On 5/8/09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

And remember that gmail will delete your posts on the list.

Oh no it won't... It doesn't do that here! Allen Zhu allen.jaloola@gmail.com Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 09 May 2009 00:49:58 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Yes, it does. Once you send an email to the list, gmail thinks that the email you get back from the list is a duplicate, and deletes it silently. The rest of the list see it, but not the sender.

Therefore, newcomers think that their post did not get to the list and repeat the post, or the test.

I'm not sure, but I don't think this is a gmail feature, but rather a mailman feature. There's a setting in mailman to disable receipt of posts that you sent (I think it's called "not metoo" or something like that). Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Friday, 2009-05-08 at 15:44 -0700, Allen Zhu wrote:

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On 5/8/09, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

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And remember that gmail will delete your posts on the list.

Oh no it won't...

It doesn't do that here!

Yes, it does. Once you send an email to the list, gmail thinks that the email you get back from the list is a duplicate, and deletes it silently. The rest of the list see it, but not the sender.

This only happens when you originate a thread, not on replies to existing threads. -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, John Andersen wrote:

Here is Gmail's official dope on this silly feature:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588

Further on this: If you want it to appear in your Gmail, you should consider adding two filters to Gmail for this list. One filter "Labels: the message when it originates from the list (you probably already have that filter). Then add a Second filter applies the same label when it originates from you, AND is sent to the list. (Thats the one you are missing). This latter filter makes sure it gets a label as it is being archived, and then it will not simply disappear into the archive as the above link states. It will also appear in your Labeled mail for this list. You need to do this once for each list you post to. -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2009-05-09 at 11:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Friday, 2009-05-08 at 16:08 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

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Here is Gmail's official dope on this silly feature:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588

Lets' see:

Messages sent to mailing lists don't show in my inbox

When you send a message to any mailing list you subscribe to, Gmail automatically skips your inbox and archives the message to save you time and prevent clutter. The message will appear in your inbox if someone responds to it or if there is an error delivering the message. If you'd like to view your message, you can find it in Sent Mail or All Mail.

So, it says the mail would be in "Sent Mail"? In "Sent Mail" would be the email I sent, but not the second copy received from the list, that one is deleted. I'll try sending via gmail this one to check.

Confirmed, the copy is deleted. My previous email has this header: Message-ID: Searching for that header in the gmail webmail, under the "all mail" tab, produces only one coopy, when there should be two: one in my sent folder (which is the one I see), and a slightly different one in the received folder, the one that was received via opensuse mail list. That second copy is nowhere, they delete it. You, on the other hand, will see that second version, obviusly. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoFTpIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XgZwCfaGHhadivDaqwmA7cQRR7yp00 iGsAn26gLdk6rSXWbLBAJuUK98WfJk7K =R9ri -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Yes, it does. Once you send an email to the list, gmail thinks that the email you get back from the list is a duplicate, and deletes it silently. The rest of the list see it, but not the sender.

Yes, but if you take a look at the screenshot included in the link below:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wyn222tnkk2

(Click on View Full Image on the right hand side)

WARNING No less than three abusive pop-ups from that link. To Allen: find a different image cache site. To all those who whined about attachments last week: See what you have wrought? -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Mike wrote:

On Saturday 09 May 2009, John Andersen wrote:

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On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

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On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Carlos E. R.

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Yes, it does. Once you send an email to the list, gmail thinks that the email you get back from the list is a duplicate, and deletes it silently. The rest of the list see it, but not the sender.

Yes, but if you take a look at the screenshot included in the link below:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wyn222tnkk2

(Click on View Full Image on the right hand side)

WARNING No less than three abusive pop-ups from that link.

What popups? Didn't see any here. But there was an ad to scan my computer.

In that case, you did not click the link to see the GMAIL.JPG that Allen posted.

Set your browser.. Popups are a thing of the past..

Thanks for that tip. I'm totally new to the web. NOT. -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Andersen wrote:

WARNING No less than three abusive pop-ups from that link.

Doesn't every free image cache website have ads? Like Mike also mentioned below, many of them aren't true and misleading, like the free scan ones, but I mean that's how they host your images for free.

To Allen:  find a different image cache site.

Could you recommend one? Really, I'm not familiar with all of those image hosting sites... Thanks!

To all those who whined about attachments last week:  See what you have wrought?

I thought they were talking about actually attaching a file in your email, like a picture or document, not posting a link to another hosting site... Allen Zhu allen.jaloola@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

What I see there is that you can see your won email, yes. But if you check the headers, you will see that it is the one you sent, ie, the one in your sent folder; it is not the one you received through the opensuse server. It does not contain the unsusbscribe notice, for instance.

Yes, but isn't that the point? As long as you know what you sent out.... I understand, but if someone wants to unsubscribe, they would unsubscribe by copying and pasting the email in another thread of in a message reply... Besides that, the headers are different. But after going through mlmmj, the text of the email does not change, you still will see your own same message... I personally don't mind that; but that doesn't mean others don't mind and might need this to make sure they made their message to the list for example. Can we also stop this thread? It has nothing to do with OpenSUSE... Allen Zhu allen.jaloola@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org