Hello, On the very last (since some time) Tumbleweed, the very usefull "Kim" menu management do not work anymore (no more right clic menu entries) it's from: https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=kim&project=home%3Abruno_friedmann before disturbing Bruno, do you have the same problem, or is my install at fault? for people that don't know it, installing that package should add to the right clic menu of any image file options to change size, compress and some other useful actions thanks jdd -- https://dodin.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <8a28e201-eb4a-4d7d-b8bc-9b711b7d1852@dodin.org> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:51:19 +0200 [jdd] == "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> has written: jdd> Hello, jdd> On the very last (since some time) Tumbleweed, the very usefull jdd> "Kim" menu management do not work anymore (no more right clic jdd> menu entries) jdd> it's from: jdd> https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=kim&project=home%3Abruno_friedmann jdd> before disturbing Bruno, do you have the same problem, or is my jdd> install at fault? jdd> for people that don't know it, installing that package should jdd> add to the right clic menu of any image file options to change jdd> size, compress and some other useful actions I looked, but it's been removed now. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past" -- Rupert Wingfield-Hayes (BBC) --
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <8734ltd9z4.wl-nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 11:19:43 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> has written: [...] jdd> it's from: jdd> https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=kim&project=home%3Abruno_friedmann jdd> before disturbing Bruno, do you have the same problem, or is my jdd> install at fault? jdd> for people that don't know it, installing that package should jdd> add to the right clic menu of any image file options to change jdd> size, compress and some other useful actions MN> I looked, but it's been removed now. I was curious about the words of recommendation from jdd, so I looked it up. https://store.kde.org/p/1126887/ version 0.9.5 (KDE 4.x) updated 16 years ago added 21 years ago Too old! (^^) Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices ― and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Le 21/09/2024 à 06:07, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
I was curious about the words of recommendation from jdd, so I looked it up.
https://store.kde.org/p/1126887/
version 0.9.5 (KDE 4.x) updated 16 years ago added 21 years ago
Too old! (^^)
notice it's not a binary, only a menu structure jdd -- https://dodin.org
On 9/20/24 11:07 PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Too old! (^^)
Not old enough, Unless you lived through 11.0 with the release (cough - not quite) of kde 4.0.4a as the default desktop -- you would have been left wishing for something even older... :p p.s. it's still fantastic today! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <82bf2904-774e-40dd-a694-0664557a8548@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 01:31:09 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@gmail.com> has written: DCR> On 9/20/24 11:07 PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote: MN> > Too old! (^^) DCR> Not old enough, DCR> Unless you lived through 11.0 with the release (cough - not DCR> quite) of kde 4.0.4a as the default desktop -- you would have DCR> been left wishing for something even older... :p DCR> p.s. it's still fantastic today! ? It wasn't where jdd showed it, though? I don't understand... (_ _? Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
On 9/21/24 2:39 AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
DCR> Not old enough,
DCR> Unless you lived through 11.0 with the release (cough - not DCR> quite) of kde 4.0.4a as the default desktop -- you would have DCR> been left wishing for something even older... :p
DCR> p.s. it's still fantastic today!
?
It wasn't where jdd showed it, though?
I don't understand... (_ _?
It was KDE3 :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <c811ebb4-db09-4943-a258-bfb7a255eb7c@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:47:51 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@gmail.com> has written: DCR> On 9/21/24 2:39 AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote: DCR> > > Not old enough, DCR> > > Unless you lived through 11.0 with the release (cough - not DCR> > > quite) of kde 4.0.4a as the default desktop -- you would have DCR> > > been left wishing for something even older... :p DCR> > > p.s. it's still fantastic today! MN> > ? MN> > It wasn't where jdd showed it, though? MN> > I don't understand... (_ _? DCR> It was KDE3 :) Thanks. I found it by using the term “not binary” in jdd, I can't use it, though. But I'm curious about the fact that it's a front-end for ImageMagick. Please tell me the package name in Tumbleweed. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
Le 21/09/2024 à 10:21, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
Please tell me the package name in Tumbleweed.
kim-0.9.5-3.34.noarch.rpm jdd -- https://dodin.org
Le 21/09/2024 à 09:39, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
It wasn't where jdd showed it, though?
