-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, In Linux, I have my video mode set to "70 Hz", at 1024*768 (gnome desktop, 10.2). If I start vmware (a windows virtual machine) and select "Full Screen", when I come back to linux I find myself at 75Hz, which doesn't work well, forcing me to manually set "70Hz" again - via selecting 60, activate, then select 70, activate, because the gadget thinks it is using 70. How can I tell Vmware not to change the video mode, or at least, restore the proper video mode, not the one /he/ thinks is the proper one? I'm using VMware-server-1.0.3-44356 - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGfrSytTMYHG2NR9URAuISAJ0ewisDCap1IWVPWvGu+Zo5jJ52dwCglGAw fvw+JEoWaaHiZxAJQyjEKbw= =JolX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
In Linux, I have my video mode set to "70 Hz", at 1024*768 (gnome desktop, 10.2). If I start vmware (a windows virtual machine) and select "Full Screen", when I come back to linux I find myself at 75Hz, which doesn't work well, forcing me to manually set "70Hz" again - via selecting 60, activate, then select 70, activate, because the gadget thinks it is using 70.
How can I tell Vmware not to change the video mode, or at least, restore the proper video mode, not the one /he/ thinks is the proper one?
I'm using VMware-server-1.0.3-44356
Hi, maybe you can set the video frequnecy in the windows display settings? Nevertheless, I wonder, what you are doing (no offense intended). If you are using a CRT, 70Hz is by todays standards, way to low for any length of time sitting in front of this. You will do your eyes a favour If you set it to (at least) 85Hz. If you are using a TFT, then 60hz is what you need for optimum display quality. kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-06-24 at 21:38 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
How can I tell Vmware not to change the video mode, or at least, restore the proper video mode, not the one /he/ thinks is the proper one?
I'm using VMware-server-1.0.3-44356
maybe you can set the video frequnecy in the windows display settings?
I tried, but I can't find where can I set that. I mean, I know where it should be, but it is not there: right click on the destop, properties dialog, configuration, advanced. Adaptor: VMware SVGA II. Monitor: predetermined. I see no frequency drop list. Perhaps I should change the monitor, but which one should I choose? [...] I'll try "flat digital panel display"... ah, better, now I see "optimal" and "predetermined". Testing... ok, now windows full screen mode uses 56 Hz (I have it at 800*600), but on going back to linux vmware sets 70 Hz, which doesn't work well with my TFT. So, the virtual machine config is not the problem; the problem is that vmware thinks I want 70 Hz.
Nevertheless, I wonder, what you are doing (no offense intended).
If you are using a CRT, 70Hz is by todays standards, way to low for any length of time sitting in front of this. You will do your eyes a favour If you set it to (at least) 85Hz.
If you are using a TFT, then 60hz is what you need for optimum display quality.
That's the case, it is a cheap TFT and though it can display at 70 Hz it doesn't do so well in Linux: the image is uncentered, and autocenter pushes it half way out of the screen and somewhat fuzzy letters. I really need to use 60 Hz (and it is way easier on my eyes that my big CRT at 85Hz). Perhaps the problem can be handled different: how to tell "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to use a certain frequency instead of the higher one. [...] Yes, it works. I changed: Section "Monitor" # --- Monitor Proview (TFT) --- # VertRefresh 50-75 to: VertRefresh 50-65 and it works. But it is a bug to me: vmware, or whatever function it uses, doesn't make a point of remembering the previous video setting :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGfvPntTMYHG2NR9URAqD1AJ40WhYnqRM+xh+ikU4zRV3khfoc2ACfUt1C h7pHiP9THMA6yTNWt6B1oco= =jOuP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2007-06-24 at 21:38 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
How can I tell Vmware not to change the video mode, or at least, restore the proper video mode, not the one /he/ thinks is the proper one?
I'm using VMware-server-1.0.3-44356 maybe you can set the video frequnecy in the windows display settings?
