Good day, has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU? I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional. Best regards :o)
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
Best regards :o)
Anybody now the answer to this question posed by Johhny? I am interested in the answer as well. -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso
On Mon June 2 2003 3:23 am, Basil Chupin wrote:
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
Best regards :o)
Anybody now the answer to this question posed by Johhny?
I am interested in the answer as well.
-- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
Pablo Picasso
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time. Apt-get for SuSE would update KDE to 3.1.2 from what I understand. Stan
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
[SNIP]
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time.
So, KDE 3.1.2-? may never show up in YOU? I thought KDE service releases were considered bugfixes (since fixed bugs are the only reason KDE releases them). As such I thought that all KDE service releases would show up in YOU sooner or later -- as bugfixes for SuSEs primary GUI. Best regards :o) Johnny :o)
Hello everyone, I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list. Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2. HTH, Mike On Monday 02 June 2003 03:54 pm, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
[SNIP]
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time.
So, KDE 3.1.2-? may never show up in YOU?
I thought KDE service releases were considered bugfixes (since fixed bugs are the only reason KDE releases them). As such I thought that all KDE service releases would show up in YOU sooner or later -- as bugfixes for SuSEs primary GUI.
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
Good day Michael, thank you. I am sure it works, as I have seen other postings pointing out this solution. However, I would rather not spend a lot of time updating with an inofficial and untested SuSE KDE service release now, if the same service release will show up as an officiel and tested SuSE KDE service release in YOU next week. Unfortunately Stans answer seems to say that SuSE does not nessecarily see KDE service releases as bugfixes for their primary GUI. Best regards :o) Johnny :o) Tirsdag den 3. juni 2003 05:14 kvad Michael Sacco:
Hello everyone,
I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-so urce
Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2.
HTH, Mike
On Monday 02 June 2003 03:54 pm, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
[SNIP]
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time.
So, KDE 3.1.2-? may never show up in YOU?
I thought KDE service releases were considered bugfixes (since fixed bugs are the only reason KDE releases them). As such I thought that all KDE service releases would show up in YOU sooner or later -- as bugfixes for SuSEs primary GUI.
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
On 06/03/2003 03:08 PM, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
However, I would rather not spend a lot of time updating with an inofficial and untested SuSE KDE service release now, if the same service release will show up as an officiel and tested SuSE KDE service release in YOU next week.
Unfortunately Stans answer seems to say that SuSE does not nessecarily see KDE service releases as bugfixes for their primary GUI.
AFAIK, only security related updates for KDE will show up in YOU. If this means a version upgrade, this would be available. This does not include bug fixes unless it affects security. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
On Mon June 2 2003 10:14 pm, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello everyone,
I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source
Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2.
HTH, Mike
When I attempt this I get an error: Unable to create installation source from URL 'ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/' Details: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) I've tried different directories under pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/ such as yast_source, applications, etc but they all return the same error. Any helpful clues? Thanks, Stan
I used the ftp proposed ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source and it worked! The only problem is that it deleted many of my Gnome applications and libraries! It also deleted enlightenment. (I'm doing the update using XFce). beware! On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 08:24, Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Mon June 2 2003 10:14 pm, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello everyone,
I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source
Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2.
HTH, Mike
When I attempt this I get an error:
Unable to create installation source from URL 'ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/' Details: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)
I've tried different directories under pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/ such as yast_source, applications, etc but they all return the same error.
Any helpful clues?
Thanks, Stan -- Dennis Tuchler
* Dennis Tuchler (dtuchler@earthlink.net) [030603 09:47]: ->I used the ftp proposed -> ->ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source -> ->and it worked! The only problem is that it deleted many of my Gnome ->applications and libraries! It also deleted enlightenment. (I'm doing ->the update using XFce). -> ->beware! Interesting. I use apt to update to KDE 3.1.2 and it didn't delete any of the things that your listing. Guess score one for apt. :) -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 6:24 am, Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Mon June 2 2003 10:14 pm, Michael Sacco wrote:
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source [...]
When I attempt this I get an error:
Unable to create installation source from URL 'ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/ update_for_8.2/' Details: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)
The answer seems to be "keep trying" -- if the ftp server you are trying to reach is "full", you're session will be denied [yast checks the target for some form of disk ID, which means it tries to log on right then and there] If yast cannot establish a session, it reports no file found -- keep trying [or try a less busy server/mirror] until it goes through. When performing the update, you may get the same thing when you start: a pop-up box telling you to insert the CD into the FTP source... keep retrying until you "get" a session [after which you can safely walk away until it's done] ALSO, someone mentioned this technique blew away their gnome packages -- REMEMBER to UNCHECK the box marked "delete outdated or unmaintained packages", and if truly paranoid, click the "details" button to be sure no non-SuSE packages are slated for withdrawal... - -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://osnut.homelinux.net/TomEmerson.asc iD8DBQE+3Qv0V/YHUqq2SwsRArs7AJwNOvaZKPXyfmF/XNgqBF5wVr6lAwCfXIWt mLbaitNH3hGCyEQr6QNJqtI= =TjR4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 13:58, Tom Emerson wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 6:24 am, Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Mon June 2 2003 10:14 pm, Michael Sacco wrote:
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source
[...]