Bug 1230878 has been successfully created it's most probably some detail that lacks in last Tumbleweed. The scripts are present in /usr/bin, but no menu is created in Dolphin jdd -- https://dodin.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <bb581fba-70d0-4b41-9d0b-cc14384ea257@dodin.org> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:00:02 +0200 [jdd] == "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> has written: jdd> Le 21/09/2024 à 09:39, Masaru Nomiya a écrit : MN> > It wasn't where jdd showed it, though? jdd> Bug 1230878 has been successfully created jdd> it's most probably some detail that lacks in last Tumbleweed. jdd> The scripts are present in /usr/bin, but no menu is created in jdd> Dolphin Now I understand. I'm a nautilus user, so I understand that the equivalent of that image conversion plugin is kim. I was under the mistaken impression that it could convert image formats. Anyway, thanks. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
Le 21/09/2024 à 10:58, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
I was under the mistaken impression that it could convert image formats.
it's an imagemagick front end, so can do all what imagemagick can do :-) but I understand it's no more maintained and have no clue of how I could do it. I will look how to change dolphin menu contents by hand :-( thanks jdd -- https://dodin.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <48526d43-cc95-45de-b383-62f61ea85452@dodin.org> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 11:14:08 +0200 [jdd] == "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> has written: jdd> Le 21/09/2024 à 10:58, Masaru Nomiya a écrit : MN> > I was under the mistaken impression that it could convert image MN> > formats. jdd> it's an imagemagick front end, so can do all what imagemagick jdd> can do :-) Hmm... that sounds appealing. jdd> but I understand it's no more maintained and have no clue of how jdd> I could do it. jdd> I will look how to change dolphin menu contents by hand :-( I asked Google, again. It showed home:/frispete:/Tumbleweed, and I got it (kim-0.9.5-6.7.noarch.rpm). Then I compared it with kim-0.9.5-3.34.noarch.rpm which you showed. The location of the menu files is different. In the case of bruno, /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus In the case of frispete, there is a symbolic link from /usr/share/kde4/Services/ServiceMenus/ I think frispete is more convincing, so why not try that? https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/frispete:/KDE4/openSUSE_Tum... Best Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past" -- Rupert Wingfield-Hayes (BBC) --
Le 21/09/2024 à 12:28, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
I think frispete is more convincing, so why not try that?
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/frispete:/KDE4/openSUSE_Tum...
thanks did you try it?image/jpeg here it don't works either :-( still no menu in dolphin (jpg) sorry jdd -- https://dodin.org
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Hi Jdd, jdd> did you try it?image/jpeg jdd> here it don't works either :-( jdd> still no menu in dolphin (jpg) For Plasma6, you need to symlink all the kim desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus. Charles -- The game, anoraks.2.0.0.tgz, will be available from sunsite until somebody responsible notices it and deletes it, and shortly from ftp.mee.tcd.ie/pub/Brian, though they don't know that yet. -- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie
Le 21/09/2024 à 23:26, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :
For Plasma6, you need to symlink all the kim desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus.
no better :-( the symlink don't works, even coping the entire file don't works either (no menu entry appear in right clic dolphin jdd -- https://dodin.org
Le 22/09/2024 à 11:54, jdd@dodin.org a écrit :
Le 21/09/2024 à 23:26, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :
For Plasma6, you need to symlink all the kim desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus.
