[SLE] WINDOWS NT and LINUX
i'm newbie in LINUX. my server : WINDOWS NT my workstation: LINUX 6.2 i'dont know how to link in short time would you help me? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Fakultas Teknik wrote:
i'm newbie in LINUX. my server : WINDOWS NT my workstation: LINUX 6.2 i'dont know how to link in short time would you help me?
We will be happy to help but first we will need a little more information. Is your server on a LAN or are you wanting to connect to a dialup ISP? Please supply the information and I am sure someone will be able to help you. -- Bob F EMail FBob@wt.net A Truly Wise Man Never Plays Leapfrog With A Unicorn... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
If you are going to share out space on the Linux system use Samba; included in the distribution in 'n' section. Very simple to setup. Regards, Jon On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Fakultas Teknik wrote:
i'm newbie in LINUX. my server : WINDOWS NT my workstation: LINUX 6.2 i'dont know how to link in short time would you help me?
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* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that
hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it
should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
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Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows that, at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server. For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level. Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is) Greetz, Rogier -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
There is a product called webmin that has a very easy tool for setting up Samba (mounts and printers). You can also access it over the web or your intranet. It is a very helpful tool, especially for sys admins, and even for newbies trying to get there system up and going. Check it out: http://www.webmin.com/webmin Rogier Maas wrote:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows that, at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
Rogier
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Yes I know. I've been using Webmin for about a year and a half now, and I like it. But still: each time I have to figure out how exactly to configure all the parameters. The first time, it broadcasts itself to the workgroup but has no shares, the second time it has shares but doesn't broadcast, etc. I now knoe how to configure Samba, but many (MANY) people don't. Just count the messages about Samba-problems and you'll agree. Rogier Steve Jackson wrote:
There is a product called webmin that has a very easy tool for setting up Samba (mounts and printers). You can also access it over the web or your intranet. It is a very helpful tool, especially for sys admins, and even for newbies trying to get there system up and going. Check it out:
Rogier Maas wrote:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows that, at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
Rogier
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Yes I know. I've been using Webmin for about a year and a half now, and I like it. But still: each time I have to figure out how exactly to configure all the parameters. The first time, it broadcasts itself to the workgroup but has no shares, the second time it has shares but doesn't broadcast, etc.
I now knoe how to configure Samba, but many (MANY) people don't. Just count the messages about Samba-problems and you'll agree.
Rogier
Steve Jackson wrote:
There is a product called webmin that has a very easy tool for setting up Samba (mounts and printers). You can also access it over the web or your intranet. It is a very helpful tool, especially for sys admins, and even for newbies trying to get there system up and going. Check it out:
Rogier Maas wrote:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience
shows that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't
hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and
All you need to do is read the two samba docs and edit the sample file. I did this a rank newwbie on 5.3 with only two weeks into linux. Yes it took some reading , and a few post to the list. That was before swat was even out. Once you learn to edit the file , I havent had the need to find another way do di it. I do have a couple of samba books, Samba in 24 hrs and Samba black book , a hard core samba book that gets into the nity grity including working on the windows side of it. The windows side is usealy left out , more of a learn it on the job type thing. The only real hang up I had was with the disapearing network nieborhood bug/issue , and finaly some one here figured out that you had to remove the dimmie network device , and then every thing was back working. I ended up rolling back the server till the fix came out. Now its running 6.3 , and I just use the older file and tweak it. At 01:30 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that then it
should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
Rogier
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Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows
Isent that what swat is for ? Funny , never found it when I installed the samb package from 6.3. At 12:53 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
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And still then it is hard to do. I use swat too sometimes, but even if I do it with swat (which IS easier) I sometimes have no clue why my host doesn't show up in my network neighborhood or won't let me in. It takes some time puzzling it out and after a while, I get it working, but I can imagine some users not beeing able to create a simple share. Rogier Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Isent that what swat is for ? Funny , never found it when I installed the samb package from 6.3.
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows
At 12:53 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and then it should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
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And still then it is hard to do. I use swat too sometimes, but even if I do it with swat (which IS easier) I sometimes have no clue why my host doesn't show up in my network neighborhood or won't let me in. It takes some time puzzling it out and after a while, I get it working, but I can imagine some users not beeing able to create a simple share.
Rogier
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Isent that what swat is for ? Funny , never found it when I installed the samb package from 6.3.
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows
At 12:53 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and
Are you using plian text passwords ? Some win95/98 use encrypted text paswords. You need to either diable encypted passwords or download and install the encryption stuff. econd , have you disabled the dummy network loopback device on the server ? When its enabled it can couse the network nieborhood to not show up. Sorry I cant help more , I have only two M$ boxes and the other three are 100% linux. Post more info here , ususaly someone will chime in , There are a bunch of net Admins lurking here , or go to www.samba.org and subscreibe to the mailing list. At 11:01 PM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: then it
should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
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This is exactly wat I mean: we are again trying to solve a problem with tricks&tips. This is not common knowledge, especially not with newbies. So: make the script/program. Rogier Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Are you using plian text passwords ? Some win95/98 use encrypted text paswords. You need to either diable encypted passwords or download and install the encryption stuff.
second , have you disabled the dummy network loopback device on the server ? When its enabled it can couse the network nieborhood to not show up.
