-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have been setting up a new laptop for a friend. It came with W10 Prof, and I added Leap 15.2. The curious thing is that Windows says my WiFi is insecure, and warns about it full time, but Linux doesn't say a word. Or Android. What is wrong about that WiFi, did I goof somewhere, or is it simply too old a router? Network manager says (copying by hand) that it is using WPA/WPA2 minas-tirith:~ # iwconfig wlan0 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"...." Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: F8:... Bit Rate=65 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality=70/70 Signal level=-38 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:56 Missed beacon:0 eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions. minas-tirith:~ # The router itself says "WPA-PSK" and TKIP encryption. The offerings are: open shared 802.1X WPA WPA-PSK WPA2 WPA2-PSK Mixed WPA2/WPA Mixed WPA2/WPA-PSK it offers encryption to TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES I'm changing to "WPA2-PSK" (Default to AES encryption) (128 bit). WPS (button) is enabled. Suggestions? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCX1tdyBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVjWUAn1wBUXrTYIsMMihHzcqe x0Efawa6AJ9Wp1IUCSn2+mvkUTIFmJgrQKNISQ== =xauw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/11/20 7:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
it offers encryption to TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES
I'm changing to "WPA2-PSK" (Default to AES encryption) (128 bit).
That is what you want. The exact terminology varies a bit with manufacturers. However, these days you don't want to use anything less than WPA2. On home/small office WiFi, you normally use PSK. In larger networks, you'd use a RADIUUS server or other authentication method to connect. WPA is an older, interim method and WPA3 is now available, but a lot of gear doesn't support it yet. 802.11n and later requires WPA2 or better. What did you have before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access#WPA2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/11/20 7:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
it offers encryption to TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES
I'm changing to "WPA2-PSK" (Default to AES encryption) (128 bit).
Using TKIP seems to generate that warning in recent W10 versions. Had it with my son's wifi too. Changing to AES solved it.
That is what you want. The exact terminology varies a bit with manufacturers. However, these days you don't want to use anything less than WPA2. On home/small office WiFi, you normally use PSK. In larger networks, you'd use a RADIUUS server or other authentication method to connect. WPA is an older, interim method and WPA3 is now available, but a lot of gear doesn't support it yet. 802.11n and later requires WPA2 or better. What did you have before?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access#WPA2
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On 11/09/2020 14.53, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 7:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
it offers encryption to TKIP, AES, and TKIP+AES
I'm changing to "WPA2-PSK" (Default to AES encryption) (128 bit).
That is what you want. The exact terminology varies a bit with manufacturers. However, these days you don't want to use anything less than WPA2. On home/small office WiFi, you normally use PSK. In larger networks, you'd use a RADIUUS server or other authentication method to connect. WPA is an older, interim method and WPA3 is now available, but a lot of gear doesn't support it yet. 802.11n and later requires WPA2 or better. What did you have before?
Before I had "WPA-PSK with TKIP encryption". I changed to "WPA2-PSK with AES encryption" (I did not try "WPA-PSK with AES encryption" as ldb@ suggests). Now W10 does not complain, but it seems I may have to write the password again on all my wifi aware devices, despite it being the same... Some pain.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/11/20 12:39 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Before I had "WPA-PSK with TKIP encryption"
Yep, that would do it. It would also keep you from using 802.11n, as it requires WPA2. You may find your performance has improved, as you will be running n, instead of g. BTW, I have my AP configured for 802.11n only. Every device I have can connect with n. WiFi supports backwards compatibility for the modes it's configured for. If g is present, it will send the headers at the g rate and the rest of the data at n. Hopefully, you don't have any b devices near by, as that causes a huge performance hit, as the g & n devices have to send an entire frame, advising b devices of how long the channel will be occupied, before sending the g or n frame. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/09/2020 18.48, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 12:39 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Before I had "WPA-PSK with TKIP encryption"
Yep, that would do it. It would also keep you from using 802.11n, as it requires WPA2. You may find your performance has improved, as you will be running n, instead of g.
I'll look. I think I got 56Mbit nominal "before".
