My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1" Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again. It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening. I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference. Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please? Many thanks for any advice. Keith
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 10:19 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
Many thanks for any advice.
Keith
Check your Autostart dir. ~/.kde/Autostart I think E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:16 am, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 10:19 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Check your Autostart dir. ~/.kde/Autostart I think
Thanks for the suggestion, Hans. Sorry, but KMix is not in the autostart folder, so that is not the problem. In fact, the folder is empty except for the directory file. Cheers Keith
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:09 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:16 am, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 10:19 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Check your Autostart dir. ~/.kde/Autostart I think
Thanks for the suggestion, Hans.
Sorry, but KMix is not in the autostart folder, so that is not the problem. In fact, the folder is empty except for the directory file.
Cheers
Keith
Have you tried taking it off the panel? Does it still come up? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 12:30 pm, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:09 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:16 am, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 10:19 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Check your Autostart dir. ~/.kde/Autostart I think
Thanks for the suggestion, Hans.
Sorry, but KMix is not in the autostart folder, so that is not the problem. In fact, the folder is empty except for the directory file.
Have you tried taking it off the panel? Does it still come up?
I have, and it still comes up. Not having had this before, I can't decide whether it is a bug in the latest downloads, or a new KDE "feature". Thanks Keith
Thanks to all for your suggestions to prevent the KMix window being on the desktop whenever I boot. I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. The same with 'enable system tray volume control'. They don't cure the problem. John, I feel that to log out and then back in, each time I boot, is a bit cumbersome. The only solution I have found is to start with an empty session, as Joe recommended. Cheers Keith
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 23:50, Keith Powell wrote:
John, I feel that to log out and then back in, each time I boot, is a bit cumbersome.
For the record, that's not what I recommended. I recommended doing it ONCE. In my experience this sets the state that KDE tries to restore each you log in. This fixed this very same problem for me. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 9:08 am, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 23:50, Keith Powell wrote:
John, I feel that to log out and then back in, each time I boot, is a bit cumbersome.
For the record, that's not what I recommended.
I recommended doing it ONCE. In my experience this sets the state that KDE tries to restore each you log in.
This fixed this very same problem for me.
John, apologies for mis-understanding your reply. I have tried as you suggested, but I am afraid that it only works occasionally for me. Sometimes the KMix window is there after a boot and sometimes it isn't. Very confusing! I have done some investigating, but not got anywhere. So I will investigate further when a have a bit of time. Cheers Keith
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 09:03, Keith Powell wrote:
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 9:08 am, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 23:50, Keith Powell wrote:
John, I feel that to log out and then back in, each time I boot, is a bit cumbersome.
For the record, that's not what I recommended.
I recommended doing it ONCE. In my experience this sets the state that KDE tries to restore each you log in.
This fixed this very same problem for me.
John, apologies for mis-understanding your reply.
I have tried as you suggested, but I am afraid that it only works occasionally for me. Sometimes the KMix window is there after a boot and sometimes it isn't. Very confusing! I have done some investigating, but not got anywhere. So I will investigate further when a have a bit of time.
I remembered I had a similar (sorta) problem a few months ago. Below worked for me, but of course YMMV: Every time I used Kalarm to start alsaplayer for me, I'd wake up and see the big kmix thing slapped on the screen...every time. It would take over all my settings I had in alsamixergui and I had to redo everything. So, I went into ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc and looked at things (I didn't really have a clue what I was doing, but...). I did find this though: startkdeRestore=true I figured, what the heck, and set it to startkdeRestore=false Then I used kalarm to test it...kmix did *not* pop up! Not sure if this will work after a restart, but it can't hurt to try it. -- "A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious but it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable for he is known and he carries his banner openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely." Cicero
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 09:03, Keith Powell wrote:
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Same here since update to KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1" on Suse 10.0 Anybody found a solution yet? plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore - background of login page is just black now, bg-image appears only after 15-20 seconds , before this image appeared almost immediately... Anybody else expieriencing this too? Daniel (btw.: sorry for incorrect threading, i dont have the original mail anymore...) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 22:49, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 09:03, Keith Powell wrote:
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Same here since update to KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1" on Suse 10.0 Anybody found a solution yet?
plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore - background of login page is just black now, bg-image appears only after 15-20 seconds , before this image appeared almost immediately...
Re the Kmix thingie... In the past I've found that occasionally a file will be left laying around in ~/.kde/share/config/session which will enforce some settings on applications as they launch. Often simply deleting these files, logging out, and logging back in again works to suppress this weird kmix problems reported here. I believe I've even seen cases where the system was trying to launch all kinds of things upon a re-boot that were not in the ~/.kde/Autostart directory, and ultimately tracked it down to the mere presence of a file in this directory. (Kmobiletools is one of these. Launch it once and it wants to rise from the dead each time you boot/log in) As for Kwallet, It is being a little inconsistent since I went to 62.1 as well. It always seems to work, but not always showing in the tray. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 23:40, John Andersen wrote:
In the past I've found that occasionally a file will be left laying around in ~/.kde/share/config/session which will enforce some settings on applications as they launch.