no better :-(
the symlink don't works, even coping the entire file don't works either (no menu entry appear in right clic dolphin
jdd
iy's probably something there that don't works: [Desktop Entry] Type=Service ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin,image/* Actions=RsizeCustom;Rsize1920;Rsize1600;Rsize1400;Rsize1280;Rsize1024;Rsize800;Rsize600;Rsize300;_SEPARATOR_;Rcprs75;Rcprs80;Rcprs90;RcprsCustom;_SEPARATOR_;WebThumb75120;WebExp75640;WebExp75800;WebExp751024; Encoding=UTF-8 X-KDE-Submenu=Kim - Compress and Resize X-KDE-Submenu[fr]=Kim - Compresser et redimensionner X-KDE-Submenu[de]=Kim: Bildgröße ändern X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel thanks jdd -- https://dodin.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <4d36780c-22bf-4f5a-a5bc-86048c382a2b@dodin.org> Date & Time: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:05:44 +0200 [jdd] == "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> has written: [...] jdd> iy's probably something there that don't works: [...] How about this? 1. $ rpm2cpio kim-0.9.5-6.7.noarch.rpm | cpio -id 2. $ cd kim 3. $ sudo ./install.sh Best Regards & Good night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "As Google fights for positioning in a new AI boom and an era where some consumers are turning to TikTok or ChatGPT instead of Google Search, some employees now worry product development could become dangerously hasty. The restructuring of RESIN has increased those concerns, the sources say." -- Google Splits Up a Key AI Ethics Watchdog --
Le 22/09/2024 à 12:25, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
How about this?
1.
$ rpm2cpio kim-0.9.5-6.7.noarch.rpm | cpio -id
rpm2cpio kim-0.9.5-6.7.noarch.rpm | cpio -id 213 blocs
2.
$ cd kim
no such directory
3.
$ sudo ./install.sh
no install.sh in the rpm :-( my basic problem is that nothing is added to the dolphin menu. The .desktop files don't seems to have any effect may be I just have to find where are stored right clic menus for dolphin jdd -- https://dodin.org
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Hi Jdd, jdd> no better :-( jdd> the symlink don't works, even coping the entire file don't works either jdd> (no menu entry appear in right clic dolphin Just to be clear, you symlinked ,---- | kim_compressandresize.desktop | kim_convertandrotate.desktop | kim_publication.desktop `---- and it didn't work for you. This is really strange, I see the 3 submenus ,---- | Kim - Compress and Resize | Kim - Convert and Rotate | Kim - Treatment and publication `---- as soon as I did the symlinks to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus Which Dolphin and KDE frameworks are you using? The versions that I used for testing are ,---- | Dolphin: Version 24.08.1 | KDE Frameworks: Version 6.6.0 `---- Did you try restarting Dolphin? Charles --
I thing you're missing the capability of Makefiles.
It takes several _hours_ to do `make' a second time on my machine with the latest glibc sources (and no files are recompiled a second time). I think I'll remove `build' after changing one file if I want to recompile it. -- Juan Cespedes <cespedes@debian.org>
Le 22/09/2024 à 15:53, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Hi Jdd,
jdd> no better :-(
jdd> the symlink don't works, even coping the entire file don't works either jdd> (no menu entry appear in right clic dolphin
Just to be clear, you symlinked
,---- | kim_compressandresize.desktop | kim_convertandrotate.desktop | kim_publication.desktop `----
and it didn't work for you. This is really strange, I see the 3 submenus
,---- | Kim - Compress and Resize | Kim - Convert and Rotate | Kim - Treatment and publication `----
as soon as I did the symlinks to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus
I don't :-(
Which Dolphin and KDE frameworks are you using? The versions that I used for testing are
,---- | Dolphin: Version 24.08.1
same
| KDE Frameworks: Version 6.6.0
don't know how to find this :-(
`----
Did you try restarting Dolphin?
even rebooted... sorry jdd -- https://dodin.org
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> writes:
Hi Jdd, jdd> I don't :-( >> Which Dolphin and KDE frameworks are you using? The versions that I used >> for testing are ,---- | Dolphin: Version 24.08.1 jdd> same >> | KDE Frameworks: Version 6.6.0 jdd> don't know how to find this :-( In Dolphin goto "Help" -> "About Dolphin" and click on the Components tab. Charles -- snafu = Situation Normal All F%$*ed up
Le 22/09/2024 à 22:56, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> writes:
>> | KDE Frameworks: Version 6.6.0
jdd> don't know how to find this :-(
In Dolphin goto "Help" -> "About Dolphin" and click on the Components tab.
