[opensuse] Can use the incoming mailserver but not the outgoing mailserver.

Dear my friends.... I use OpenSuSE 11.1, KMail and DoveCot version: " sussy:/etc/ssl/certs # dovecot --version 1.1.7 ". This is the configuration of my DoveCot: " sussy:/etc/ssl/certs # dovecot -n # 1.1.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 2.6.27.29-0.1-default i686 openSUSE 11.1 (i586) base_dir: /var/run/dovecot/ log_path: /var/log/dovecot.log protocols: imap imaps pop3 listen(default): * listen(imap): * listen(pop3): *:110 ssl_disable: yes disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /var/run/dovecot//login login_executable(default): /usr/lib/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/lib/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/lib/dovecot/pop3-login login_greeting: Dovecot of MyGoogle.Com ready. mail_executable(default): /usr/lib/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/lib/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/lib/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/pop3 auth default: debug_passwords: yes passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd ". I have created local linux user account on my Postfix+DoveCot server. I also can access the content of my mailbox from my KMail. I am so happy but once I try to send email (testing the smtp) than I realize that I can't send an email from my email client (KMail). I use this setting on my email client: 1. 'incoming mailserver' == 'outgoing mailserver' == 'mail.mygoogle.com' (pseudonome). Also username and password are all the same between incoming/outgoing mailserver, namely the local userlogin of LINUX. As the username, I put 'ricky' (but not 'ricky@mygoogle.com'). 2. smtp authentication: No encryption and plaintext. The error message on my KMail is: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages? " and also: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". I'm stucked again. Please help me. Tell me where my mistake. Thank you very much in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
2. smtp authentication: No encryption and plaintext.
Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different
Kmail has a button that says "Check what the server provides". Click it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:33 -0700 John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
2. smtp authentication: No encryption and plaintext.
Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different
Kmail has a button that says "Check what the server provides".
Click it.
==== Hi John, Then come this error message: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support TLS. Disable TLS, if you want to connect without encryption. The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". Because it automatically chosed the TLS. If I choese 'none' encryption with 'no smtp authentication', the error message will be: " Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:49:03 Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: [...]
The error message on my KMail is: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages? "
Thank you very much in advance. [...]
Your SMTP server does not support the authentication method you're using. Try turning SMTP authentication off altogether in Kmail. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:02:37 +0930 Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:49:03 Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: [...]
The error message on my KMail is: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages? "
Thank you very much in advance. [...]
Your SMTP server does not support the authentication method you're using. Try turning SMTP authentication off altogether in Kmail.
=== RB>Then, this is the error message: " Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". It also the same everytime I sent to any email address. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
"Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com
I think that is trying to tell you that you are not authorized to use the outgoing server. Presumably because you have not authenticated yourself. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:22:59 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
"Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com
I think that is trying to tell you that you are not authorized to use the outgoing server. Presumably because you have not authenticated yourself.
RB>But I have created the linux userlogin and the password. The RB>incoming mail server authenticated me but why I can not use the RB>outgoing mail server. RB>After the failed email sending from KMail of my linux box (client RB> computer connected to another ISP with an private-IP from DHCP RB> Server of my ISP), I've checked the logfile of my Postfix on mail RB> server side: sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: start interval Oct 1 22:58:45 Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: address lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: connect from unknown[111.94.12.63] Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[111.94.12.63]: 554 5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied; from=<ricky@mygoogle.com> to=<feybe_k@yahoo.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mandreev.localnet> Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: disconnect from unknown[111.94.12.63] sussy:/var/log # RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support
As you are presumably trying to connect to your outbound server using SASL (userid+password), it makes sense that the connection requires TLS. However, your system does not appear to be set up for using TLS ? /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:02:00 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support
As you are presumably trying to connect to your outbound server using SASL (userid+password), it makes sense that the connection requires TLS. However, your system does not appear to be set up for using TLS ?
