Hello Robert Thanks for your reply, but the standard SuSE kernels are precompiled with APM support. The thing is, the kapmidled thread makes sure the kernel sends HLT instructions when the CPU is idle... that should keep it cool. I think the windows utility is doing something else, something athlon specific ("athlon forced cooling")... but I don't know what, and how to reproduce it on Linux... Anyhow, 55°C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running... Kind regards Guy ---------------------------------- Hi, If I'm correct, you can re-compile your kernel with APM (Advanced Power Management) on and don't forget to switch the "Do CPU Idle calls" on. This should reduce your CPU temperature as sections of it switch off when they get idle calls. Can someone confirm this?
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
Anyhow, 55°C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running... According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum temperatures are K6 70°C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70°C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70°C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65°C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65°C (Case) Duron 90°C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90°C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95°C (Core) 1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95°C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55°C is quite tame :-) -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:40, you wrote:
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
Anyhow, 55°C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running...
According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum temperatures are K6 70°C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70°C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70°C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65°C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65°C (Case) Duron 90°C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90°C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95°C (Core)
1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95°C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55°C is quite tame :-)
Mine is running between 55 and 65°C following the room temperature but I don't know who to trust. My vendor says it is ok (we changed the fan once because it was reaching 70°C).. So according to this sheet, the temperature is ok, but where did you get thoses informations? Ju. -- Julien Biezemans jb@jbpros.com http://www.jbpros.com/
hey guys,
Hear this and remember this; "Heat is the most
silent deadly enemy of your processor". So the cooler
you can run your processor the longer it will last
because heat breaks down transistors inside the
processor.
Just my 2 cents,
--- Julien Biezemans
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:40, you wrote:
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
Anyhow, 55�C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running...
According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum temperatures are K6 70�C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70�C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65�C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70�C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70�C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65�C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65�C (Case) Duron 90�C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90�C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95�C (Core)
1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95�C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55�C is quite tame :-)
Mine is running between 55 and 65�C following the room temperature but I don't know who to trust. My vendor says it is ok (we changed the fan once because it was reaching 70�C).. So according to this sheet, the temperature is ok, but where did you get thoses informations?
Ju.
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On Tuesday 19 June 2001 00:53, Moe wrote:
hey guys,
Hear this and remember this; "Heat is the most silent deadly enemy of your processor". So the cooler you can run your processor the longer it will last because heat breaks down transistors inside the processor. I agree ... if you are an overclocking fanatic perhaps a vat of liquid nitrogen would suite you ;-)
-- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:53, you wrote:
hey guys,
Hear this and remember this; "Heat is the most silent deadly enemy of your processor". So the cooler you can run your processor the longer it will last because heat breaks down transistors inside the processor.
Yep I got it! But when can I tell me "ok boy, we reached an affordable temperature, just keep it going on at this level and we'll live together for a looooong time?" :) I mean I'm not an hardware fanatic at all and being aware of my processor temperature is something which bugs me, actually. I would like to *fix* and not have to keep being aware of it in the future (well not really, I'm not stupid, I'll always check if everything is ok). So when should I be scared, what's the "critical" level to start thinking about better solutions? (I could install stuffs to get the temperature down to -25�C but it would cost much money, which is not possible too) I know this all is a bit "subjective" but I would like to have experts advice as I don't know much in this domain... Thank you! Ju.
Just my 2 cents,
--- Julien Biezemans
wrote: On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:40, you wrote:
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden
wrote:
Anyhow, 55�C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be
running...
According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum
temperatures are
K6 70�C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70�C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65�C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70�C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65�C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70�C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65�C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65�C (Case) Duron 90�C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90�C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95�C (Core)
1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95�C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55�C is quite tame :-)
Mine is running between 55 and 65�C following the room temperature but I don't know who to trust. My vendor says it is ok (we changed the fan once because it was reaching 70�C).. So according to this sheet, the temperature is ok, but where did you get thoses informations?
Ju.
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On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:05, Julien Biezemans wrote:
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:53, you wrote: I mean I'm not an hardware fanatic at all and being aware of my processor temperature is something which bugs me, actually. I would like to *fix* and not have to keep being aware of it in the future (well not really, I'm not stupid, I'll always check if everything is ok).