Sorry I cant help more , I have only two M$ boxes and the other three are 100% linux.
Post more info here , ususaly someone will chime in , There are a bunch of net Admins lurking here , or go to www.samba.org and subscreibe to the mailing list.
And still then it is hard to do. I use swat too sometimes, but even if I do it with swat (which IS easier) I sometimes have no clue why my host doesn't show up in my network neighborhood or won't let me in. It takes some time puzzling it out and after a while, I get it working, but I can imagine some users not beeing able to create a simple share.
Rogier
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Isent that what swat is for ? Funny , never found it when I installed the samb package from 6.3.
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience shows
At 12:53 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that,
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and
At 11:01 PM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: then it
should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
Rogier
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Rogier,
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ome notes on your message, if you don't mind. First of all, please edit
your quotes in the future to include only the relevant parts, not the whole
thread. It's a waste of bandwith and peoples time to do otherwise. Please
remember that some of those on the list have to pay rather dearly for
accessing the internet and any megaquote such as yours wastes their money.
It's also good style to place your comments *after* the quote, not before.
And please also refrain from unnecessary attachments such as your vcard.
They're commonly frowned upon, specially as they're a) only readable by
persons using Netscape and b) rather useless in a mailing list such as this.
Philipp
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Hi Philipp! On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Philipp Thomas wrote:
Rogier,
And please also refrain from unnecessary attachments such as your vcard. They're commonly frowned upon, specially as they're a) only readable by persons using Netscape and b) rather useless in a mailing list such as this.
I can read vcards fine with mutt.
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This is exactly wat I mean: we are again trying to solve a problem with tricks&tips. This is not common knowledge, especially not with newbies. So: make the script/program.
Rogier
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Are you using plian text passwords ? Some win95/98 use encrypted text paswords. You need to either diable encypted passwords or download and install the encryption stuff.
second , have you disabled the dummy network loopback device on the server ? When its enabled it can couse the network nieborhood to not show up.
Sorry I cant help more , I have only two M$ boxes and the other three are 100% linux.
Post more info here , ususaly someone will chime in , There are a bunch of net Admins lurking here , or go to www.samba.org and subscreibe to the mailing list.
At 11:01 PM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote:
And still then it is hard to do. I use swat too sometimes, but even if I do it with swat (which IS easier) I sometimes have no clue why my host doesn't show up in my network neighborhood or won't let me in. It takes some time puzzling it out and after a while, I get it working, but I can imagine some users not beeing able to create a simple share.
Rogier
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Isent that what swat is for ? Funny , never found it when I installed
Yes it is not known by newbies , The plian text / encyption pronlem is well known and documented at samba.org. The dummie device intererance seems to be suse specific. Yes there should be a samba.suse.readme file that has this info in it. But how meny newbies will actualy read it. Most just install the package , grumble when it doesent work , and then the more motivated will post. I realy dont see this changing much , and the list is an appropriate place for this to be solved. It may anoy some ot the older folks who have been on the list for a while. But its part of the game so to speak. So we should chime in with the fix. If othethers hadent chimed in with our problems , we would all be looking for another os. Its part of the linux experiance , especialy the willingness to get down and dirty and help others with there problems. Linux is not M$ , and it does get ugly at times. But throwing a gui will not fix it. There are times when you realy want to and need to edit a file by hand. There are only so meny options to put in a gui with check boxes and radio buttons. Otherwise you can realy get some convaluted stuff. So text files are here to stay. Some can start real basic , and then get more comlicated as the user gets mor experiance. Samba is a good example. I am not knoledgable about Scripts and have done a little programing , so I realy can not comment if that is a solution. I think there are several network admins here that can offer some thoughts and solutions to this problem At 12:44 AM 3/31/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: the
samb package from 6.3.
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Jon Doyle (marsaro@suse.com) [20000329 09:09]:
> Very simple to setup.
Now that's an understatement if ever I saw one ;-) My experience
shows
at least for a newbie, it's not that simple to set up. But it ain't that hard either. One just has to read the available documentation and
At 12:53 AM 3/30/2000 +0200, Rogier Maas wrote: that, then it
should be fairly straight forward.
Philipp
Okay then, why doesn't SuSE make a decent Samba-setup tool/script? I think this is not hard for someone who knows samba, and I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies and sysadmins to setup a Samba-server.
For instance, when I install Samba, I just want to share a directory. Not to browse the howto's -again- and read and read. I want to tell my box what its name is, its workgroup, what directory it should share and what the sharename should be. In the 'advanced' (well, maybe not that advaned), I want to be able to specify the rights, but I'd say: RO for the default sharing permissions, permissions on share-level.
Would this be an idea for the next release? (6.5 that is)
Greetz,
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Fakultas, I have a Linux/NT network here at home. I use mostly TCP/IP and a little bit of SaMBa. http://www.samba.org/ I have set up SaMBa to run as a server, but since I don't have a lot of use for that, I have not kept up with that configuraton. If you give us more information about what you are attempting, the folks on the list will be more able to help you. Do you have NICs set up in both systems? Do they both work? Do you know how to set up a TCP/IP network? ... ? Steve Fakultas Teknik wrote:
i'm newbie in LINUX. my server : WINDOWS NT my workstation: LINUX 6.2 i'dont know how to link in short time would you help me?
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