Sudden Breakdown in Gnumeric
Hi, I use a Gnumeric spreadsheet to log my bicycle training. Two days ago (Saturday) I made an entry, the latest in a long series. Yesterday (Sunday) when I launched Gnumeric to make another entry it hung. The window displayed, but was mostly blank. The placement of various GUI elements can be discerned by different colors, though no text or other drawing was present, and the row and column headers regions were "transparent" (the desktop shows through). There is neither CPU usage nor memory size accumulation. I'm looking for one of two things: 1) A clue about this specific problem from someone who's encountered it already 2) Techniques to use in diagnosing the problem. I did update a few packages between the last successful invocation of Gnumeric and the one that failed, but they were just routine updates of packages posted to Guru's RPM or Packman (via YaST Software Management), and I don't recall which packages were affected. Is there some way to see a chronologically ordered and / or annotated listing of package installations and updates via YaST? I ran "rpm -V -a" but nothing in the output stands out. However, I must admit that I'm not very familiar with everything it's trying to tell me. I'm running SuSE 10.0 on an late-model HT Pentium CPU. I've applied all the YOU-provided updates except the latest kernel update, which I need to hold until it's convenient for me to reboot, do some hardware maintenance and rebuild my VMware setup, as is required whenever a new kernel is released. Any help would be appreciated. Randall Schulz
On 29.05.06,09:14, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I use a Gnumeric spreadsheet to log my bicycle training. Two days ago (Saturday) I made an entry, the latest in a long series. Yesterday (Sunday) when I launched Gnumeric to make another entry it hung. The window displayed, but was mostly blank. The placement of various GUI elements can be discerned by different colors, though no text or other drawing was present, and the row and column headers regions were "transparent" (the desktop shows through). There is neither CPU usage nor memory size accumulation.
I'm looking for one of two things:
1) A clue about this specific problem from someone who's encountered it already
2) Techniques to use in diagnosing the problem.
I did update a few packages between the last successful invocation of Gnumeric and the one that failed, but they were just routine updates of packages posted to Guru's RPM or Packman (via YaST Software Management), and I don't recall which packages were affected. Is there some way to see a chronologically ordered and / or annotated listing of package installations and updates via YaST?
I ran "rpm -V -a" but nothing in the output stands out. However, I must admit that I'm not very familiar with everything it's trying to tell me.
I'm running SuSE 10.0 on an late-model HT Pentium CPU. I've applied all the YOU-provided updates except the latest kernel update, which I need to hold until it's convenient for me to reboot, do some hardware maintenance and rebuild my VMware setup, as is required whenever a new kernel is released.
Any help would be appreciated.
Some things to check: 1) Is it only this spreadsheet that are affected? 2) Can you remove Gnumeric and reinstall it to see if that helps? 3) Can you open the sheet in OO Calc? - Jostein
Randall Schulz
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Jostein, On Monday 29 May 2006 13:15, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
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Some things to check:
1) Is it only this spreadsheet that are affected?
It is not tied to the particular document that first disclosed the problem. Just launching the application causes the hang I described.
2) Can you remove Gnumeric and reinstall it to see if that helps?
I've done that but the symptom remains.
3) Can you open the sheet in OO Calc?
I don't want to have to clean the vomit off my keyboard. Yeah, I'm not fond of OOo. It's gross and ugly and big and ugly and clunky and ugly. Did I mention it's ugly? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to line MS's pockets by buying a copy of Excel, either. Besides, in addition to what I wrote above, I looked at the XML in the Gnumeric document and it seems perfectly intact. I want my Gnumeric back. I use it for other things, too.
- Jostein
Randall Schulz
On 29.05.06,14:59, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jostein,
On Monday 29 May 2006 13:15, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
...
Some things to check:
1) Is it only this spreadsheet that are affected?
It is not tied to the particular document that first disclosed the problem. Just launching the application causes the hang I described.
2) Can you remove Gnumeric and reinstall it to see if that helps?
I've done that but the symptom remains.
3) Can you open the sheet in OO Calc?
I don't want to have to clean the vomit off my keyboard.
Yeah, I'm not fond of OOo. It's gross and ugly and big and ugly and clunky and ugly. Did I mention it's ugly? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to line MS's pockets by buying a copy of Excel, either.
Besides, in addition to what I wrote above, I looked at the XML in the Gnumeric document and it seems perfectly intact.
I want my Gnumeric back. I use it for other things, too.
Are there any interesting messages from Gnumeric when starting it from a terminal? - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
On 30.05.06,00:18, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
On 29.05.06,14:59, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jostein,
On Monday 29 May 2006 13:15, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
...