BTW, I have my AP configured for 802.11n only. Every device I have can connect with n. WiFi supports backwards compatibility for the modes it's configured for. If g is present, it will send the headers at the g rate and the rest of the data at n. Hopefully, you don't have any b devices near by, as that causes a huge performance hit, as the g & n devices have to send an entire frame, advising b devices of how long the channel will be occupied, before sending the g or n frame.
I don't know, I have some old WiFi devices around. I hope they all keep working. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/11/20 1:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know, I have some old WiFi devices around. I hope they all keep working.
Set it to n and see if anything fails. But if b devices fail, I'd say toss them, as they're ancient, are slowing your network and likely won't work with WPA2. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/09/2020 19.37, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 1:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know, I have some old WiFi devices around. I hope they all keep working.
Set it to n and see if anything fails. But if b devices fail, I'd say toss them, as they're ancient, are slowing your network and likely won't work with WPA2.
I have an old Android 4 tablet, which now is a clock :-D I have an old Samsung phone, which I don't use. Only for emergencies. I should wipe it out before it fails to boot. But I have a Kobo touch epub reader which I do not want to replace. I'm in the process of installing a new battery. I can not power it up now to check. I'll try to keep your advice in memory, thanks :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/11/20 1:46 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have an old Android 4 tablet, which now is a clock :-D
I have an old Samsung phone, which I don't use. Only for emergencies. I should wipe it out before it fails to boot.
But I have a Kobo touch epub reader which I do not want to replace. I'm in the process of installing a new battery. I can not power it up now to check.
My Google Nexus 1 works with n, though I haven't used it in years. I have a Kobo reader too, but I also haven't used it in years, as I much prefer reading books on my Android tablet. I also found that Kobo to be very slow, black and white only and I had to use Windows to download books from the library and then copy them over to the reader. With my tablet I can download them directly. The tablet just works much better. Also, support has ended for the readers and Kobo is now recommending their apps instead. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/09/2020 19.57, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 1:46 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have an old Android 4 tablet, which now is a clock :-D
I have an old Samsung phone, which I don't use. Only for emergencies. I should wipe it out before it fails to boot.
But I have a Kobo touch epub reader which I do not want to replace. I'm in the process of installing a new battery. I can not power it up now to check.
My Google Nexus 1 works with n, though I haven't used it in years. I have a Kobo reader too, but I also haven't used it in years, as I much prefer reading books on my Android tablet. I also found that Kobo to be very slow, black and white only and I had to use Windows to download books from the library and then copy them over to the reader. With my tablet I can download them directly. The tablet just works much better. Also, support has ended for the readers and Kobo is now recommending their apps instead.
I find the epaper much more comfortable on my eyes, without backlight. I have never tried to use the thing with my library, I have no idea if they have anything like that here. I buy books from Kobo and they download directly to the device via WiFi. Yes, it is slow, but that's fine, I don't need to move the pages, just flip one at a time. It is the display itself which is slow, not really the device. I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/11/20 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same.
https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019690433-Products-no-longer-manu... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/09/2020 20.39, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same.
https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019690433-Products-no-longer-manu...
I thought they dropped the ereaders entirely. There is a list there of ereaders that continue being supported. Mine is probably not supported (unsure, can't look the model number). That may mean (will test when I finally connect the battery) that it can not sync via wifi, or via use to the Windows application. Sigh. But maybe it will continue working via the Adobe tool in windows, which is more nuisance. I wonder if somebody makes an ereader with a battery that can be replaced with a click... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am 13.09.2020 um 20:00 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 11/09/2020 20.39, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same.
https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019690433-Products-no-longer-manu...
I thought they dropped the ereaders entirely. There is a list there of ereaders that continue being supported.
Mine is probably not supported (unsure, can't look the model number). That may mean (will test when I finally connect the battery) that it can not sync via wifi, or via use to the Windows application. Sigh.
Have you tried calibre? I've been using ereaders for ... dunno, 7 years or more now, and so far calibre has surpassed every single ebook management pseudoapp that has come with any of my readers. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/09/2020 20.44, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am 13.09.2020 um 20:00 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 11/09/2020 20.39, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same.
https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019690433-Products-no-longer-manu...
I thought they dropped the ereaders entirely. There is a list there of ereaders that continue being supported.
