[opensuse] questions related to KDE4 in opensuse 11.1
Hello suse users: I started experiencing with KDE4 in opensuse 11.1. I am not very amazed, to say the least. Right now I would like to know how to do some basic things (at least basic in KDE3) in kde4: 1. How can I hide the panel? How can I add hide buttons to the panel? 2. How can I place/mount removable devices, as USB flashdisk, floppy etc onto the desktop as before? 3. I do not like the 'kickoff' start menu so I always switch to the older mode. How can I add the recently used option there? Why can not I add application icons to the desktop and panel from this menu? 4. How can I set the font size of the digital clock in the panel? The fonts of the date are just too small. In KDE3 it was easy to set the size both of the time and of the date, independently. 5. How can I set the panel style (background, transparency, applets handlers visible etc.)? In KDE3 almost everything can be adjusted. 6. I dont like the blue start menu icon with le left arrow, how can I change it to the conventional suse start menu icon? For now it seem to me that KDE4 is more like gnome than classical (very nice, polished and useable) KDE3. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello suse users:
I started experiencing with KDE4 in opensuse 11.1. I am not very amazed, to say the least. Right now I would like to know how to do some basic things (at least basic in KDE3) in kde4:
1. How can I hide the panel? How can I add hide buttons to the panel? 2. How can I place/mount removable devices, as USB flashdisk, floppy etc onto the desktop as before? 3. I do not like the 'kickoff' start menu so I always switch to the older mode. How can I add the recently used option there? Why can not I add application icons to the desktop and panel from this menu? 4. How can I set the font size of the digital clock in the panel? The fonts of the date are just too small. In KDE3 it was easy to set the size both of the time and of the date, independently. 5. How can I set the panel style (background, transparency, applets handlers visible etc.)? In KDE3 almost everything can be adjusted. 6. I dont like the blue start menu icon with le left arrow, how can I change it to the conventional suse start menu icon?
For now it seem to me that KDE4 is more like gnome than classical (very nice, polished and useable) KDE3.
Start here: http://help.opensuse.org/kde4/ Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor schrieb:
Hello suse users:
I started experiencing with KDE4 in opensuse 11.1. I am not very amazed, to say the least. Right now I would like to know how to do some basic things (at least basic in KDE3) in kde4:
1. How can I hide the panel? How can I add hide buttons to the panel? 2. How can I place/mount removable devices, as USB flashdisk, floppy etc onto the desktop as before? 3. I do not like the 'kickoff' start menu so I always switch to the older mode. How can I add the recently used option there? Why can not I add application icons to the desktop and panel from this menu? 4. How can I set the font size of the digital clock in the panel? The fonts of the date are just too small. In KDE3 it was easy to set the size both of the time and of the date, independently. 5. How can I set the panel style (background, transparency, applets handlers visible etc.)? In KDE3 almost everything can be adjusted. 6. I dont like the blue start menu icon with le left arrow, how can I change it to the conventional suse start menu icon?
Many of you questions are answered here: cid:part1.04060307.00050208@opensuse.orghttp://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/guide.php Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thank you all for answering. Basil, Herbert: I could not find answers related to my questions in the documents you suggested. Maybe I have to look through them more thoroughly. jdd: Your answer confirms what I thought: basic functions don't work in kde4. For me panel hiding option is a must have, as well as functional old style menu. I think the problem is not kde4 itself, but that openSUSE incorporates it while it is still in an unpolished, less functional development state. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Your answer confirms what I thought: basic functions don't work in kde4. For me panel hiding option is a must have, as well as functional old style menu. I think the problem is not kde4 itself, but that openSUSE incorporates it while it is still in an unpolished, less functional development state.
Ummm.. panel hiding works fine here for me. A VERY important question... have you updated to KDE4.2? or are you still typing to use 4.1 as released on the DVDs? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Your answer confirms what I thought: basic functions don't work in kde4. For me panel hiding option is a must have, as well as functional old style menu. I think the problem is not kde4 itself, but that openSUSE incorporates it while it is still in an unpolished, less functional development state.
Ummm.. panel hiding works fine here for me.
A VERY important question... have you updated to KDE4.2? or are you still typing to use 4.1 as released on the DVDs?
C.
Do your mean that your have panel hiding buttons at the edges of the panel? Or you mean automatic panel hiding? I still have kde from the official openSUSE 11.1 DVD. But consider, this is the 'official' stable release that is supposed to operate flawlessly. Frankly I think this is the most unstable and worst suse release regarding the desktop I've met so far. I found kde4 packages only in factory and unstable repos. It was never necessary before to update anything from an unstable or factory repo to work fine. I am reluctant to do it and if I did probably I would face many other bugs. I also found that kde4 panel is very unstable. It just rearranges the plaaement of the icons on it between logins even if I do not touch them. If I try to place the icons myself it becomes a complete mess. Practically it is unusable. I too do not understand why my start menu icon became a blue colored left arrow instead of the gecko icon. Creating a new user results in a gecko start menu icon. I have removed everything from my home folder, all the files and directories including hidden files and directories (logging from the console window, not in kde). After logging in every desktop element was recreated from scratch except the start menu icon which remained the blue arrow. I can't understand it. All in all I do not understand, really, why suse had to put kde4 as the core kde system instead of kde3 which is mature, stable and polished and also looks beautiful. The look of suse's default kde4 is just simply ugly. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 01 February 2009 10:11:00 Istvan Gabor wrote:
Do your mean that your have panel hiding buttons at the edges of the panel? Or you mean automatic panel hiding? I still have kde from the official openSUSE 11.1 DVD. But consider, this is the 'official' stable release that is supposed to operate flawlessly. Frankly I think this is the most unstable and worst suse release regarding the desktop I've met so far.
Keep in mind that KDE != SuSE. When I had problems with an 11.1 desktop machine running KDE 4.2, I changed to Gnome to see if that would make a difference. Indeed, it did, and I was able to do everything I needed to do. Since *applications* matter most to me, not GUIs, and my applications run just as well in a Gnome session as they do in a KDE session (or better), I'm not worried about the present KDE problems. It's great that we have a choice like this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Jerry Houston