still using 11.1 -x64 with the latest kde3. tried to install knemo using yast. it showed 3 options: knemo, kde3-knemo and kde4-knemo. first tried the plain knemo, ver 0.4.8.0. when i type knemo on a console, nothing seems to happen and the console is ready for the next input. there is a user process started and there are no error messages. but there is no app window. retyping the command brings out the message "knemo already running", but how does one see it? Exactly the same thing happens when i try kde3-knemo 0.4.8.1 and kde4-knemo 0.5.1.0. when going from basic knemo to kde3-knemo yast first removes knemo, but nothing else is removed when other permutations are tried. the debug-info package is installed, nothing shows up in /var/log/messages, but nothing seems to show anywhere. googling for this always clearly shows a gui interface, where does one find it? Am i supposed to install anything else that was missed by yast? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org