Often simply deleting these files, logging out, and logging back in again works to suppress this weird kmix problems reported here.
Following up on my own post..... Don't get crazy and delete everything in there. Maybe just hide the kmix one for testing. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 22:49, Daniel Bauer wrote:
plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore
This might be a setting in kwallet. Press Alt-F2 and type in /opt/kde3/bin/kwalletmanager And select Settings/Configure. There are two checkboxes there at the bottom that may cause kwallet to not show. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Thursday 14 September 2006 09:55, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 22:49, Daniel Bauer wrote:
plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore
This might be a setting in kwallet. Press Alt-F2 and type in /opt/kde3/bin/kwalletmanager And select Settings/Configure.
There are two checkboxes there at the bottom that may cause kwallet to not show.
kwalletmanager doesn't show up, no matter if I try to start it via Alt-F2 or via the menu... However I can find it in the control panel (where its called kdewallet) and the boxes are checked. It also seems that it's running, because it asks me for the password the first time I start Kmail... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
On Thursday 14 September 2006 00:06, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On Thursday 14 September 2006 09:55, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 22:49, Daniel Bauer wrote:
plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore
This might be a setting in kwallet. Press Alt-F2 and type in /opt/kde3/bin/kwalletmanager And select Settings/Configure.
There are two checkboxes there at the bottom that may cause kwallet to not show.
kwalletmanager doesn't show up, no matter if I try to start it via Alt-F2 or via the menu...
However I can find it in the control panel (where its called kdewallet) and the boxes are checked. It also seems that it's running, because it asks me for the password the first time I start Kmail...
My ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc file contains this: [Wallet] Close When Idle=false Close on Screensaver=false Default Wallet=kdewallet Enabled=true First Use=false Idle Timeout=10 Launch Manager=true Leave Manager Open=false Leave Open=true Prompt on Open=true Use One Wallet=true Maybe you can compare to see what the differences are? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Thursday 14 September 2006 10:11, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 14 September 2006 00:06, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On Thursday 14 September 2006 09:55, John Andersen wrote:
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 22:49, Daniel Bauer wrote:
plus: - kwallet icon is not shown in the "Kontrolleiste" (panel?) anymore
This might be a setting in kwallet. Press Alt-F2 and type in /opt/kde3/bin/kwalletmanager And select Settings/Configure.
There are two checkboxes there at the bottom that may cause kwallet to not show.
kwalletmanager doesn't show up, no matter if I try to start it via Alt-F2 or via the menu...
However I can find it in the control panel (where its called kdewallet) and the boxes are checked. It also seems that it's running, because it asks me for the password the first time I start Kmail...
My ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc file contains this: [Wallet] Close When Idle=false Close on Screensaver=false Default Wallet=kdewallet Enabled=true First Use=false Idle Timeout=10 Launch Manager=true Leave Manager Open=false Leave Open=true Prompt on Open=true Use One Wallet=true
Maybe you can compare to see what the differences are?
The only difference: "Prompt on Open" was "false". changed it to "true", logged out and in again (clicked away kmix...), and no change: kwalletmanager doesn't show up :-( Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
Keith Powell wrote:
Sorry, but KMix is not in the autostart folder, so that is not the problem. In fact, the folder is empty except for the directory file.
Do you start in an empty or saved session? Try setting it to start in an empty session via Personal Settings, KDE Components, Session Manager. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 12:33 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
Sorry, but KMix is not in the autostart folder, so that is not the problem. In fact, the folder is empty except for the directory file.
Do you start in an empty or saved session? Try setting it to start in an empty session via Personal Settings, KDE Components, Session Manager.
Thanks, Joe. I'm running 10,0 and starting in an empty session has cured it. For information. Wondering if, having started and saved it several times in an empty session, KDE would have remembered that as the 'last saved session', I then went back to starting in 'restore previous session'. The window came back. So I entered KMix in 'Applications to be excluded from sessions'. The window was still there. Cheers. Keith
Am Dienstag, 12. September 2006 11:19 schrieb Keith Powell:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
Many thanks for any advice.
Mine started doing that after the updates that came down on Sunday. Haven't investigated it yet. -- David Wright Wright Information Services Europa "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:46 am, David Wright wrote:
Am Dienstag, 12. September 2006 11:19 schrieb Keith Powell:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Mine started doing that after the updates that came down on Sunday. Haven't investigated it yet.
Thanks for the information, David. Pleased it's not something I have done wrong! I'll have to wait for ideas from others. Please let me know if you find anything. Cheers Keith
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 06:46, David Wright wrote:
Am Dienstag, 12. September 2006 11:19 schrieb Keith Powell:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
Many thanks for any advice.