If your machine is stable and the BIOS does not complain about it then I would forget it (IMHO). -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
being aware of my processor temperature is something which bugs me
It's hot here : ambient 40 deg C [ abt 105 deg F] . . . have Case permanently off Box ~ with 12 inch Fan aimed at Mobo, all OK :) { without big fan, my AMD K6/2 cpu suffers phreak_out} -- best wishes --- ____________ sent on Linux ____________
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 07:25, tabanna wrote:
being aware of my processor temperature is something which bugs me
It's hot here : ambient 40 deg C [ abt 105 deg F]
. . . have Case permanently off Box ~ with 12 inch Fan aimed at Mobo, all OK :) { without big fan, my AMD K6/2 cpu suffers phreak_out}
My 550MHz K6-2 runs at (~30°C CPU/~60°C Case) the only real problem I have is with the Hard Disks overheating (this is a common cause of Windows crashes apparently). This is despite having a 300W ATX Full Tower Case with two 12V 8" case fans and removable HDD caddies with fans. When the abient room temperature is cool then Windows is stable, but with the hot weather we are having at the mo I am lucky to get past the login screen! Linux on the otherhand just smiles and beavers away quite happily :-) Regards, Roger -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 01:19, Roger L.S.Griffiths BSc (Hons) wrote:
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 07:25, tabanna wrote: My 550MHz K6-2 runs at (~30°C CPU/~60°C Case) the only real problem I have is with the Hard Disks overheating (this is a common cause of Windows crashes apparently). This is despite having a 300W ATX Full Tower Case with two 12V 8" case fans and removable HDD caddies with fans. Ooops!!!! I meant 8cm fans :-)
TTFN Roger -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 18:50, you wrote:
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 01:19, Roger L.S.Griffiths BSc (Hons) wrote:
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 07:25, tabanna wrote: My 550MHz K6-2 runs at (~30°C CPU/~60°C Case) the only real problem I have is with the Hard Disks overheating (this is a common cause of Windows crashes apparently). This is despite having a 300W ATX Full Tower Case with two 12V 8" case fans and removable HDD caddies with fans.
Ooops!!!! I meant 8cm fans :-)
LOL I thought you bought a wheelbarrow to mount your computer ;-))) Ju.
TTFN
Roger
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 00:49, Julien Biezemans wrote:
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 01:40, you wrote:
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
Anyhow, 55°C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running...
According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum temperatures are K6 70°C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70°C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70°C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65°C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65°C (Case) Duron 90°C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90°C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95°C (Core)
1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95°C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55°C is quite tame :-)
Mine is running between 55 and 65°C following the room temperature but I don't know who to trust. My vendor says it is ok (we changed the fan once because it was reaching 70°C).. So according to this sheet, the temperature is ok, but where did you get thoses informations? Various Data Sheets from AMD's Website 20695H/0 K6 21850J/0 K6-2 21918B/0 K6-III 21026M Athlon Module ... (ie Slot A) 23802I Duron (v3) 23792I Athlon (v4) ... (ie Socket A) 24685B Athlon (v6) ... (ie Athlon MP)
Regards -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 00:40, Roger L.S.Griffiths BSc (Hons) wrote:
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
Anyhow, 55°C is too hot for an AMD CPU to be running...
According to AMD's Data Sheets the maximum temperatures are K6 70°C (Case) 2.2V <=380MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 60°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-2 AFR 70°C (Case) 2.2V >=450MHz K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.3V 550MHz K6-2 70°C (Case) 2.4V K6-2 65°C (Case) 2.2V 400MHz K6-III 70°C (Case) 2.2V 450MHz K6-III 65°C (Case) 2.4V K6-III 65°C (Case) Duron 90°C (Core) <=1GHz Athlon 90°C (Core)
=1.1Ghz Athlon 95°C (Core) 1GHz/1.2GHz Athlon MP 95°C (Core)
So for an Athlon 55°C is quite tame :-) If your concerened about cooling issues you could check out "AMD Thermal, Mechanical and Chassis Cooling Design Guide" (order #23794) or check out guidlines on their website (http://www.amd.com).
Regards -- Roger L.S. Griffiths, BSc (Hons) Gott würfelt nicht (God does not play dice) - Albert Einstein
participants (5)
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Guy Van Sanden
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Julien Biezemans
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Moe
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Roger L.S.Griffiths BSc
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tabanna