[opensuse] Update Server - Very OT!!
I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K The update server the install program choose for me is in Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think may have been a better choice. I don't know what process the Novell server goes through to pick an update server but Russia???????????????/ Anyway so far its performance has been good. Greetings to all Scott
On Sunday 06 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K The update server the install program choose for me is in Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think may have been a better choice.
So what's the problem? The internet is not measured in miles. I (living in Alaska) often choose a server in Germany over one in my same timezone, because most people in Germany are asleep when I am awake, and their servers and bandwidth are less used at that time. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
In 10.2, as far as I know, you do no choose an update server. The setup tool contact a Novell server and you get one update server returned. Regards Sean John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 06 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K The update server the install program choose for me is in Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think may have been a better choice.
So what's the problem? The internet is not measured in miles.
I (living in Alaska) often choose a server in Germany over one in my same timezone, because most people in Germany are asleep when I am awake, and their servers and bandwidth are less used at that time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:16:45PM +0400, Sean Craig wrote:
In 10.2, as far as I know, you do no choose an update server. The setup tool contact a Novell server and you get one update server returned.
You can of course change the server later on, in the "Installation Source" module. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
No quite right, however it is measured in hops. Distance and remoteness often influence amount of hops. Time is the issue here and time is consumed with every hop. If it takes 30 hops to reach Germany from Alaska and only 10 to reach Japan the decisions is clear. Useful tools, if you currently don't know about, are available at www.dnsstuff.com Regards Scott John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 06 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K The update server the install program choose for me is in Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think may have been a better choice.
So what's the problem? The internet is not measured in miles.
I (living in Alaska) often choose a server in Germany over one in my same timezone, because most people in Germany are asleep when I am awake, and their servers and bandwidth are less used at that time.
Hi, I don't think this is OT at all. If update server addresses are dished out in a round-robin fashion this might distribute the load, but is far from optimal. Surely there is a more intelligent method based on the originating IP range? If web servers can generate country-specific statistics then this should be possible. My 0.02c Regards Sean Registration Account wrote:
I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K The update server the install program choose for me is in Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think may have been a better choice. I don't know what process the Novell server goes through to pick an update server but Russia???????????????/ Anyway so far its performance has been good. Greetings to all Scott
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On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:13:35PM +0400, Sean Craig wrote:
Hi,
I don't think this is OT at all. If update server addresses are dished out in a round-robin fashion this might distribute the load, but is far from optimal. Surely there is a more intelligent method based on the originating IP range? If web servers can generate country-specific statistics then this should be possible.
It is done using the timezone you specify in the installer, and a circle around it. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
How big is this circle? I'm based in the Middle East, and have gotten update servers from Russia, UK, Aus - that's a very big circle! Regards Sean Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:13:35PM +0400, Sean Craig wrote:
Hi,
I don't think this is OT at all. If update server addresses are dished out in a round-robin fashion this might distribute the load, but is far from optimal. Surely there is a more intelligent method based on the originating IP range? If web servers can generate country-specific statistics then this should be possible.
It is done using the timezone you specify in the installer, and a circle around it.
Ciao, Marcus
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Sean Craig <sean@csi-emea.com> writes:
How big is this circle? I'm based in the Middle East, and have gotten update servers from Russia, UK, Aus - that's a very big circle!
It depends on how many servers are in your area, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Sean Craig wrote:
How big is this circle? I'm based in the Middle East, and have gotten update servers from Russia, UK, Aus - that's a very big circle!
I believe the radius is only 20,000 km. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
|-----Original Message----- |From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:meissner@suse.de] |> I don't think this is OT at all. If update server addresses are |> dished out in a round-robin fashion this might distribute the load, |> but is far from optimal. Surely there is a more intelligent method |> based on the originating IP range? If web servers can generate |> country-specific statistics then this should be possible. | |It is done using the timezone you specify in the installer, |and a circle around it. | Wouldn't it be better to test the ring for latency or TTL? Just measure a wget download of a specific file from varous sources and choose the one with the lowest latency. This can be done in 50 lines of scripting. The testing time is saved by the first download. -- Morten Bjørnsvik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Op Monday 07 May 2007 11:55:37 schreef Morten Bjørnsvik:
|-----Original Message----- |From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:meissner@suse.de] | |> I don't think this is OT at all. If update server addresses are |> dished out in a round-robin fashion this might distribute the load, |> but is far from optimal. Surely there is a more intelligent method |> based on the originating IP range? If web servers can generate |> country-specific statistics then this should be possible. | |It is done using the timezone you specify in the installer, |and a circle around it.
Wouldn't it be better to test the ring for latency or TTL?
Just measure a wget download of a specific file from varous sources and choose the one with the lowest latency. This can be done in 50 lines of scripting. The testing time is saved by the first download.
Or use netselect: http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/netselect.html It's made to determine the fastest (download) server. -- Richard Bos We are borrowing the world of our children, It is not inherited from our parents. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (8)
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Andreas Jaeger
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James Knott
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John Andersen
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Marcus Meissner
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Morten Bjørnsvik
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Registration Account
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Richard Bos
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Sean Craig