[opensuse] Kmail does not show all messages
Using KMail, Version 1.12.2, Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 163" Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content. Today I checked my inbox with midnight commander and found that the daily NewYork Times is there although in Kmail it does not show up. From this morning I remember that the yesterday's NYTimes did show up together with some other email from yesterday. So I assume that the NYTimes from today will be readable tomorrow morning. With the Suse box where all incoming suse email is going I found in several cases headers without text. They cannot be erased. Later in the day they get text and can be erased. Get the feeling that there is something amiss with the index for the folders. Somebody else with this kind of (mis)behavior? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Using KMail, Version 1.12.2, Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 163" Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content. Today I checked my inbox with midnight commander and found that the daily NewYork Times is there although in Kmail it does not show up. From this morning I remember that the yesterday's NYTimes did show up together with some other email from yesterday. So I assume that the NYTimes from today will be readable tomorrow morning. With the Suse box where all incoming suse email is going I found in several cases headers without text. They cannot be erased. Later in the day they get text and can be erased. Get the feeling that there is something amiss with the index for the folders. Somebody else with this kind of (mis)behavior?
There is no shortage of Paragraphs, Constant, feel free to use some. I think we would need to know a little bit about how you get your mail in order to help. What type of mailbox is it, Pop3, Imap?. For Imap accounts, Kmail is pretty much at the mercy of the imap server. Some of what you describe sounds like a overworked server. Kmail does not properly support imap idle yet. With imap idle, Reading a mail on one computer should show it as read on other computers, usually within a second. Kmail appears not to send these "was read" notices to Imap servers promptly. Not till the next download of mail. Broken mail box could be a problem if you use pop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 October 2009 01:23:43 am John Andersen wrote:
What type of mailbox is it, Pop3, Imap?.
For Imap accounts, Kmail is pretty much at the mercy of the imap server. Some of what you describe sounds like a overworked server.
either IMAP server overworked, or connection to the server not reliable. first the message headers get downloaded, and then, while the message is being opened, kmail won't let you delete it because it's working on it. that's why i use fechmail to donwload everything to a local mailbox. once it's in there, it opens instantly in kmail. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 11:28:10 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Using KMail, Version 1.12.2, Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 163" Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content. Today I checked my inbox with midnight commander and found that the daily NewYork Times is there although in Kmail it does not show up. From this morning I remember that the yesterday's NYTimes did show up together with some other email from yesterday. So I assume that the NYTimes from today will be readable tomorrow morning. With the Suse box where all incoming suse email is going I found in several cases headers without text. They cannot be erased. Later in the day they get text and can be erased. Get the feeling that there is something amiss with the index for the folders. Somebody else with this kind of (mis)behavior?
Is this mail you dont see HTML based rubbish if so have you got KMail setup to read the html rubbish Pete -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 21:12 up 12 days 22:54, 4 users, load average: 1.18, 1.08, 0.82
On Friday 09 October 2009 01:43:45 am Peter Nikolic wrote:
Is this mail you dont see HTML based rubbish if so have you got KMail setup to read the html rubbish
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:37:33 phanisvara das wrote:
On Friday 09 October 2009 01:43:45 am Peter Nikolic wrote:
Is this mail you dont see HTML based rubbish if so have you got KMail setup to read the html rubbish
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ... go play.
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* Peter Nikolic
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:37:33 phanisvara das wrote:
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ... go play.
On Friday 09 October 2009 02:33:33 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Mind you manners, Peter. wasted effort, ....
i don't mind the manners, but found it difficult to understand what he was trying to say. now i think i've figured it out: those newspaper subscriptions the OP sometimes can't see may consist only of HTML, which kmail wisely doesn't show by default. i haven't seen many only-HTML emails that weren't pure spam, but it's possible that he subscribed and specified that he wanted to receive HTML. in that case he'd have to make sure that the option "prefer HTML to plain text" in the folder menu is checked to be able to see anything except the header. constant, did you try that? -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
phanisvara das wrote:
On Friday 09 October 2009 02:33:33 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Mind you manners, Peter. wasted effort, ....
i don't mind the manners, but found it difficult to understand what he was trying to say. now i think i've figured it out:
those newspaper subscriptions the OP sometimes can't see may consist only of HTML, which kmail wisely doesn't show by default.
Kmail always warns about not showing the html. The op would not have missed that warning. Further, such mail would not fill in later in the day. Someone isn't reading the problem description. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 October 2009 04:28:42 am John Andersen wrote:
Someone isn't reading the problem description.
did read it, but thought it was possible that he'd switched HTML on / off without making a connection between that and contents shown / not shown. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 October 2009 04:28:42 am John Andersen wrote:
Kmail always warns about not showing the html. The op would not have missed that warning. Further, such mail would not fill in later in the day.
i've seen cases where kmail didn't tell me about HTML not beeing shown. but if that would have been the case, OP should have been able to delete the message w/o delay.
Someone isn't reading the problem description.
...or didn't think it thru' properly. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 22:03:33 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Peter Nikolic
[10-08-09 16:51]: On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:37:33 phanisvara das wrote:
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ...
go play.
Mind you manners, Peter. wasted effort, .... Hi ..
well know what i mean i try ask a question and point something out and i get well nuff said can i help it if i think HTML has absolutely NO place at all in email Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 22:58 up 13 days 0:41, 4 users, load average: 0.58, 0.59, 0.55
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-10-08 at 23:00 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 22:03:33 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Peter Nikolic
[10-08-09 16:51]: On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:37:33 phanisvara das wrote:
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ...
go play.
