HAIL! I have a stupid question: Is there any disk defragmenter for windows partitions who runs on linux???
On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 09:57, Adrian Costescu wrote:
HAIL! I have a stupid question: Is there any disk defragmenter for windows partitions who runs on linux???
Hail back at ya. I found this url: http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/faqs/section4.html#q_4_3 and this one: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/linuxdisk/Misc/linuxdisk13.002.html but basically, I don't think you need one. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic!
On Saturday 24 May 2003 01:36, Marian Routh wrote:
On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 09:57, Adrian Costescu wrote:
HAIL! I have a stupid question: Is there any disk defragmenter for windows partitions who runs on linux???
Hail back at ya. I found this url: http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/faqs/section4.html#q_4_3 and this one: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/linuxdisk/Misc/linuxdisk13.002.html
but basically, I don't think you need one.
Malke
Thanx Malke! I was misunderstood! I want to defrag windows (FAT 32) partition while i am in linux! i don't know if it's possible! Many 10x anyway!
On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:28, Adrian Costescu wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2003 01:36, Marian Routh wrote:
On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 09:57, Adrian Costescu wrote:
HAIL! I have a stupid question: Is there any disk defragmenter for windows partitions who runs on linux???
Hail back at ya. I found this url: http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/faqs/section4.html#q_4_3 and this one: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/linuxdisk/Misc/linuxdisk13.002. html
but basically, I don't think you need one.
Malke
Thanx Malke! I was misunderstood! I want to defrag windows (FAT 32) partition while i am in linux! i don't know if it's possible! Many 10x anyway! ==============
Adrian, I think you will find that if you use the defrag on Windows, you will lose your Linux. If everything is on the same drive, it's advisable not to use defrag as it does the whole driver without regard to anything else on the drive. Just another one of those things Windows likes to do to remove those other operating systems. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
BandiPat wrote:
Adrian, I think you will find that if you use the defrag on Windows, you will lose your Linux. If everything is on the same drive, it's advisable not to use defrag as it does the whole driver without regard to anything else on the drive. Just another one of those things Windows likes to do to remove those other operating systems.
Not so. The defrag programs for Windows 98 and NT (I haven't checked 95) only defragmented a single partition. So, provided linux uses separate partitions, you should be safe. It's difficult, in any case, to imagine how a defragmenter could work across partitions: they might have different filesystems (even under Windows) and you certainly don't want files moved from one partition to another. Note that Windows doesn't use the word "partition", but rather the word "drive". Presumably this goes back to M$DOS where they hadn't thought about the possibility that the two might be different. -- JDL Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit.
Thats correct. Just boot to the winblows and use c:\windows\defrag.exe
then reboot to linux.
Norton utilitys does a better job and likely someone in your local lug
can loan you a copy.
One other simple method requires pkzip which as I remember is available
for linux. Basically you do a zip recursively of the whole drive with
move option not including the system files thus cleaning out the windows
drive ; then do a pkunzip setting for whatever attangement by name
extention etc order.
in DOS :
Pkzip -Prmu h:\cdrive c:\*.*
"Make zip storing directorys(P) recursively(r) moving(m) and updating(u)"
capitolization is a must Prmu.
Pkunzip -den h:\cdrive c:\
"Restore zip contents using directory(d) structure extention(e)order
before name(n)"
I dont know if gzip has all this abilitys.
CWSIV
On Sat, 24 May 2003 07:13:35 +0100 John Lamb
BandiPat wrote:
Adrian, I think you will find that if you use the defrag on Windows, you will lose your Linux. If everything is on the same drive, it's advisable not to use defrag as it does the whole driver without regard to anything else on the drive. Just another one of those things Windows likes to do to remove those other operating systems.
Not so. The defrag programs for Windows 98 and NT (I haven't checked 95)
only defragmented a single partition. So, provided linux uses separate partitions, you should be safe.
It's difficult, in any case, to imagine how a defragmenter could work across partitions: they might have different filesystems (even under Windows) and you certainly don't want files moved from one partition to another.
Note that Windows doesn't use the word "partition", but rather the word "drive". Presumably this goes back to M$DOS where they hadn't thought about the possibility that the two might be different.
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On Sat, 24 May 2003 07:28:12 +0300
Adrian Costescu
I was misunderstood! I want to defrag windows (FAT 32) partition while i am in linux! i don't know if it's possible! Many 10x anyway! While I have not tried it, it might be possible to use the Windows defrag program under DOSEMU or WINE (or Crossover Office).
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Jerry Feldman
On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:04:35 -0400
Jerry Feldman
On Sat, 24 May 2003 07:28:12 +0300 Adrian Costescu
wrote: I was misunderstood! I want to defrag windows (FAT 32) partition while i am in linux! i don't know if it's possible! Many 10x anyway! While I have not tried it, it might be possible to use the Windows defrag program under DOSEMU or WINE (or Crossover Office).
I've been reading this thread with a thought in the back of my mind, so here goes..... Assuming you have enough free space to play with: Dosn't copying data off to another partition, formatting the windows partition, then recopying it back, reorganize the data like defrag? I guess you might loose proper booting of the windows partition, but a quick sys could fix that. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:41:07 -0400
zentara
I've been reading this thread with a thought in the back of my mind, so here goes..... Assuming you have enough free space to play with: Dosn't copying data off to another partition, formatting the windows partition, then recopying it back, reorganize the data like defrag? I guess you might loose proper booting of the windows partition, but a quick sys could fix that. Most Linux file system drivers will keep the Linux file systems defragmented, but I'm not sure that the FAT32 driver will do that. -- Jerry Feldman
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zentara wrote:
I've been reading this thread with a thought in the back of my mind, so here goes..... Assuming you have enough free space to play with: Dosn't copying data off to another partition, formatting the windows partition, then recopying it back, reorganize the data like defrag? I guess you might loose proper booting of the windows partition, but a quick sys could fix that.
This works in Linux and I've done it in Windows NT for partitions other than the C: drive. I think it's still the recommended way to defrag winNT. I think it doesn't work for the Win98 C: drive. I tried defragging an old dos partition under win4lin 5: it doesn't work. -- JDL Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit.
The 03.05.24 at 09:41, zentara wrote:
Assuming you have enough free space to play with: Dosn't copying data off to another partition, formatting the windows partition, then recopying it back, reorganize the data like defrag? I guess you might loose proper booting of the windows partition, but a quick sys could fix that.
It should work. There is no real need to reformat, just delete everything, files and dirs, except those marked +S (system) - you will need to use mattrib to detect them. This way even the C: drive can be done, and it will boot. Only it will not be "optimised" as windows defrag programs do, meaning that files will not be sorted as they do (exe files first, data files last, and such things). One last thing: use "mattrib -P" to redo windows filesystem attributes - read about it on the man page. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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Adrian Costescu
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BandiPat
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Carl William Spitzer IV
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Carlos E. R.
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Jerry Feldman
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John Lamb
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Marian Routh
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zentara