thanks. same as you (6.6.0) jdd -- https://dodin.org
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KIM (Kde Image Management) Message-ID : <8ef09410-2548-4002-8fb7-3abfdc2a230f@dodin.org> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:42:27 +0200 [jdd] == "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> has written: jdd> Le 21/09/2024 à 12:28, Masaru Nomiya a écrit : MN> > I think frispete is more convincing, so why not try that? MN> > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/frispete:/KDE4/openSUSE_Tum... jdd> thanks jdd> did you try it?image/jpeg I'd like to use it if I can, but I'm hesitating because it seems like I'd have to create a KDE4 environment. I'm an enlightenment user. jdd> here it don't works either :-( jdd> still no menu in dolphin (jpg) Didn't Charles' advice solve it? # I've seen Charles' X-Face a few times, but I think it was probably # Emacs-related ML...... Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices — and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Le 21/09/2024 à 12:28, Masaru Nomiya a écrit :
The location of the menu files is different.
In the case of bruno,
/usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus
linking *this* in /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus kim_compressandresize.desktop kim_convertandrotate.desktop kim_publication.desktop mediainfo-gui.desktop to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus makes kim utilities to show in context menu and at least partially works. I say "partially" because a notice on the bug report say some may not work and I only test the resize and web options (that worked) thanks all! jdd -- https://dodin.org
Le 23/09/2024 à 09:34, jdd@dodin.org a écrit : (...) added to the bugreport https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1230878 jdd -- https://dodin.org
"jdd" == jdd@dodin org <jdd@dodin.org> writes: Hi Jdd,
jdd> linking *this* in /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus jdd> kim_compressandresize.desktop kim_convertandrotate.desktop jdd> kim_publication.desktop mediainfo-gui.desktop jdd> to /usr/share/kio/servicemenus Strange, in the package that I am using, the kim files in /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus are just symlinks from /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus. So why symlinking them from /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ServiceMenus works for you, where as symlinking them from /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus didn't, is beyond me. jdd> makes kim utilities to show in context menu and at least partially jdd> works. I say "partially" because a notice on the bug report say some jdd> may not work and I only test the resize and web options (that worked) qdbus can be found in the "libqt4" package. I have libqt4-4.8.7-1699.458.pm.35.x86_64 from Packman. However, there is a qdbus6 in qt6-tools-qdbus. Looking at the command line syntax it should be as easy as changing "qdbus" to "qdbus6" and "--address" to "--bus". ,----[ Output of qdbus --help ] | Usage: qdbus [--system | --address ADDRESS] [--literal] [servicename] [path] [method] [args] | | servicename the service to connect to (e.g., org.freedesktop.DBus) | path the path to the object (e.g., /) | method the method to call, with or without the interface | args arguments to pass to the call | With 0 arguments, qdbus will list the services available on the bus | With just the servicename, qdbus will list the object paths available on the service | With service name and object path, qdbus will list the methods, signals and properties available on the object | | Options: | --system connect to the system bus | --address ADDRESS connect to the given bus | --literal print replies literally `---- ,----[ Output of qdbus6 --help ] | Usage: qdbus [--system] [--bus busaddress] [--literal] [servicename] [path] [method] [args] | | servicename the service to connect to (e.g., org.freedesktop.DBus) | path the path to the object (e.g., /) | method the method to call, with or without the interface | args arguments to pass to the call | With 0 arguments, qdbus will list the services available on the bus | With just the servicename, qdbus will list the object paths available on the service | With service name and object path, qdbus will list the methods, signals and properties available on the object | | | Options: | --system connect to the system bus | --bus busaddress connect to a custom bus | --literal print replies literally `---- Anywhere, I now know why it works a lot better for me than you, since I use Krusader. I still have a minimal install of Plasma5 and several self-compiled Plasma5 programs (for their Kpart) to make Krusader work fully. Krusader was still a Plasma5 application until today- I just receive a message that it has been ported to Plasma6. Charles -- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". -- Linus Torvalds
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