/Per
RB>Dear Per Jessen. Please CMIIW, so you are meaning: if the scheme is: RB>I want to use the userid+password for sending email though outbound RB>server (with the basic config from suse) than I have to setup TLS on RB>my mail server? Is it like that, Per? Please CMIIW. RB>Currently, Yes my mail server does not have TLS setup on it. You're RB>right. RB>If then, than I need to lookup the documentation how to setup TLS RB>on postfix. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
RB>Dear Per Jessen. Please CMIIW, so you are meaning: if the scheme is: RB>I want to use the userid+password for sending email though outbound RB>server (with the basic config from suse) than I have to setup TLS on RB>my mail server? Is it like that, Per? Please CMIIW.
It's impossible for anyone to say without further information, but *if* your provider requires you to authenticate using a userid and a password, and *if* these are being sent in plain text, it makes sense that the connection should be using TLS to prevent others from picking up your password.
RB>Currently, Yes my mail server does not have TLS setup on it. You're RB>right. RB>If then, than I need to lookup the documentation how to setup TLS RB>on postfix.
The error messages you sent strongly indicate that the receiving server required TLS, and since this could not be established, your authentication failed. AFAIR, setting TLS on a postfix client is no big deal. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 01 October 2009 12:17:53 pm Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
RB>Dear Per Jessen. Please CMIIW, so you are meaning: if the scheme is: RB>I want to use the userid+password for sending email though outbound RB>server (with the basic config from suse) than I have to setup TLS on RB>my mail server? Is it like that, Per? Please CMIIW.
RB>Currently, Yes my mail server does not have TLS setup on it. You're RB>right.
RB>If then, than I need to lookup the documentation how to setup TLS RB>on postfix.
Ricky, I have a pretty good opensuse server setup page that might help here: http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/openSuSE-server.php (and, don't worry about keeping your domain secret, the hackers will find it anyway -- that's why Linux is so secure) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 23:33 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]:
You probably need TLS. /usr/share/doc/packages/postfix/html/TLS_README.html
connect from unknown[111.94.12.63] Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[111.94.12.63]: 554 5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied; from=<ricky@mygoogle.com> to=<feybe_k@yahoo.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mandreev.localnet> Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: disconnect from unknown[111.94.12.63] sussy:/var/log #
I assume that is your attempt to send an email. Notice that it is coming from an IP that does not match the IP from your domain, as far as I know. It is not coming from the intranet, but from internet, and thus, postfix should require authentication before accepting to relay that email. Read postfix documentation, the part for sasl authentication. For this part, you need to setup the "server" sasl side (the client side is needed if postfix has to authenticate to another server). /usr/share/doc/packages/postfix/html/SASL_README.html
RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain.
Then, instead of using "mygoogle.com", just replace your real domain name with something "MYDOMAIN" in uppercase, so that we know you replaced it. You also need to replace the IPs, with some indicative text. Just don't invent a name that looks "real" (mygoogle.com is a real internet name that does exist). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrFAboACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U8xwCfQ4owWCi0KXeA1xNRi0uSDhST N2QAmwbSQpmQy7S+wyTipzCSrHiy+BXN =H3xa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:
RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain.
Then, instead of using "mygoogle.com", just replace your real domain name with something "MYDOMAIN" in uppercase, so that we know you replaced it. You also need to replace the IPs, with some indicative text. Just don't invent a name that looks "real" (mygoogle.com is a real internet name that does exist).
example.com|net|org are often used instead of the real name. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 23:33 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]:
You probably need TLS.
I've seen a hint in his logs that tlsmgr does not exist in his configuration. That is probably the real cause of that message. OP should let Postfix check his configuration: Add missing lines in master.cf (TLSMGR!!): postfix upgrade-configuration General permission check: postfix check After a reload the problem with tlsmgr should be fixed.
RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain.
Then use names that exist for exactly that purpose: example.com example.net server.example ... There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname - working dns resolution I would like to add basic knowledge about smtp protocol and server security and monitoring, but that is probably wishful thinking... sigh (^-^) It is difficult to help the OP because I still don't know what exactly he tries to do and what he has available to work with. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:
There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname
(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:
Sandy Drobic wrote:
There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname
(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement.
Grin! Do you mean "it's not a difficult requirement" or do you mean "it is not a really necessary requirement"? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Sandy Drobic wrote:
There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname
(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement.
Grin! Do you mean "it's not a difficult requirement" or do you mean "it is not a really necessary requirement"?
Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:
Sandy Drobic wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Sandy Drobic wrote:
There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname (cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement. Grin! Do you mean "it's not a difficult requirement" or do you mean "it is not a really necessary requirement"?
Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver.
The old rule still applies: configure your own system to match the requirements as good as possible, so other servers won't complain about your server, but require only the sensible minimum from other servers. My addendum is, that I slap a few extra checks on "unknown" servers or systems with a sloppy setup like greylisting and some more RBL checks. But I do not reject them solely by their hostname or missing reverse dns record. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:
The old rule still applies: configure your own system to match the requirements as good as possible, so other servers won't complain about your server, but require only the sensible minimum from other servers.
My addendum is, that I slap a few extra checks on "unknown" servers or systems with a sloppy setup like greylisting and some more RBL checks. But I do not reject them solely by their hostname or missing reverse dns record.
Exactly the same here. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-10-02 at 12:10 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: ...
There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname
(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement.
Grin! Do you mean "it's not a difficult requirement" or do you mean "it is not a really necessary requirement"?
Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver.
In my country, it is really difficult to get reverse dns to work. You must be BIG to get it. Or have some "friends" or inside contacts. At least, it has been so for many years. Maybe things change... dunno. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrGb3gACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Wm4ACggz4iw/jWpDBZBS367TT5Mlg2 zZsAnRuxBjk/My3kEXW6tTZ44EHvFLYf =IJ5y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday, 2009-10-02 at 12:10 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver.
In my country, it is really difficult to get reverse dns to work. You must be BIG to get it. Or have some "friends" or inside contacts. At least, it has been so for many years. Maybe things change... dunno.
I'm surprised that anyone who provides static IPs would not know how to (or not want to) add a record to the reverse zone file. So far I have only come across one Swiss provider which refuses to set up reverse DNS for single static IPs - they require you to have a/29 network for which they charge more than for a single static IP. I think it's a highly questionable business practice, although not illegal or unethical as such. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.3°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 05:19 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: ...
I have created local linux user account on my Postfix+DoveCot server. I also can access the content of my mailbox from my KMail. I am so happy but once I try to send email (testing the smtp) than I realize that I can't send an email from my email client (KMail).
I use this setting on my email client: 1. 'incoming mailserver' == 'outgoing mailserver' == 'mail.mygoogle.com' (pseudonome).
Don't use a .com for you local smtp server. Use a completely faked, non existing, domain, unless you do really have an internet domain name and are going to set a "real" mail server there. Why do I say that? Because mygoogle.com is registered, it does exist. Use something like "mail.myserver.mydomain" instead, never a .com, .org, etc.
Also username and password are all the same between incoming/outgoing mailserver, namely the local userlogin of LINUX. As the username, I put 'ricky' (but not 'ricky@mygoogle.com'). 2. smtp authentication: No encryption and plaintext.
The error message on my KMail is: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages?
Get the log from postfix and post it here. The part pertaining to you sending attempt. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAkrD694ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VmmgCY6GHVBCgd7UAjA+FLGKDd8emy bgCfchcS2z23nIFOAj0rFFlr7UB7F5M= =Euow -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:37:59 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 05:19 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: Don't use a .com for you local smtp server. Use a completely faked, non existing, domain, unless you do really have an internet domain name and are going to set a "real" mail server there. Why do I say that? Because mygoogle.com is registered, it does exist.
Use something like "mail.myserver.mydomain" instead, never a .com, .org, etc.
RB>Dear Carlos, Yes I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has been RB>setup on my mail/web server. I just replace every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hacker, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain. RB>I can do getting the content of my mailbox, but I can not send an RB>email with my email server. It's been created with postfix and RB>DoveCot.
Get the log from postfix and post it here. The part pertaining to you sending attempt.
