[opensuse] Fighting Thunderbird
Hi, For a while now I have been under a tremendous pressure from my system (OS11.2 x64) to upgrade to Thunderbird 3.0. However I do not want to upgrade before Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons are available as I absolutely need them. As a matter of fact YaST2 managed to install it twice against my will during "All Packages > Update if Newer Version is Available". The list of packages was very long and I did not notice Thunderbird 3 hidden in there. And now I see that the Updater Applet is pushing TB3.0 as a patch. Here's what I tried to resist the onslaught: * Added TB to the lock list in Zypper. That seems to work as expected. However I do not use Zypper to maintain my system but YaST2. * In YaST2 I tried adding the Mozilla:Legacy repo with the highest priority and switched TB to the version of this repo (2.0.0.23.1-3). That works in the sense that YaST2 does not propose upgrades of TB anymore but unfortunately that works just as well with Firefox for which I DO want updates to the latest version * In YaST2 I tried to set TB to "protected" (the little lock icon). Doing this prevents TB from being updated but only for the current YaST2 session. If I close and restart, the "protected" status is gone. So I guess I have 2 questions: 1. When can we expect x64 versions of the Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons compatible with TB3? I checked the nightly builds and they do not provide an x64 version. 2. What is the best strategy to prevent a package from being upgraded with YaST2? Thanks, ~/jc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Can I add to this as well, the updater app is insistent about installing the firefox patch on my system. I don't have firefox installed? Sorry to hi-jack your thread jc, but the issues sound very similar. Dave ------------- root@crankyadmin.net cranky@archlinux.us -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am 22.12.2009 09:44, schrieb David Houston:
Can I add to this as well, the updater app is insistent about installing the firefox patch on my system. I don't have firefox installed?
Sorry to hi-jack your thread jc, but the issues sound very similar.
I don't think that's similar. Update packages are grouped as patches and have one description and summary. So even if you don't have Firefox installed you might have packages installed which are updated from the same patch and so you get it offered as update. Still only the packages which are already installed will get updated. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
Am 22.12.2009 09:44, schrieb David Houston:
Can I add to this as well, the updater app is insistent about installing the firefox patch on my system. I don't have firefox installed?
Sorry to hi-jack your thread jc, but the issues sound very similar.
I don't think that's similar. Update packages are grouped as patches and have one description and summary. So even if you don't have Firefox installed you might have packages installed which are updated from the same patch and so you get it offered as update. Still only the packages which are already installed will get updated.
Wolfgang
Correction: Updater has just popped up. It's trying to install firefox and a firefox patch. What packages would be using the same patch as titled 'firefox-patch' upgrade to version 3.5 besides firefox? Dave ------------- root@crankyadmin.net cranky@archlinux.us -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 22. Dezember 2009 10:01:33 schrieb David Houston:
Correction: Updater has just popped up. It's trying to install firefox and a firefox patch.
What packages would be using the same patch as titled 'firefox-patch' upgrade to version 3.5 besides firefox?
You can check that with YaST > Software > Online-Update. Just click on the Firefox update and have a look at the list on the right. I guess it is some mozilla-* package. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 22/12/09 18:17, JC Francois wrote:
Hi,
For a while now I have been under a tremendous pressure from my system (OS11.2 x64) to upgrade to Thunderbird 3.0. However I do not want to upgrade before Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons are available as I absolutely need them.
So I guess I have 2 questions:
1. When can we expect x64 versions of the Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons compatible with TB3? I checked the nightly builds and they do not provide an x64 version.
2. What is the best strategy to prevent a package from being upgraded with YaST2?
Thanks,
~/jc
I am running openSuse 11.2 x64 and am using Thunderbird 3 (3.0.0-1.1.1-x86_64) and lightning (1.0pre...) and all is working perfectly. Must admit I haven't gone looking for the Google Calendar stuff, but now that you mention it, that could be handy... :-) John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:46 PM, John Bennett <hornetster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 22/12/09 18:17, JC Francois wrote:
Hi,
For a while now I have been under a tremendous pressure from my system (OS11.2 x64) to upgrade to Thunderbird 3.0. However I do not want to upgrade before Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons are available as I absolutely need them.
So I guess I have 2 questions:
1. When can we expect x64 versions of the Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons compatible with TB3? I checked the nightly builds and they do not provide an x64 version.
2. What is the best strategy to prevent a package from being upgraded with YaST2?
Thanks,
~/jc
I am running openSuse 11.2 x64 and am using Thunderbird 3 (3.0.0-1.1.1-x86_64) and lightning (1.0pre...) and all is working perfectly. Must admit I haven't gone looking for the Google Calendar stuff, but now that you mention it, that could be handy... :-) John
Can open Google Calendar as a Remote Calendar....? John. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JC Francois write:
Hi,
For a while now I have been under a tremendous pressure from my system (OS11.2 x64) to upgrade to Thunderbird 3.0. However I do not want to upgrade before Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons are available as I absolutely need them.
As a matter of fact YaST2 managed to install it twice against my will during "All Packages > Update if Newer Version is Available". The list of packages was very long and I did not notice Thunderbird 3 hidden in there.
And now I see that the Updater Applet is pushing TB3.0 as a patch.
Here's what I tried to resist the onslaught:
* Added TB to the lock list in Zypper. That seems to work as expected. However I do not use Zypper to maintain my system but YaST2.
Hi, YaST2 should respect also lock and at least warning if you want install even if lock is locked. But maybe you think kupdate applet which is separate program using packageKit, which use as backend part of YaST (libzypp). I think it is bug, because lock should be respected also by packageKit so I think you can fill bug report.
* In YaST2 I tried adding the Mozilla:Legacy repo with the highest priority and switched TB to the version of this repo (2.0.0.23.1-3). That works in the sense that YaST2 does not propose upgrades of TB anymore but unfortunately that works just as well with Firefox for which I DO want updates to the latest version
* In YaST2 I tried to set TB to "protected" (the little lock icon). Doing this prevents TB from being updated but only for the current YaST2 session. If I close and restart, the "protected" status is gone.
That is strange as this use same lock ( I think, not sure ), so it should work and be persistent. I think you also could report bug for this behavior as protect should be persistant. It looks like locks is not tested enough by users, so feel free to post bug report about this issue otherwise it is not improved ;) Josef -- Josef Reidinger YaST team maintainer of perl-Bootloader, YaST2-Repair, webyast (language,time,basesystem,ntp) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 22/12/09 09:17, JC Francois wrote:
1. When can we expect x64 versions of the Lightning and Provider for Google Calendar add-ons compatible with TB3? I checked the nightly builds and they do not provide an x64 version.
I just found an answer to my question above. There is a guy (Thomas Lauria) providing Linux x64 builds of the Lightning, calendar-timezones and gdata-provider add-ons on his blog: http://blog.thomas-lauria.de/archives/9-Mozilla-Lightning-1.0b1-for-Thunderb... This enabled me to finally move to TB3. Made my day! ~/jc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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David Houston
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JC Francois
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John Bennett
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Josef Reidinger
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Sven Burmeister
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Wolfgang Rosenauer