[opensuse] Hard lockups new kernel
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Hi . installed the new updated kernel yesterday the update version 2.6.22.19-0.1-default since then i have so far had 6 hard lockups System AMD 64 3500 2Gb Ram Nvidia FX5500@256Mb drives all look ok NO problem on the previous kernel . anyone else getting the same Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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peter nikolic wrote:
Hi .
installed the new updated kernel yesterday the update version 2.6.22.19-0.1-default since then i have so far had 6 hard lockups
System AMD 64 3500 2Gb Ram Nvidia FX5500@256Mb
drives all look ok
NO problem on the previous kernel .
anyone else getting the same
Pete .
Pete, I have have updated (7) 10.3 boxes to 2.6.22.19, (3) of them with nVidia cards (FX5700 Ultra, two 8600GTs), and, knock-on-wood, no problems as of yet. Two things come to mind. First, it should have happened automatically, but there nVidia driver kernel module may not have updated -- if you are not using the open source "nv" driver. Second (for reasons unknown), there may have been a problem with the kernel install. Neither seem likely, but absent any other changes, seem like the most logical places to start. First look at the logs and see if anything jumps out at you. Look back in time just before the lockup. The easiest way to do this is look for the beginning of the boot process. The first line will be syslog-ng starting. Similar to: Oct 22 21:52:07 ripper syslog-ng[2383]: syslog-ng version 1.6.12 starting Then just look back in time 20 lines or so and see if anything stands out. Next, I would reinstall the nvidia driver is you are using it. Just use the one-click install at: http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA Finally, I would reinstall the kernel, kernel-source and kernel-syms. The way I would do it is to go to: http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/rpm/ Choose the right architecture for you machine and download the full 2.6.22.19 kernel, kernel-source and kernel-syms to a temporary directory on your machine. (DO NOT JUST DOWNLOAD THE 2.6.22.18-2.6.22.19 PATCH FILES). Then, as root (not sudo, but actually root) install the new kernel with: rpm -Uvh --force kernel*.rpm Then reboot and run some more and see if it is fixed. If not, then repost and we will work some more. This is an overview of how I would approach trouble shooting the problem. The logs are the first place to start. Others may have other ideas for you before you reinstall all the software, but if this didn't start until the kernel update, then this is how I would start. Good luck. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Thursday 23 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter nikolic wrote:
Pete,
Finally, I would reinstall the kernel, kernel-source and kernel-syms. The way I would do it is to go to:
pruned Hi David Thats what i decieded to do i d/loaded the complete kernel plus source , kernel syms ect ect and installed them seems ok now . I am using the "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.09-pkg2.run" method for the Nvidia driver never had much luck with the suse automated way and always end up installing by hand which i have onoly had fail once and even that was relativly easy to fix (bad paths) Any how machine seems stable again now , If only they were all like the firewall machine here running suse 10.0 the only time it failed was when the Hdd bearings went west big time .. Cheers Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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peter nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 23 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter nikolic wrote:
Pete,
Finally, I would reinstall the kernel, kernel-source and kernel-syms. The way I would do it is to go to:
pruned
Hi David
Thats what i decieded to do i d/loaded the complete kernel plus source , kernel syms ect ect and installed them seems ok now .
I am using the "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.09-pkg2.run" method for the Nvidia driver never had much luck with the suse automated way and always end up installing by hand which i have onoly had fail once and even that was relativly easy to fix (bad paths)
Any how machine seems stable again now , If only they were all like the firewall machine here running suse 10.0 the only time it failed was when the Hdd bearings went west big time ..
Cheers
Pete .
Pete, Glad to here you have it running stable again. If not, my next guess for you would have been to download MCElog and look for hidden hardware errors uncovered by the new kernel code... (you didn't want to go there...) I can't kill my old machines no matter how I try. Like the old AMD k6-2/450 with 2 20G IBM deskstar drives mentioned in my "[opensuse] Disk Performance - Then & Now.." post. It is still running like a champ after ????? years. I know I had the box in 1999, maybe earlier, same drives -- knock-on-wood... If I get adventurous, I still have my old 386/33 (with math co-processor) and 16M of 70ns RAM somewhere in the attic that I know still works like a champ ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Friday 24 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 23 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
Pete,
Glad to here you have it running stable again. If not, my next guess for you would have been to download MCElog and look for hidden hardware errors uncovered by the new kernel code... (you didn't want to go there...)
I can't kill my old machines no matter how I try. Like the old AMD k6-2/450 with 2 20G IBM deskstar drives mentioned in my "[opensuse] Disk Performance - Then & Now.." post. It is still running like a champ after ????? years. I know I had the box in 1999, maybe earlier, same drives -- knock-on-wood...
If I get adventurous, I still have my old 386/33 (with math co-processor) and 16M of 70ns RAM somewhere in the attic that I know still works like a champ ;-)
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Hi .. well it all seems stable again now . i have found over the years that when we get kernel updates that do not do a complete update ie sources syms ect ect i get problems i do wish that the updater would check to see what you have installed and update the whole shooting match when it is there not just the smal patches that cause these problems Oh well main thing is it's is cooking again with seti home and climateprediction running . I did try to update the firewall machine to 10.3 but could not get it to play the game so put the old 10.0 drive back in and welded the case screws in .. :-) .. Cheers pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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peter nikolic wrote:
On Friday 24 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 23 October 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
Pete,
Glad to here you have it running stable again. If not, my next guess for you would have been to download MCElog and look for hidden hardware errors uncovered by the new kernel code... (you didn't want to go there...)
I can't kill my old machines no matter how I try. Like the old AMD k6-2/450 with 2 20G IBM deskstar drives mentioned in my "[opensuse] Disk Performance - Then & Now.." post. It is still running like a champ after ????? years. I know I had the box in 1999, maybe earlier, same drives -- knock-on-wood...
If I get adventurous, I still have my old 386/33 (with math co-processor) and 16M of 70ns RAM somewhere in the attic that I know still works like a champ ;-)
Hi ..
well it all seems stable again now . i have found over the years that when we get kernel updates that do not do a complete update ie sources syms ect ect i get problems i do wish that the updater would check to see what you have installed and update the whole shooting match when it is there not just the smal patches that cause these problems
Oh well main thing is it's is cooking again with seti home and climateprediction running .
I did try to update the firewall machine to 10.3 but could not get it to play the game so put the old 10.0 drive back in and welded the case screws in .. :-) ..
Cheers pete .
I have a new policy, Since drives are as cheap as they are now, I just keep the old drives in case I need to go back to the prior OS and install on fresh drives. (Example: Seagate ST3500630AS 500G for $48, see: http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=10080) If after 6 months or so, If I have confirmed I won't need the old OS again, I cycle the drive back into the mix. No headaches that way. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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