I tried, but I can't find where can I set that. I mean, I know where it should be, but it is not there: right click on the destop, properties dialog, configuration, advanced. Adaptor: VMware SVGA II. Monitor: predetermined. I see no frequency drop list. Perhaps I should change the monitor, but which one should I choose? [...] I'll try "flat digital panel display"... ah, better, now I see "optimal" and "predetermined".
Testing... ok, now windows full screen mode uses 56 Hz (I have it at 800*600), but on going back to linux vmware sets 70 Hz, which doesn't work well with my TFT.
So, the virtual machine config is not the problem; the problem is that vmware thinks I want 70 Hz.
Nevertheless, I wonder, what you are doing (no offense intended).
If you are using a CRT, 70Hz is by todays standards, way to low for any length of time sitting in front of this. You will do your eyes a favour If you set it to (at least) 85Hz.
If you are using a TFT, then 60hz is what you need for optimum display quality.
That's the case, it is a cheap TFT and though it can display at 70 Hz it doesn't do so well in Linux: the image is uncentered, and autocenter pushes it half way out of the screen and somewhat fuzzy letters. I really need to use 60 Hz (and it is way easier on my eyes that my big CRT at 85Hz).
Yes this is the magic, even a cheap TFT imho surpasses even good CRT in regard to eye ease.
Perhaps the problem can be handled different: how to tell "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to use a certain frequency instead of the higher one.
[...]
Yes, it works. I changed:
Section "Monitor" # --- Monitor Proview (TFT) --- # VertRefresh 50-75
to:
VertRefresh 50-65
and it works. But it is a bug to me: vmware, or whatever function it uses, doesn't make a point of remembering the previous video setting :-(
Glad to hear that it's solved. Still this seems to be somewhat strange to me. For comparison, I try to reproduce your vmware thing: I am also using a TFT at 60HZ on Linux "natively". Now, when using vmware-server with Windows (XPpro), then switch to fullscreen windows and then back to Linux, actually nothing happens! Whatever I do and whatever Windows may think is has for a display, I am at 60Hz throughout. So maybe it is a problem with your graphics card and TFT combination. kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-06-25 at 10:43 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Glad to hear that it's solved.
Still this seems to be somewhat strange to me. For comparison, I try to reproduce your vmware thing: I am also using a TFT at 60HZ on Linux "natively".
Now, when using vmware-server with Windows (XPpro), then switch to fullscreen windows and then back to Linux, actually nothing happens!
Whatever I do and whatever Windows may think is has for a display, I am at 60Hz throughout.
So maybe it is a problem with your graphics card and TFT combination.
It is related to the way I had configured the X system. In /etc/X11/xorg.conf I had: Section "Monitor" # --- Monitor Proview (TFT) --- Identifier "Monitor[tft]" #"Proview" UseModes "Modes[tft]" VendorName "--> VESA" ModelName "1024X768@75HZ" HorizSync 31-60 VertRefresh 50-75 # VertRefresh 50-72 # doesn't work well :-? # VertRefresh 50-65 # doesn't work well :-? This worked well with suse 10.1, but when I updated to 10.2 it didn't. I did many tests, till I found a little gadget in gnome and kde that lets me choose the frequency or resolution at a mouse click, and I selected 60 Hz there. The X system would start in 70, and after log in to gnome it would switch to 60 - te setting was remembered and selected automatically on netxt login. I did try several combinations of VertRefresh to make this work at the X server start instead, but I was not sucesfull - but yesterday I was, the 50-65 range worked fine! I don't know why it didn't work previously and now it does, but... The thing is that vmware interferes somehow. Instead of reverting to the previous video mode, it resets what was supposed to be the default mode in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or roundabouts. I have another problem with vmware: after starting it, the firewall messages go to the active tty in text mode, instead of console 10. This was reported as a bug previously in bugzilla, but I hadn't noticed it started happening after a vmware session. I commented on this on another thread, I just mention it here as another weirdness of vmware. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGf5PmtTMYHG2NR9URAl8nAJsHjQqPc/em/iHRHaifwR3RZM8F/ACfZ7qA fy1FaON2cJoGvmOg9MR+8NE= =XBRi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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