Mind you manners, Peter. wasted effort, .... Hi ..
well know what i mean i try ask a question and point something out and i get well nuff said can i help it if i think HTML has absolutely NO place at all in email
What you write is quite difficult to understand. For example, I guess that "know" above should be "now". By the time I get to the "well nuff" I'm completely baffled, so I give up (after reading the paragraph four times), and go to the next message. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQUdIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WhbwCdFfaJ1o7a2aOxo9HWiweXLYeR hGkAnRwS5y1nt/197S2dw+ihIb6q17Jk =eBM8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 October 2009 04:20:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
What you write is quite difficult to understand. For example, I guess that "know" above should be "now". By the time I get to the "well nuff" I'm completely baffled, so I give up (after reading the paragraph four times), and go to the next message.
It was Friday. Try reading it after a few Scotches, made perfect sense ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 10:20:16 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Thursday, 2009-10-08 at 23:00 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 22:03:33 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Peter Nikolic
[10-08-09 16:51]: On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:37:33 phanisvara das wrote:
hard to understand what you're saying, except "rubbish" ...
go play.
Mind you manners, Peter. wasted effort, ....
Hi ..
well know what i mean i try ask a question and point something out and i get well nuff said can i help it if i think HTML has absolutely NO place at all in email
What you write is quite difficult to understand. For example, I guess that "know" above should be "now". By the time I get to the "well nuff" I'm completely baffled, so I give up (after reading the paragraph four times), and go to the next message.
? Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 10:01 up 15 days 11:44, 2 users, load average: 0.11, 0.09, 0.03
well know what i mean i try ask a question and point something out and i get well nuff said can i help it if i think HTML has absolutely NO place at all in email
What you write is quite difficult to understand. For example, I guess that "know" above should be "now". By the time I get to the "well nuff" I'm completely baffled, so I give up (after reading the paragraph four times), and go to the next message.
? Pete .
Hi Peter, I can understand Carlos. I have the same difficulty. I didn't understand your messages in this thread besides the "go play" :-) message. All the Best Karl -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 8 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.31-10-default KDE: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 3" 11:15 1 Tag 20:30 an, 3 Benutzer, Durchschnittslast: 0,56, 0,46, 0,30 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 11 October 2009 02:48:02 pm Karl Sinn wrote:
I can understand Carlos. I have the same difficulty. I didn't understand your messages in this thread besides the "go play" :-) message.
and i can't even understand that. guess i'm just too old, or thick-headed... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
messages in this thread besides the "go play" :-) message.
and i can't even understand that. guess i'm just too old, or thick-headed...
Oh sorry it wasn't meant like that, I just wanted to say that I understand the meaning of the "sentence", not that I actually appreciate/understand the chosen style Karl -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 8 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.31-10-default KDE: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 3" 19:03 2 Tage 4:18 an, 3 Benutzer, Durchschnittslast: 0,31, 0,19, 0,21 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:28:10 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content.
In the Kmail Version 1.9.10 (KDE 3.5.9) I had a similar problem where you get the subject showing up without any body to the email. This appears to be caused by corrupt index files. The way I clear the problem is exiting Kmail and deleting the 3 index files associated with the mail folder. i.e. <folder>.index, <folder>.ids, <folder>.sorted When you restart Kmail all the indexes will be recreated and the body of the message should be displayed. -- Regards, Graham Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 of October 2009, Graham Smith wrote:
On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:28:10 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content.
In the Kmail Version 1.9.10 (KDE 3.5.9) I had a similar problem where you get the subject showing up without any body to the email. This appears to be caused by corrupt index files.
The way I clear the problem is exiting Kmail and deleting the 3 index files associated with the mail folder. i.e. <folder>.index, <folder>.ids, <folder>.sorted
I think that makes it forget some status about the mails (not sure, and I don't feel like trying :) ). Another workaround is temporarily moving the mail to another folder (using other mail client or web interface), that'll cause KMail to refetch the mail body. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 972 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-10-09 at 07:51 +0200, Lubos Lunak wrote:
The way I clear the problem is exiting Kmail and deleting the 3 index files associated with the mail folder. i.e. <folder>.index, <folder>.ids, <folder>.sorted
I think that makes it forget some status about the mails (not sure, and I don't feel like trying :) ).
It does.
Another workaround is temporarily moving the mail to another folder (using other mail client or web interface), that'll cause KMail to refetch the mail body.
Doing that would not move the indexes, so the status info is also lost. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQUpQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V8zACfYaUBq4v1Tu1jVv6rw9B9BlAj ZyMAn3YGICHyDF7Q753n0ZQkb2lNagWu =E+lD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 October 2009 12:17:18 Graham Smith wrote:
On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:28:10 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Since last week I found that in Kmail sometimes messages in my inbox but also in my suse folder are not shown. Or they only show the header without content.
The way I clear the problem is exiting Kmail and deleting the 3 index files associated with the mail folder. i.e. <folder>.index, <folder>.ids, <folder>.sorted
When you restart Kmail all the indexes will be recreated and the body of the message should be displayed.
Thanks. That did it for the inbox, I got the yesterdays NYTimes (in text format) back and it worked for showing the email contents from the empty messages. A bit late in answering but we do not seem to be behind the computer at the same time ;). -- Powered by openSUSE 11.1 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.27.29-0.1-default KDE: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 163" 2:50pm up 18:09, 2 users, load average: 1.21, 0.69, 0.65 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Constant Brouerius van Nidek
A bit late in answering but we do not seem to be behind the computer at the same time ;).
That *would* be a problem. Difficult to see the screen and reach the keyboard I imagine :^) Perhaps somewhat counter-productive I would think. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (10)
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Carlos E. R.
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek
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David C. Rankin
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Graham Smith
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John Andersen
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Karl Sinn
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Lubos Lunak
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Patrick Shanahan
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Peter Nikolic
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phanisvara das