Op zondag 14 juni 2020 02:59:30 CEST schreef David C. Rankin:

On 06/13/2020 07:55 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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All,

I always forget -- when I install a pre-release like 15.2, when I want

updates do I 'zypper up' or 'zypper dup'?

Nevermind -- zypper up seems to be working fine -- 400M of updates... It does mind. Although the result this time can be the same, 15.2 needs 'dup' during the pre-release stages.

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On 06/13/2020 08:17 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

David C. Rankin composed on 2020-06-13 19:55 (UTC-0500):

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I always forget -- when I install a pre-release like 15.2, when I want updates do I 'zypper up' or 'zypper dup'?

Same as with TW. You can up as a starting point, such as if wishing to segregate the more significant changes, but you better follow-up with dup before you reboot.

OK Felix, Will do that on next boot. Took hours longer than it should have to finish the 15.2 install. I'd be working in yast, have a set of packages selected, then [Accept] only to have 1 or more fail (not found in the repository -- even though yast software management listed the package to install...) Obviously a new package has replaced one I selected in the time I was choosing packages causing the whole setup to fail. The packages were cached and yast did ask to complete the install once software management was opened again. I thought this was a one-off, but no... I had this happen 3-4 times and the problem is it wastes the entire time you spent selecting packages, because while yast will ask to install the packages that FAILED, it doesn't preserve the list of packages that were successfully downloaded and cached in preparation for the install -- requiring you to pick though the package list once again an select what you wanted to install again. Not bad when it's just a couple of packages, but a real PITA when you are installing a complete desktop and selecting the packages you want and omitting what you don't. Also we ended up in 'texlive-hell' again. Some package had a stray texlive dependency, so yast selected all 2224 texlive packages from OSS, a whopping 1G+ of texlive and millions of fonts to pollute your font selection combo-box each time you need to select a font. (thankfully, next trip through I avoided the dependency, but that left over 1G of texlive packages cached under /var/cache/zypp/packages/OSS that do not go away -- even between boots) That behavior must be related to the install failure because I recall /var/cache/zypp/packages being cleared on reboot unless the --keep-packages flag is set in the .repo file.... But 15.2 is installed, Fluxbox, IceWM, and KDE3 all working wonderfully (aside from the currently open Embedded Advanced Text Editor (katepart) that disappeared between builds 215.9 and 216.1 somewhere around May 20 (for all releases) -- dunno on that one. I'll finish the 15.2 shakedown next week. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [06-14-20 07:25]:

On 14/06/2020 02.55, David C. Rankin wrote:

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All,

I always forget -- when I install a pre-release like 15.2, when I want updates do I 'zypper up' or 'zypper dup'?

Same as in factory aka tumbleweed. Always zypper dup. A zypper up may leave you with a broken system.

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