RB>After the failed email sending from KMail of my linux box (client RB> computer connected to another ISP with an private-IP from DHCP RB> Server of my ISP), I've checked the logfile of my Postfix on mail RB> server side: sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: start interval Oct 1 22:58:45 Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: address lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: connect from unknown[111.94.12.63] Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[111.94.12.63]: 554 5.7.1 <feybe_k@yahoo.com>: Relay access denied; from=<ricky@mygoogle.com> to=<feybe_k@yahoo.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mandreev.localnet> Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: disconnect from unknown[111.94.12.63] sussy:/var/log # -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 23:25 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:
sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory
That would be "tail -100 filename". - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrFAi0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U7KACeK9oGmdYBaof9SfqhvgpjJ0EG wQcAn0YsrjA13vCLyOxrIceVYgQ/heqh =c65I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530? Thanks, Dave Feustel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

david feustel wrote:
I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?
Thanks, Dave Feustel see if http://intellinuxwireless.org/ helps
or http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_(Wireless) maybe try going through yast and finding new hardware? What chipset is the NIC? I did some googling and found those 2 links. It would have to be based on when the drivers are in the kernel, however Ubuntu works fine on it I read so I don't now. Probably have to get intel drivers. See the first link. See the 2nd link to see what chipset the NIC is and go from there. I did some quick research and found that it could be realtek or intel chipset. Google is your friend. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Dunsavage" <mikesd1@verizon.net> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530
david feustel wrote:
I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?
Thanks, Dave Feustel see if http://intellinuxwireless.org/ helps
or
http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_(Wireless)
maybe try going through yast and finding new hardware?
Neither the wireless nor the wired ports worked so I had NO internet access until I reinstalled vista.
What chipset is the NIC? I did some googling and found those 2 links. It would have to be based on when the drivers are in the kernel, however Ubuntu works fine on it I read so I don't now. Probably have to get intel drivers. See the first link. See the 2nd link to see what chipset the NIC is and go from there.
I did some quick research and found that it could be realtek or intel chipset. Google is your friend.
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On Sunday 04 October 2009 03:09:12 am david feustel wrote:
Neither the wireless nor the wired ports worked so I had NO internet access until I reinstalled vista.
i think you're jumping the gun a little early; and if you go for MS again, why vista? to me XP seems a much better choice, or even windows 7 (my kids tell me that's much better than vista; didn't try it myself). i had similar problems with an earlier version of openSUSE, that i couldn't get the network card working after installing. it did work when running from the live CD, though. eventually i managed to copy the hardware driver the live CD was using to an existing ntfs drive, and moved it into the new linux installation after reboot; that got my network working. _if_ your lennovo runs from a live CD including network, you could try that. if not you should be able to get a driver from the IBM or lennovo website; IBM is doing quite a lot these days for open source development, particularly supporting their own soft- and hardware. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

_if_ your lennovo runs from a live CD including network, you could try that. if not you should be able to get a driver from the IBM or lennovo website; IBM is doing quite a lot these days for open source development, particularly supporting their own soft- and hardware.
Perhaps use opensuse 11.1 instead of a mileston 11.2 also? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "phanisvara das" <phani00@gmail.com> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530
On Sunday 04 October 2009 03:09:12 am david feustel wrote:
Neither the wireless nor the wired ports worked so I had NO internet access until I reinstalled vista.
i think you're jumping the gun a little early; and if you go for MS again, why vista? to me XP seems a much better choice, or even windows 7 (my kids tell me that's much better than vista; didn't try it myself).
I only went back to vista after trying Opensuse, Fedora 11, and OpenBSD 4.5 on the laptop. I had been in the hospital with no good internet acess for 2 months and I decided that Windows Vista was better than no access. I still prefer LINUX.
i had similar problems with an earlier version of openSUSE, that i couldn't get the network card working after installing. it did work when running from the live CD, though. eventually i managed to copy the hardware driver the live CD was using to an existing ntfs drive, and moved it into the new linux installation after reboot; that got my network working.
_if_ your lennovo runs from a live CD including network, you could try that. if not you should be able to get a driver from the IBM or lennovo website; IBM is doing quite a lot these days for open source development, particularly supporting their own soft- and hardware.
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On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 15:55 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
david feustel wrote:
I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?
