I upgraded to 8.1 last night. Glitches: I'm frustrated about file managers. I am neither a GNOME nor KDE user. My old familiar, TkDesk, the most comfy, useful day-to-day.program I've ever had for Linux, errors out because of missing "libitc.13.3.so" That's okay, I guess. The MIME types were wired in and outdated, and it's not being maintained anymore. One of these days I'll dive in and correct the problems, and update it to GTK. I tried Nautilus; it's okay if a person doesn't mind having all of GNOME load with it, destroying xphoon and plopping a bunch of useless icons all over. Does anyone know how to fix this? GMC and gentoo are out - too limited. Konqueror? No thanks. not GNOME compatible. Does anyone have any ideas about where to go from here?
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:56:59 -0700
Tim Hanson
I upgraded to 8.1 last night. Glitches:
I'm frustrated about file managers. I am neither a GNOME nor KDE user. My old
Konqueror? No thanks. not GNOME compatible.
Does anyone have any ideas about where to go from here?
Once you get used to midnight commander "mc", you will never need to use another. Also it works fine, from release to release, never changes much, plus you can use it from a text-mode console. mc is the number one app to learn, as far as I'm concerned. :-) -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
Circa Sun. Oct. 13, 2002 at 15:11:11 -0400 , a lone cry was heard from
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Once you get used to midnight commander "mc", you will never need to use another. Also it works fine, from release to release, never changes much, plus you can use it from a text-mode console.
I agree mc is a fine file manager. I use it is console mode and Tkdesk in X. Too bad they have to ruin the Gnome version, sigh... Charles -- "sic transit discus mundi" (From the System Administrator's Guide, by Lars Wirzenius)
Circa Sun. Oct. 13, 2002 at 11:56:59 -0700 , a lone cry was heard from
Tim Hanson
I'm frustrated about file managers. I am neither a GNOME nor KDE user. My old familiar, TkDesk, the most comfy, useful day-to-day.program I've ever had for Linux,
Yes, I tried all of them, but I always run back to Tkdesk. The default setup is rather ugly , but once you retheme it , it looks fine.
errors out because of missing "libitc.13.3.so"
Just download the source from http://tkdesk.sourceforge.net/index.html and compile it yourself to link it to whatever TCL/TK, ITCL, and BLT you have on your system. Also don't forget to download all the patches and applied it. Hint: exit-save-dd.diff needs to be apply before compiling. The rest should be applied afterwards in your Tkdesk lib directory.
That's okay, I guess. The MIME types were wired in and outdated, and it's not being maintained anymore.
Hum. Tkdesk doesn't use MIME types. Program associations are defined in the ~/.tkdesk/Popups file. All configuration files can be access through Tkdesk=>Configure menu or just through any text editor. Once you learn the syntax, you can do things with it that you can't do with the current crop of file managers because of its rich set of shortcuts (vid. User Guide, section 9.3), the Tkdesk API (section 9.2) and the Tkdesk server (section 8).
and it's not being maintained anymore.
This I am not too sure about, most users are happy with the way it is, although a NeXT style shelf, icon view, vfs, and xdnd support will be welcomed. There is a roadmap though since J. Chris Coppick took over, but there is no movement. One of these days I'll dive in and correct the problems, and update it to GTK. I am not too sure whether porting to gtk is such a good idea. Part of the charm of Tkdesk is it's tight integration with TCL/TK, thus it is really easy to extend locally through TCL/TK and any external program you can think of.
I tried Nautilus; it's okay if a person doesn't mind having all of GNOME load with it, destroying xphoon and plopping a bunch of useless icons all over. Does anyone know how to fix this?
There is a configuration option in Nautilus to do that. Just set it to not taking over your desktop.
Does anyone have any ideas about where to go from here?
My suggestion is to stick with Tkdesk. If you need any help with compiling and setting it up, please feel free to email me. Charles -- "Linux poses a real challenge for those with a taste for late-night hacking (and/or conversations with God)." (By Matt Welsh)
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Tim Hanson wrote:
I upgraded to 8.1 last night. Glitches:
I'm frustrated about file managers. I am neither a GNOME nor KDE user. My old familiar, TkDesk, the most comfy, useful day-to-day.program I've ever had for Linux, errors out because of missing "libitc.13.3.so" That's okay, I guess. The MIME types were wired in and outdated, and it's not being maintained anymore. One of these days I'll dive in and correct the problems, and update it to GTK.
I tried Nautilus; it's okay if a person doesn't mind having all of GNOME load with it, destroying xphoon and plopping a bunch of useless icons all over. Does anyone know how to fix this?
GMC and gentoo are out - too limited.
Konqueror? No thanks. not GNOME compatible.
Does anyone have any ideas about where to go from here?
You might want to try the ROX Filer, which is fast and provides all of the normal stuff that you could want with a file manager. Just do a Google search for it, although I think you can find it at rox.sourceforge.net. My personal favorite is xftree, which is part of the XFce desktop. It works great, is very fast, and easily configured. Of course, Midnight Commander is just about the best. It is stable, fast, and can be used from the console. Kevin -- "I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't." (By Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center)
Tim Hanson wrote:
I upgraded to 8.1 last night. Glitches:
I'm frustrated about file managers. I am neither a GNOME nor KDE user. My old familiar, TkDesk, the most comfy, useful day-to-day.program I've ever had for Linux, errors out because of missing "libitc.13.3.so"
I think that's "libitcl3.3.so" and it's in itcl.rpm. However, it looks like there's a problem with the way it's compiled. Firstly, the libs are put in /usr/lib/itcl3.3/ and /usr/lib/itk3.3/ and the dynamic linker can't find them there. Solve by symlinking both libs to /usr/lib and running ldconfig Secondly, even that isn't working. It looks like libitcl is somehow miscompiled, because itcl_class doesn't appear in the lib at all. Anders
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