Patrick Shanahan said the following on 01/27/2012 10:13 AM:

* Anton Aylward [01-27-12 09:19]:

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I had a power-out crash (don't ask) and when the machine came back up after plugging the power cord in again and locking the cat out I find Thunderbird misbehaving.

try opening the mail with mutt, easy install and not a lot of dependencies.

That makes no sense to me.

if mail appears *normal*, we can go further and export to a new location and you can import back into tb

is tb using mbox?

No, it using IMAP. The mail is stored on the mail-hub machine which did not suffer the cat-astrophe. Patrick, there is no problem with the mail, reading the mail. It is the local-to-tbird stuff like the accumulator and the history of move/copy that has become sc-err-mucked up. The mail is in that. I can still read the mail, send mail. Its the added functionality" of tbird that took the hit. Somewhere, tbird maintains its own index and counters and memory of what tbird has done (such as "move to again"). Yes maintaining the index when Dovecot already has an index of the headers (and the body since it does full text indexing with Plucine) is wasteful (but the same can be said about KMail and duplicating the index with nepomuk). But that's all beside the point and not at issue here. The problem I'm faced with is local to Thunderbird and nothing to do with mail store. I see, as I access each folder with tbird, that it re-indexes, get a new count of the unread. Fine, but the history for "move to recent" is still absent and it still thinks every file id a draft. I see under ~/.thunderbird the file 'virtualFolders.dat'. Does the status flags there have anything to do with 'draft'? -- "On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage 1791-1871) English computer pioneer, philosopher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Anton Aylward [01-28-12 09:06]: ...

Could you be a bit more specific, please.

In this case ~/.thunderbird is physically on a file server on a ReiserFS on LVM and used LVM snapshot for backup.

ReiserFS is about the most robust I've found. Pulling the plug on it is not a problem.

Now because it is on the file server, and the file server didn't go down when the cat got the power cord for the workstation, the problem is limited to files that T'Bird had NFS-open and T'Bird files that were local to the workstation.

From further comment and reflection I would guess that your tb install is borked, not the mail files. Have you reinstalled tb?

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Changed subject line. I was thinking about 'dwaft', to see will anyone notice. :) On Saturday, January 28, 2012 08:03:41 AM Anton Aylward wrote:

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On 28/01/12 01:16, Anton Aylward wrote: ...

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Thunderbird misbehaving. ... Oh, all the account settings were there but all 'history' had been lost, the counts on the folders, and the "moveto -> recent" history. ... 1. Every message in every folder is now a 'draft" as in it says "This is a draft message" and shows an edit button. EVERY message in EVERY folder, not just the ones in the draft folder. Its as if every folder has been marked 'draft'

2. When I do move stuff from inbox to another folder (or 'possible junk' to false-positive or false-negative) the destination folder should be added to the 'recent' history. It isn't, that remains empty. ... What is isn't

- corrupt file system - access permissions under ~/.thunderbird ... Well mine is "installed" on about 8 or 9 partitions under LVM and

Basil Chupin said the following on 01/27/2012 08:23 PM: there's more stuff that's NFS mounted form the server. ... In this case ~/.thunderbird is physically on a file server on a ReiserFS on LVM and used LVM snapshot for backup. ... Now because it is on the file server, and the file server didn't go down when the cat got the power cord for the workstation, the problem is limited to files that T'Bird had NFS-open and T'Bird files that were local to the workstation.

Right. My installation is local. I made diff between running and not-running thunderbird. List of files with time stamp change. cert8.db folderTree.json key3.db localstore.rdf panacea.dat prefs.js virtualFolders.dat I just opened TB, received email, let filters run, and closed. There could be more files that could be changed with other actions applied, but you can capture that after performing some actions that you are interested in. List of files that exist only with running thunderbird. lock -> 127.0.0.2:+8749 << probably server_address:pid session.json Also, I see few .sqlite files and that prompted me to look for SQLite cleanup procedure. There is article related to Firefox speedup: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Clean_Firefox_Database I think that actual need would be to have something to fix databases, but that is beyond me :) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org