Mario Jr wrote:

How do I force SuSE Linux to install the x86_64 packages?

You don't need to, it will detect your hardware.

I 've done a local mirror of http://mirrors.uol.com.br/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/ and installed SuSE by local network FTP on a HP ML 150 server (DUAL XEON 3.0Ghz FSB800Mhz) to avoid the message that happens when I try to install by the i386 cds I have ( something about installing 32 bit software in a 64 bit hardware).

It recognizes it is 64 bit.

The XEON FSB 800Mhz is supposed to be 64 bits and use the x86_64 packages, doesn't it? But Why SuSE install the i586 packages instead ?

It is not compatible with x86_64 AFAIK. It is a ia64 architecture. x86_64 is for the AMD64 line (Opteron, amd64, amd64 FX).

Another question : does anybody know if I'll have a perfomance gain using this packages or it will not be important for a qmail server? Performance gain over what? -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871

Em Sex 01 Abr 2005 18:35, Joe Morris (NTM) escreveu:

Mario Jr wrote:

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How do I force SuSE Linux to install the x86_64 packages?

You don't need to, it will detect your hardware.

But this IS the problem : suse only installed the i586 packages not the x86_64 ones...

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I 've done a local mirror of http://mirrors.uol.com.br/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/ and installed SuSE by local network FTP on a HP ML 150 server (DUAL XEON 3.0Ghz FSB800Mhz) to avoid the message that happens when I try to install by the i386 cds I have ( something about installing 32 bit software in a 64 bit hardware).

It recognizes it is 64 bit.

By CD-Install it recognizes and gives the message but if I use FTP-install it don't give the message but install only the i586 packages... THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

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The XEON FSB 800Mhz is supposed to be 64 bits and use the x86_64 packages, doesn't it? But Why SuSE install the i586 packages instead ?

It is not compatible with x86_64 AFAIK. It is a ia64 architecture. x86_64 is for the AMD64 line (Opteron, amd64, amd64 FX).

I don't think so. The XEON FSB 800Mhz is the new em64t architecture not the ia64. The em64t architecture is supposed to be compatible with amd64 line. http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm?iid=ibe_xeon+procspecs_xeon&

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Another question : does anybody know if I'll have a perfomance gain using this packages or it will not be important for a qmail server?

Performance gain over what?

I mean using 64 bit software over 32 bit software. -- Mario Junior ----------------- ISP Network Admin

Em Sex 01 Abr 2005 18:35, Joe Morris (NTM) escreveu:

Mario Jr wrote:

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How do I force SuSE Linux to install the x86_64 packages?

You don't need to, it will detect your hardware.

But this IS the problem : suse only installed the i586 packages not the x86_64 ones...

...

I 've done a local mirror of http://mirrors.uol.com.br/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/ and installed SuSE by local network FTP on a HP ML 150 server (DUAL XEON 3.0Ghz FSB800Mhz) to avoid the message that happens when I try to install by the i386 cds I have ( something about installing 32 bit software in a 64 bit hardware).

It recognizes it is 64 bit.

By CD-Install it recognizes and gives the message but if I use FTP-install it don't give the message but install only the i586 packages... THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

...

The XEON FSB 800Mhz is supposed to be 64 bits and use the x86_64 packages, doesn't it? But Why SuSE install the i586 packages instead ?

It is not compatible with x86_64 AFAIK. It is a ia64 architecture. x86_64 is for the AMD64 line (Opteron, amd64, amd64 FX).

I don't think so. The XEON FSB 800Mhz is the new em64t architecture not the ia64. The em64t architecture is supposed to be compatible with amd64 line. http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm?iid=ibe_xeon+procspec... _xeon&

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Another question : does anybody know if I'll have a perfomance gain using this packages or it will not be important for a qmail server?

Performance gain over what?

I mean using 64 bit software over 32 bit software. -- Mario Junior ----------------- ISP Network Admin

Em Dom 03 Abr 2005 01:28, John Scott escreveu:

On Apr 1, 2005 4:35 PM, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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I 've done a local mirror of http://mirrors.uol.com.br/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/ and installed SuSE by local network FTP on a HP ML 150 server (DUAL XEON 3.0Ghz FSB800Mhz) to avoid the message that happens when I try to install by the i386 cds I have ( something about installing 32 bit software in a 64 bit hardware).

It recognizes it is 64 bit.

...

The XEON FSB 800Mhz is supposed to be 64 bits and use the x86_64 packages, doesn't it? But Why SuSE install the i586 packages instead ?

That being said, are these the EM64T variety of Xeon? The HP site specs them as just Xeons. Note: non 64-bit Xeons are still available. If they aren't the EM64T then SuSE is doing the right thing by installing the i586 packages.

John, if you see my post i wrote that "SuSE 9.2 - CD Install" complains that I'm going to use 32-bit software in a 64-bit machine so i am sure IT IS EM64T. Just two more reasons : 1) Intel site says that all XEON FSB 800Mhz are EM64T. 2) I've installed SLES9 x86_64 and it worked but i hated it. It has the same broken 2.6.x kernel that doesn't recognize my adaptec smartraid V controller (dpt_i2o). So why the hell "SuSE 9.2 - FTP install" doesn't install the x86_64 packages? I definitely think that SUSE x86_64 FTP INSTALL IS BROKEN. It must be a bug, what should I do?

John

-- Mario Junior ----------------- ISP Network Admin

Em Qua 06 Abr 2005 21:51, John Scott escreveu:

I installed 9.2 using the ftp (rather a http install) version for x86_64 onto my AMD64 box, so I know that it does work. And since the EM64T is basically a clone of the AMD64, it should work for you. Have you tried to download the boot iso file again and reburn it? This is the iso file I used:

http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/x86_64/9.2/boot/boot.iso

Gotcha! this morning i've installed it using the Suse-9.2-PATCHCD.iso in ftp.suse.com/people and it let you choose the arch you want, very nice.

Also, maybe the mirror you tried to install from was corrupt. Try a different mirror. I've installed from ftp.gwdg.de and mirror.mcs.anl.gov and never had any problems. I have had problems with a mirror in California (couldn't connect).

John

-- Mario Junior ----------------- ISP Network Admin