[opensuse] Please help with Suse 10.2 install
I am a pretty new Linux administrator, and after repeated tries have not been able to install Suse 10.2 on my fairly old (~4-5 years old) IBM eServer xSeries 200 (which seems to be on the supported list, but I'm not sure). When I install Windows, any version, there's no problem -- mouse, keyboard, CD, connection to Internet -- everything works fine. I once successfully installed Caldera Linux and again all the peripherals seemed to work fine. But when I boot to the Suse Install CD 1, the menu shows up but the keyboard and mouse don't work. SO, I tried booting to the non-graphical install on the same CD. And I've tried every option -- linux, noacpi, nolapic, failsafe, memtest. Each time, it displays "Loading linux .." Just those two dots and then -- nothing happens. I've looked but have not found a lot of information on troubleshooting a Suse installation, aside from the suggestion to try the non-graphical installation. Is there some way to install Suse Linux from Windows? Or, other suggestions? TIA, Emily Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Is there some way to install Suse Linux from Windows?
You can install 10.2 on VM under Windows - VMware or VirtualPC 2004.
Or, other suggestions?
Try other type of mouse/keyboard (try to switch from PS/2 ot USB or vice-versa). On my 4 Home systems it just works, with both of those. Try to get a different SUSE CD media and/or CD-ROM device. (can be external) I also run 10.2 on HP proliant server, and it works there too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tirsdag 30 januar 2007 22:06 skrev Alexey Eremenko:
Is there some way to install Suse Linux from Windows?
You can install 10.2 on VM under Windows - VMware or VirtualPC 2004.
Or, other suggestions?
Try other type of mouse/keyboard (try to switch from PS/2 ot USB or vice-versa). On my 4 Home systems it just works, with both of those. Try to get a different SUSE CD media and/or CD-ROM device. (can be external)
I also run 10.2 on HP proliant server, and it works there too.
You shouldn't have any problems of the kind you report. I actually believe you may have a hw problem of some kind. Try another keyboard, not USB. Try another mouse, use a standard PS/2 type. Check the BIOS settings, anything odd there? You may run into trouble with the disks, in particular if the box has some kind of RAID-controller, but that's another story that we'll deal with if it arrives. One last hint; try booting the box with a Knoppix CD. This may give you a few hints too... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Denmark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for your suggestions. Some additional questions embedded below... At 10:22 PM 1/30/2007 +0100, Verner =?utf-8?q?Kj=C3=A6rsgaard?= wrote:
You shouldn't have any problems of the kind you report.
I actually believe you may have a hw problem of some kind. Try another keyboard, not USB. Try another mouse, use a standard PS/2 type.
I have tried several keyboards, all PS/2. I've tried several mice, all PS/2. I will try USB, but don't have any of those at hand at the moment. What's weird is that the thing hangs in the non-graphical mode as well, although it does recognize the keyboard in non-graphical mode.
Check the BIOS settings, anything odd there?
What would be weird/what should I be looking for?
You may run into trouble with the disks, in particular if the box has some kind of RAID-controller, but that's another story that we'll deal with if it arrives.
One last hint; try booting the box with a Knoppix CD. This may give you a few hints too...
Will do. Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Interesting. With the Knoppix CD, which reads fine from Windows on the target PC, when I boot to the CD, it gives me the splash screen, I press Enter to load Knoppix and -- I get the one cursor flashing in the top left hand corner. So, I guess it's not a hard drive issue, since Knoppix doesn't use the hard drive, right? And, both Suse and Knoppix are reading enough of the CD to be able to display the install menu/splash screen, which look ok, so it's not the graphics driver, probably. So, that leaves -- ??? the CPU? not RAM, or could it be? The reason I was aiming for Suse is that my Novell 5.12 server (yes, old, I know, but reliable and has been for years), is starting to sound very squeaky. So, my goal was to add a Suse server to my network, transfer all the data, and return the 5.12 server. That's not looking likely with this particular hardware device, huh? Sigh. -- Emily At 10:22 PM 1/30/2007 +0100, Verner =?utf-8?q?Kj=C3=A6rsgaard?= wrote:
... One last hint; try booting the box with a Knoppix CD. This may give you a few hints too...
Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue January 30 2007 22:34, Emily Berk wrote: <snip>
That's not looking likely with this particular hardware device, huh? Sigh.
Hi Emily, A quick Google on "Linux IBM eServer xSeries 200" reveals some models were certified by Novell for SLES 8 (circa June 2004): see http://developer.novell.com/yes/75367.htm You should continue this line of research by expanding/revising search terms to include various details like mainboard & chipset to see if others have posted a solution for this problem. I recently tackled a system that the 10.2 installer failed to boot despite trying all parameters and combinations thereof. My Knoppix mini CD also failed. After 'Googling' various combinations of "Linux " + the precise mainboard and chipset model numbers, I discovered many, many threads describing the same problem. I eventually uncovered one where the OP, after a very long trial and error session, successfully booted it with a "Frenzy BSD 1.0" live CD. I downloaded the CD image, burned a copy, tried booting with it and the system quickly launched to a working desktop. The story stops here because I haven't yet figured out how to get 10.2 installed. It seems to be possible, theoretically, but it needs more research and troubleshooting. Good luck! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2007/1/31, Carl Hartung <suselinux@cehartung.com>:
The story stops here because I haven't yet figured out how to get 10.2 installed. It seems to be possible, theoretically, but it needs more research and troubleshooting.
One posibility is to install minimal opensuse 10.2 system on another computer and make a snapshot of the installed system with tar, put on webserver or burn that on CD. On target comp use some live linux distro that works to partition HD, make filesystems and copy snapshot on the freshly formated partitions. You can then chroot to new system and run yast->bootloader to install grub, so that machine can boot. If 'Frenzy BSD' has grub, you can use it to install bootloader, otherwise I have no idea how to install bootloader. If your livecd has rpm and yum or apt-rpm, you can install base system from livecd directly. Yust put 10.2 sources to /etc/yum.conf and install with yum --installroot=/your/new/system install aaa_base yast and it should install a minimal suse system on /your/new/system. Good luck, Martin sorry carl for double posting :-] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed January 31 2007 10:53, Martin Vuk wrote:
One posibility is to install minimal opensuse 10.2 system on another computer and make a snapshot of the installed system with tar, put on webserver or burn that on CD.
On target comp use some live linux distro that works to partition HD, make filesystems and copy snapshot on the freshly formated partitions. You can then chroot to new system and run yast->bootloader to install grub, so that machine can boot.
If 'Frenzy BSD' has grub, you can use it to install bootloader, otherwise I have no idea how to install bootloader.
If your livecd has rpm and yum or apt-rpm, you can install base system from livecd directly. Yust put 10.2 sources to /etc/yum.conf and install with yum --installroot=/your/new/system install aaa_base yast and it should install a minimal suse system on /your/new/system.
Hi Martin and thanks for your input. I've had to put that project on the back burner but I'll keep your suggestions in mind the next time I look at it. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Emily Berk wrote:
I am a pretty new Linux administrator, and after repeated tries have not been able to install Suse 10.2 on my fairly old (~4-5 years old) IBM eServer xSeries 200 (which seems to be on the supported list, but I'm not sure).
When I install Windows, any version, there's no problem -- mouse, keyboard, CD, connection to Internet -- everything works fine. I once successfully installed Caldera Linux and again all the peripherals seemed to work fine.
But when I boot to the Suse Install CD 1, the menu shows up but the keyboard and mouse don't work.
SO, I tried booting to the non-graphical install on the same CD. And I've tried every option -- linux, noacpi, nolapic, failsafe, memtest.
Here are two options that helped to get the install started on my old primergy: maxcpus=0 acpi=debug Hope it helps. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Alexey Eremenko
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