUI to accurately show updates and packages ?
Thanks,
Jay
-- Registered Linux User # 483705 @ http://counter.li.org/ (openSUSE 11.1, i686) Smolts Profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_b541a450-9bc1-45fd-beab-d46ee43a... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Seems as if it replaces YaST modules based on the file contents of the package... Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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YaST does not show the same packages that zypper (through konsole, after su -) does. This was after I updated to KDE 4.2; also have KDE 3.5 installed.
The behavior of YaST does not depend on KDE or QT, the problem must be somewhere else.
# rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up
Doing the above, after su to root from init 3, gives a totally different set of packages (which are correct, going by the version numbers), than what YaST (GUI : YAST --> Software Management) shows.
How did you try to update via YaST? - -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team - ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 - ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz - ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknQunoACgkQgEhGpmN+6QHLlgCdG644qSnq57+K1ET5zC6juu32 7O4An0rx7eRJ88fG7qvliNu2qO/DKC/5 =UhYX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Jan Kupec <jkupec@suse.cz> wrote:
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Jay Mistry wrote:
YaST does not show the same packages that zypper (through konsole, after su -) does. This was after I updated to KDE 4.2; also have KDE 3.5 installed.
The behavior of YaST does not depend on KDE or QT, the problem must be somewhere else.
# rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up
Doing the above, after su to root from init 3, gives a totally different set of packages (which are correct, going by the version numbers), than what YaST (GUI : YAST --> Software Management) shows.
How did you try to update via YaST?
As mentioned, (at that time) I had logged into Yast (as root) & then -> Software Management. _Note_ However, please note that this may have been en error on my part, as I do not recall exactly what or how many packages were separately given by Yast & zypper and what repositories I had in Yast- subsequently, I changed these to get a working KDE 4.2.1 install. This was during the time when KDE 4.2 was newly released and I was trying to update from KDE 4.1.3 to KDE 4.2. There was some misunderstanding then about what repo's to add for KDE 4.2 & Qt (Qt 4.4/ only Qt). Now though, I have a relatively stable KDE 4.2.1 with Qt 4.5. Presently, I generally do updates (via Yast GUI, and only when major new releases are brought in) after filtering 'By Repository' or 'By Package Group'; I find this gives me much greater control over what and how many packages to update - eg, for the KDE 4 Factory Repo [1]; I avoid updating bandwidth-consuming packages that are unnecessary to be updated- such as 'oxygen-icon-theme', 'kdebase4-wallpapers', games, etc. Doing 'zypper -up' gives the whole gamut of updates for that repository- including many packages that I do not need.
..... Search showed me the yast2 Repair Tool at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/packageinfo.jsp?checksum=b508b5f52d3fb7f50e083e94580093e919dbc794&distro=openSUSE_111 . Any idea what this does ? how I can repair YaST GUI to accurately show updates and packages ?
Can you shed any light on this (Yast2 Repair Tool) ? I have not been able to get any information on what it is supposed to do (in an installed openSUSE system) ?
cheers, jano
Ján Kupec YaST team
Thanks, Jay [1] http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU... -- Linux User 483705 (openSUSE 11.1, Fedora 10) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Jan Kupec <jkupec@suse.cz> wrote:
# rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up
Doing the above, after su to root from init 3, gives a totally different set of packages (which are correct, going by the version numbers), than what YaST (GUI : YAST --> Software Management) shows. How did you try to update via YaST?
As mentioned, (at that time) I had logged into Yast (as root) & then -> Software Management.
OK, this preselects a few packages for update automatically, if available (the same which 'zypper inr' would install). But what did you do then? Did you choose "Upgrade all packages to newer version if available" (that should be roughly equivalent to 'zypper up', but i'm not exactly sure) or something like that?
Presently, I generally do updates (via Yast GUI, and only when major new releases are brought in) after filtering 'By Repository' or 'By Package Group'; I find this gives me much greater control over what and how many packages to update - eg, for the KDE 4 Factory Repo [1];
Yes, that is a good approach for your case. Although you can do this with zypper as well ('zypper lu', 'zypper up package1 package2 ...'), it is more convenient to this in yast GUI in this case.
I avoid updating bandwidth-consuming packages that are unnecessary to be updated- such as 'oxygen-icon-theme', 'kdebase4-wallpapers', games, etc. Doing 'zypper -up' gives the whole gamut of updates for that repository- including many packages that I do not need.
The only way that we could make this more convenient on command line would be to allow the user to feed zypper with a list of package names s/he wants to get updated from a file (that would be handy for a GUI as well). Alternatively, package locks (Taboo/Protected in YaST, 'zypper *lock*' commands) can be used to avoid updates of specific packages.
..... Search showed me the yast2 Repair Tool at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/packageinfo.jsp?checksum=b508b5f52d3fb7f50e083e94580093e919dbc794&distro=openSUSE_111 . Any idea what this does ? how I can repair YaST GUI to accurately show updates and packages ?
Can you shed any light on this (Yast2 Repair Tool) ? I have not been able to get any information on what it is supposed to do (in an installed openSUSE system) ?
The Repair module is described here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:YaST_System_Repair - -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team - ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 - ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz - ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknR+icACgkQgEhGpmN+6QHueACfakSUN66NKgeMbippbDGFGrXn U3YAnRoAQAr+PwAtTQgrsUiYYUQ22X+K =OIpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-02-19 at 18:55 +0530, Jay Mistry wrote:
YaST does not show the same packages that zypper (through konsole, after su -) does. This was after I updated to KDE 4.2; also have KDE 3.5 installed.
# rpmdb --rebuilddb # zypper refresh -b # zypper up
If you are using 11.1, I believe that you should use instead "zypper patch", which does the same as yast update (ie, a security update). "Zypper up" updates to newer version if available. - -------- NOT_nimrodel:~ # zypper help up update (up) [options] ... Update all or specified installed packages with newer versions, if possible. ... NOT_nimrodel:~ # zypper help patch patch [options] Install all available needed patches. - -------- Zypper patch in 11.1 is equivalent to zypper up in 11.0, I understand. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknSBMIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V/kgCcCvu0C8fffGDvg50KAuj0l9Uw 2g8AoIAUHKZ+e1i2c6UoZk4jyDI8Pcv5 =mK7z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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