Mine started doing that after the updates that came down on Sunday. Haven't investigated it yet. -- David Wright Wright Information Services Europa
"I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
Same thing here. -- Jeremy Baker <jab@muskokatech.ca> GnuPGP fingerprint = EE66 AC49 E008 E09A 7A2A 0195 50EF 580B EDBB 95B6
Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
I have something similar on my ThinkPad, except it's minimized to the panel. No idea how to fix it.
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
Many thanks for any advice.
Keith ======== Have you taken a look at the settings for KMix? It appears to be a bug
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 05:19, Keith Powell wrote: that it starts without asking, but who knows it may be meant as a feature. Open the KMix window, go to Settings>Configure KMix and try unchecking Enable system tray volume control. Then quit the program. It should not return on a restart then. Lee
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 22:05, BandiPat wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 05:19, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem
Yup, since the last update (I did that yesterday).
and managed to overcome it, please?
Alas, no: - closing the window and logging out/in -> [-] - quitting kmix and logging out/in -> [+] logging out/in 2nd time -> [-]
Have you taken a look at the settings for KMix? It appears to be a bug that it starts without asking, but who knows it may be meant as a feature.
Open the KMix window, go to Settings>Configure KMix and try unchecking Enable system tray volume control. Then quit the program. It should not return on a restart then.
Nah, didn't work. KMix just starts... So it seems KMix disregards the Enable-system-tray-volume-control setting? Cheers, Leen
On Friday 15 September 2006 11:32, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 22:05, BandiPat wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 05:19, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem
Yup, since the last update (I did that yesterday).
and managed to overcome it, please?
Alas, no: [...]
Had the same problem, could solve it: - kde control center -> kde components ("KDE-Komponenten") -> session administration ("Sitzungsverwaltung") : - check "start with empty session" ("Mit leerer Sitzung starten"). - then log out, log in again: KMix doesn't pop up anymore back to control center and restored previous value (here: "restore previous session"/"Vorige Sitzung wiederherstellen"). KMix-popup is gone and staid away, even after reboot (while the icon in the panel is present and usable). I still "suffer" from the long loading time of the background image behind the log-in dialog. Bg is just black and bg-image only appears after 15 to 20 secs. And I still miss the kwallet icon in the panel (but as kwallet works I don't care too much about that) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
On Friday 15 September 2006 11:47, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On Friday 15 September 2006 11:32, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 22:05, BandiPat wrote:
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 05:19, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem
Yup, since the last update (I did that yesterday).
and managed to overcome it, please?
Alas, no: [...]
Had the same problem, could solve it:
- kde control center -> kde components ("KDE-Komponenten") -> session administration ("Sitzungsverwaltung") : - check "start with empty session" ("Mit leerer Sitzung starten"). - then log out, log in again: KMix doesn't pop up anymore
Indeed. :)
back to control center and restored previous value (here: "restore previous session"/"Vorige Sitzung wiederherstellen").
KMix-popup is gone and staid away, even after reboot (while the icon in the panel is present and usable).
Nope, not here. :(
I still "suffer" from the long loading time of the background image behind the log-in dialog. Bg is just black and bg-image only appears after 15 to 20 secs.
You mean the splash-screen? I have the default for 10.1, ksplashx-suse, which gives me no problem at all (wait, checking..., nope). After I hit enter, the login/password fields disappear, after a few seconds the screen turns black for 1-2 seconds, then the splash screen comes up. Cheers, Leen
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 01:19, Keith Powell wrote:
My SUSE hard drive "died", so I have had to install it again on the new drive. I have installed all the upgrades, including KDE 3.5.4 "release 62.1"
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
It's not a big nuisance, but I wonder if there is a way of stopping it happening.
I have tried having the 'dock into panel' selected and not selected. No difference.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to overcome it, please?
Many thanks for any advice.
Keith
After logging in, kill off those applications you don't want and then log out. Don' shut down, just select End Current Session. Then you can log in again. Kde tries to restart the session it had at last shutdown. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 21:34 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
After logging in, kill off those applications you don't want and then log out. Don' shut down, just select End Current Session. Then you can log in again.
Kde tries to restart the session it had at last shutdown.
This is not a solution you would have to do this _every_ time you log out. The problem is that since a recent update Kmix starts full size when it should start docked in the panel. -- Dave Cotton <dcotton@linuxautrement.com>
On Tuesday, 12. September 2006 11:19, Keith Powell wrote:
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Instead of enlarging this thread even more please contribute to/watch the relevant bug report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204751 Bye, Steve
On Friday 15 September 2006 11:51, Stephan Binner wrote:
On Tuesday, 12. September 2006 11:19, Keith Powell wrote:
Now, when I boot, the KMix mixer window is always on the desktop and I have to exit KMix each time. Then, next boot, it's back again.
Instead of enlarging this thread even more please contribute to/watch the relevant bug report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204751
KMix starts twice: exactly what I thought! :) Thanks for telling. (I need to have https://bugzilla.novell.com/ available somewhere... done) Cheers, Leen
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