Some things to check:
1) Is it only this spreadsheet that are affected?
It is not tied to the particular document that first disclosed the problem. Just launching the application causes the hang I described.
2) Can you remove Gnumeric and reinstall it to see if that helps?
I've done that but the symptom remains.
3) Can you open the sheet in OO Calc?
I don't want to have to clean the vomit off my keyboard.
Yeah, I'm not fond of OOo. It's gross and ugly and big and ugly and clunky and ugly. Did I mention it's ugly? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to line MS's pockets by buying a copy of Excel, either.
Besides, in addition to what I wrote above, I looked at the XML in the Gnumeric document and it seems perfectly intact.
I want my Gnumeric back. I use it for other things, too.
Are there any interesting messages from Gnumeric when starting it from a terminal?
Or with "strace gnumeric"? - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
Jostein, On Monday 29 May 2006 15:18, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
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Are there any interesting messages from Gnumeric when starting it from a terminal?
Nah. I looked at that first off when the problem arose. Just a complaint about a preference value out-of-range: ** (gnumeric:2382): WARNING **: Invalid value '25' for history/n. If should be >= 0 and <= 20 ** (gnumeric:2382): WARNING **: Using default value '4' I also tried downgrading from 1.6.1 (from the Gnome 2.12 supplementary package repository) to 1.4.3 (from SuSE 10.0), but the symptom appears in both versions.
- Jostein
Randall Schulz
Jostein, On Monday 29 May 2006 13:15, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
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Some things to check:
1) ...
2) ...
3) Can you open the sheet in OO Calc?
It does not appear that OOo Calc has the capability to open Gnumeric spreadsheets.
- Jostein
Randall Schulz
On 29.05.06,09:14, Randall R Schulz wrote: ....
packages posted to Guru's RPM or Packman (via YaST Software Management), and I don't recall which packages were affected. Is there some way to see a chronologically ordered and / or annotated listing of package installations and updates via YaST?
List over Yast updates sorted by date: ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8}' - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
On 30.05.06,00:48, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
On 29.05.06,09:14, Randall R Schulz wrote:
....
packages posted to Guru's RPM or Packman (via YaST Software Management), and I don't recall which packages were affected. Is there some way to see a chronologically ordered and / or annotated listing of package installations and updates via YaST?
List over Yast updates sorted by date:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8}'
Sorry, that should be: ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8} | \ sort -n - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
Jostein, On Monday 29 May 2006 15:52, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
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List over Yast updates sorted by date:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8}'
Sorry, that should be:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8} | \ sort -n
Awk doesn't like this (even with the second apostrophe reinstated). I tried variations, but nothing I came up with was to awk's liking. Naturally, I substituted 10.0 instead of 9.2. Finally, this looks like only the YOU updates. I was more concerned with YaST package installation and updates, since that's what I did between the time Gnumeric was working and when it stopped working.
- Jostein
Randall Schulz
On 29.05.06,16:04, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jostein,
On Monday 29 May 2006 15:52, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
...
List over Yast updates sorted by date:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8}'
Sorry, that should be:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8} | \ sort -n
Awk doesn't like this (even with the second apostrophe reinstated). I tried variations, but nothing I came up with was to awk's liking.
Naturally, I substituted 10.0 instead of 9.2.
Finally, this looks like only the YOU updates. I was more concerned with YaST package installation and updates, since that's what I did between the time Gnumeric was working and when it stopped working.
Correction in command: "ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/10.0/patches | awk '{print $6,$7,$8}' | sort -n" Should work with awk now. - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
Jostein, On Monday 29 May 2006 16:20, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
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Correction in command:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/10.0/patches \ |awk '{print $6,$7,$8}' |sort -n
Should work with awk now.
Yes, but as I said, this is only YOU-applied patches and updates. I want to know about packages installed or updated using YaST's Software Management module. In fact, the list produced includes the recent kernel update, which I have not even applied, so this list looks like it contains packages offered via YOU, whether installed or not.
- Jostein
Randall Schulz
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 00:48 +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
On 29.05.06,09:14, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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packages posted to Guru's RPM or Packman (via YaST Software Management), and I don't recall which packages were affected. Is there some way to see a chronologically ordered and / or annotated listing of package installations and updates via YaST?
List over Yast updates sorted by date:
ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | awk print '{$6,$7,$8}'
I get a syntax error pointing to print. However in Suse 9.2 cwsiv@linux:~> ls -lR /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/i386/update/9.2 | gawk '{ print $6,$7,$8}' Works just fine. Perhaps its a version thing. also I dont seem to have awk but gawk. Looks like there is another tool to study. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
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