When I attempt this I get an error:
Unable to create installation source from URL 'ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/KD E/ update_for_8.2/' Details: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)
The answer seems to be "keep trying" -- if the ftp server you are trying to reach is "full", you're session will be denied [yast checks the target for some form of disk ID, which means it tries to log on right then and there] If yast cannot establish a session, it reports no file found -- keep trying [or try a less busy server/mirror] until it goes through.
When performing the update, you may get the same thing when you start: a pop-up box telling you to insert the CD into the FTP source... keep retrying until you "get" a session [after which you can safely walk away until it's done]
ALSO, someone mentioned this technique blew away their gnome packages -- REMEMBER to UNCHECK the box marked "delete outdated or unmaintained packages", and if truly paranoid, click the "details" button to be sure no non-SuSE packages are slated for withdrawal...
Also remember that it seems to break the YaST Online Update; it goes into a loop on the "OK - Abandon" dialog and never recovers. The fix seems to be to revert to an older version of Qt/KDE, which I forgot until after I had done this upgrade. Oops. Mark Almeida
Just tried this and keep getting an error msg: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Have tried several ways of adding this ftp server to the list, i.e. splitting the URL across the two fields Server Name: ftp.suse.com Directory on Server: /pub/suse/..... or as just one long string on the Server Name line. Keep getting same error msg. Any ideas? K. Nesbitt -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sacco [mailto:msacco01@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:14 PM To: Johnny Ernst Nielsen; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] KDE service releases via YOU? Hello everyone, I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list. Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2. HTH, Mike On Monday 02 June 2003 03:54 pm, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
[SNIP]
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time.
So, KDE 3.1.2-? may never show up in YOU?
I thought KDE service releases were considered bugfixes (since fixed bugs are the only reason KDE releases them). As such I thought that all KDE service releases would show up in YOU sooner or later -- as bugfixes for SuSEs primary GUI.
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
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On Sunday 08 June 2003 01.20, knesbitt wrote:
Just tried this and keep getting an error msg: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Have tried several ways of adding this ftp server to the list, i.e. splitting the URL across the two fields Server Name: ftp.suse.com Directory on Server: /pub/suse/..... or as just one long string on the Server Name line. Keep getting same error msg. Any ideas?
Two ideas: use a mirror instead of ftp.suse.com, and use http instead of ftp
Are you placing this in YOU's window? It doesn't go there...From the main window of YaST, there's an option to Change Source of Installation. This is separate from YOU's choice of mirrors for updates. Not sure if that's whats going on here. HTH. On Saturday 07 June 2003 07:20 pm, knesbitt wrote:
Just tried this and keep getting an error msg: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Have tried several ways of adding this ftp server to the list, i.e. splitting the URL across the two fields Server Name: ftp.suse.com Directory on Server: /pub/suse/..... or as just one long string on the Server Name line. Keep getting same error msg. Any ideas?
K. Nesbitt
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Sacco [mailto:msacco01@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:14 PM To: Johnny Ernst Nielsen; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] KDE service releases via YOU?
Hello everyone,
I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source
Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2.
HTH, Mike <BIG SNIP>
Have it going into the "Change Source of Installation" module of YaST as a new ftp source. Have disabled others for time being. Still No luck. Getting the, ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media). Have tried a mirror and the ftp.suse site. I can see the directories and files with a browser doing an anon logon to these sites. What elce is required on the YaST lines? KN -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sacco [mailto:msacco01@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:12 PM To: knesbitt@nucleus.com; Johnny Ernst Nielsen; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] KDE service releases via YOU? Are you placing this in YOU's window? It doesn't go there...From the main window of YaST, there's an option to Change Source of Installation. This is separate from YOU's choice of mirrors for updates. Not sure if that's whats going on here. HTH. On Saturday 07 June 2003 07:20 pm, knesbitt wrote:
Just tried this and keep getting an error msg: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Have tried several ways of adding this ftp server to the list, i.e. splitting the URL across the two fields Server Name: ftp.suse.com Directory on Server: /pub/suse/..... or as just one long string on the Server Name line. Keep getting same error msg. Any ideas?
K. Nesbitt
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Sacco [mailto:msacco01@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:14 PM To: Johnny Ernst Nielsen; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] KDE service releases via YOU?
Hello everyone,
I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.
Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source
Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2.
HTH, Mike <BIG SNIP>
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On Mon June 2 2003 1:46 pm, Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Mon June 2 2003 3:23 am, Basil Chupin wrote:
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
has anyone got a feeling how long time it usually takes for a KDE service release to show up in YOU?
I'm on SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional.
Best regards :o)
Anybody now the answer to this question posed by Johhny?
I am interested in the answer as well.
-- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
Pablo Picasso
Depends on whether SuSE feels that the KDE release/update is required for the major SuSE release (8.2 for example). There is the KDE 3.1.2 update available at SuSE's various download sites but the standard update features such as SuSEWatcher and YOU don't see it as it isn't considered a required update to 8.2 at this time.
Apt-get for SuSE would update KDE to 3.1.2 from what I understand.
Stan
The real answer is in the README.txt at 'pick your favorite mirror' /pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/. Stan
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Stan Glasoe -
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Tom Emerson