Mine is probably not supported (unsure, can't look the model number). That may mean (will test when I finally connect the battery) that it can not sync via wifi, or via use to the Windows application. Sigh.
Have you tried calibre?
I've been using ereaders for ... dunno, 7 years or more now, and so far calibre has surpassed every single ebook management pseudoapp that has come with any of my readers.
Certainly. But it can not download and install DRM protected ebooks I purchase. First I have to download them with adobe, remove the protection, and then Calibre can use them. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/13/20 2:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I thought they dropped the ereaders entirely. There is a list there of ereaders that continue being supported.
Mine is probably not supported (unsure, can't look the model number). That may mean (will test when I finally connect the battery) that it can not sync via wifi, or via use to the Windows application. Sigh.
I decided to check mine. First off, I had to conduct an archaeological dig to find it and then a mini-USB cable to charge it. It appears mine is an N647, which is no longer supported. However, I do have the app on my tablet, which is Android 7 and still supported. I also have the Kindle app and another for epub. As I mentioned, I much prefer my tablet for an ereader. It just works much better than the Kobo. The only aspect where the Kobo has an advantage is with battery charge life. At the moment, I'm reading a library book, using the Overdrive app. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/09/2020 21.13, James Knott wrote:
On 9/13/20 2:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I thought they dropped the ereaders entirely. There is a list there of ereaders that continue being supported.
Mine is probably not supported (unsure, can't look the model number). That may mean (will test when I finally connect the battery) that it can not sync via wifi, or via use to the Windows application. Sigh.
I decided to check mine. First off, I had to conduct an archaeological dig to find it and then a mini-USB cable to charge it. It appears mine is an N647, which is no longer supported. However, I do have the app on my tablet, which is Android 7 and still supported. I also have the Kindle app and another for epub. As I mentioned, I much prefer my tablet for an ereader. It just works much better than the Kobo. The only aspect where the Kobo has an advantage is with battery charge life.
And a screen that seems exactly like paper, without backlight, which can be read perfectly in the bright sunshine.
At the moment, I'm reading a library book, using the Overdrive app.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 11/09/2020 20.39, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had no idea about kobo not supporting the readers now, that's bad news. I see they sell them on shops all the same.
https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019690433-Products-no-longer-manu...
I have a "kobo touch", but following the instructions on the link above I can not see a model name/number; it is probably a N905, N905B, or N905C. It appears my model is still supported. I just managed to connect a new battery and it is now doing an update (dated august 2020). These people change the software continuously: not corrections, but the interface itself. I hope the new battery holds charge ok, it might have been stored for years. For some time, one of the developers maintained an Ubuntu version of the computer application to maintain the ereader, then he changed job inside the company and went silent. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 11/09/2020 19.46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/09/2020 19.37, James Knott wrote:
On 9/11/20 1:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't know, I have some old WiFi devices around. I hope they all keep working.
Set it to n and see if anything fails. But if b devices fail, I'd say toss them, as they're ancient, are slowing your network and likely won't work with WPA2.
My old Compaq laptop keeps reporting the same speed, 56 Mbits (purchased ~2009) The new Thinkpad from a friend reports 146 or so. My small Lenovo laptop reports 72 Mbits or so (purchased summer 2018) In Windows (ThinkPad) I had to type again the password, but not in Linux (the 3 laptops). On Android, the oldish Moto X Play with Android 7, and my Asus tablet keep working fine, but the more recent Moto G6+ with Android 9 failed to connect; I had to delete that connection and redo it. Go figure, I do not understand why some machines require entering the password again (most of the devices are Lenovo).
I have an old Android 4 tablet, which now is a clock :-D
I have an old Samsung phone, which I don't use. Only for emergencies. I should wipe it out before it fails to boot.
But I have a Kobo touch epub reader which I do not want to replace. I'm in the process of installing a new battery. I can not power it up now to check.
Those three I'm not trying yet. Still, only the new laptop improved the speed significantly, but the machine is not mine, so... I get no improvement myself. Current setting on the router is WPA2-PSK, AES encryption, 128 bits. WPS is enabled (via button). band is 2.4GHz, 89211n/EWC Auto bandwidth 20/40 Mixed mode (the alternative is 20) So I think I can not get more speed from that thing 8suplied by the ISP, I'm stuck with it). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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