Run "/sbin/lspci" and provide that information. That reports what hardware [at least on the PCI bus] comprises the machine. I have no idea what exactly is in a G530 (and there is no guarantee that every G530 is the same, OEMs are fickle sometimes). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 04 October 2009 11:05:21 am Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Run "/sbin/lspci" and provide that information. That reports what hardware [at least on the PCI bus] comprises the machine. I have no idea what exactly is in a G530 (and there is no guarantee that every G530 is the same, OEMs are fickle sometimes).
since you've already installed vista on that machine, you can do that after booting from the live CD. at that time you can also check if, while running from the CD, your network connection works. that happened to me once, and only after i transfered the network driver from the live CD to my HDD was i able to get the network working after installation. if you should be able to get your network problems sorted out with help from this list, you might want to install openSUSE 11.1 instead of the pre- release 11.2 version, which is more likely to cause problems for you. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2009-10-03 at 13:51 -0500, david feustel wrote:
I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?
Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads. <http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette#Changing_the_subject_without_opening_a_new_thread> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrHsFoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UWtgCfdDk2Dpn2IBOz18LIBCACzjXx gacAnjooEFYwrjmdbTCfqFT6yYogwdbd =FoAA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
oooooooo I see what he did. I checked the Archive by SUBJECT and see. Sorry Carlos. My fault. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sorry. I thought I WAS starting my own thread. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Dunsavage" <mikesd1@verizon.net> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
oooooooo I see what he did. I checked the Archive by SUBJECT and see. Sorry Carlos. My fault.
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On Sunday 04 October 2009 03:11:25 am david feustel wrote:
Sorry. I thought I WAS starting my own thread.
understandable error. it's not enough to over-write the subject line, you have to start a new message to the list address and give it a descriptive subject. as was pointed out earlier, read <http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette> to prevent future problems like this. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 04 October 2009 01:54:02 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
to me it looks like he assigned a new subject to an existing thread, also called "hijacking." if you look at the mailing list archive in thread view <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html> that's what it looks like. i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread? -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread?
It was my fault and I apologized to Carlos. I was looking @ the archives by date not subject and apparently David just deleted the subject when he hit reply. I then went and looked at archived by Subject and realized what he did and hence my apology to Carlos. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 04 October 2009 02:29:46 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
It was my fault and I apologized to Carlos. I was looking @ the archives by date not subject and apparently David just deleted the subject ...
note to self: wait a few minutes before replying to such obvious mistakes. chances are that a couple others will figure it out by the time my reply arrives, and we get half a dozen of messages covering the same topic... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "phanisvara das" <phani00@gmail.com> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530
On Sunday 04 October 2009 01:54:02 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
to me it looks like he assigned a new subject to an existing thread, also called "hijacking." if you look at the mailing list archive in thread view <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html> that's what it looks like.
i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread?
-- phani.
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david feustel wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "phanisvara das" <phani00@gmail.com> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530
On Sunday 04 October 2009 01:54:02 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
to me it looks like he assigned a new subject to an existing thread, also called "hijacking." if you look at the mailing list archive in thread view <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html> that's what it looks like.
i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread?
-- phani.
I started a thread AND hikjacked a thread without meaning to. I won't do it again. My apologies.
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Good. Can you now also reply to list instead of reply to all? Or at least remove the personal email when you hit reply and just keep the opensuse list in. Thanks. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html
No he did'nt:
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# Re: [opensuse] Can use the incoming mailserver but not the outgoing mailserver., Ricky Tompu Breaky (Thu Oct 01 16:24:59 GMT 2009) * Re: [opensuse] Can use the incoming mailserver but not the outgoing mailserver., Carlos E. R. (Thu Oct 01 21:20:08 GMT 2009) ********Here is where david jumped in and changed the subject********* o [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, david feustel (Sat Oct 03 17:50:52 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 19:55:09 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, david feustel (Sat Oct 03 20:38:43 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Carlos E. R. (Sat Oct 03 20:12:37 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 20:23:57 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 20:29:03 GMT 2009) Check the list here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 03.10.2009, david feustel wrote:
I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530
Please provide the output of "lspci -v" which is related to this adapter. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Adam Tauno Williams
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Carlos E. R.
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David C. Rankin
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david feustel
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Heinz Diehl
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John Andersen
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE
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Michael S. Dunsavage
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Per Jessen
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phanisvara das
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Ricky Tompu Breaky
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Rodney Baker
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Sandy Drobic