USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Basil Chupin

20 Mar 2004 20 Mar '04

12:19

Today I replaced with a larger capacity a Flash Disk which has USB v2.0 instead of the v1.1 on the replaced unit. I had absolutely no problems using the previous unit on SuSE v9 Pro -- on all 3 computers for that matter. Now, however, the new unit will not mount and, in fact, totally freezes all computers after a couple of minutes. I have looked at the Suse Database and found an article about amending the /etc/sysconfig/kernel file - but doing this is as useful as tits on a bull in getting the flash disk to operate. (It works perfectly, BTW, on "that OTHER" system.) When I boot the computer(s) I get 4 icons on the desktop showing /media/sda1 - sda4 and (depending on the computer, which is strange in itself) there is either 1 or 4 entries showing /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec.syc 0 0 . But with all this I get nothing but trouble when I try to mount the flash disk (as sda1 or 2 or .....). I waded thru the archives of this forum and came across a couple of promising threads last month which would have helped me but for some damn annoying reason both threads had no responses to the last messages which would have contained the answer(s) I probably needed. It's as if the final responses suddenly went via e-mail rather being posted here. So, I need to use the flash disk on my computers but cannot (unless I boot up in "that OTHER" OS. Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0? BTW, the unit I am talking about is JetFlash 256Mb USB 2.0 Flash Disk which is meant to function correcty on Linux, Windows and Macintosh (as I said above, the USB 1.1 version of the 128Mb unit I had until last week worked without a hitch). Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

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John Andersen

21 Mar 21 Mar

03:00

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found). -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Basil Chupin

05:28

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found).

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.1. My ports are 1.1 but 2.0 will work on them, albeit at the 1.1 speed. If this was not the case then my flash disk would not work under Windows either but it does. So the big pain in the ass is Linux/Suse. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Sid Boyce

11:18

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Basil Chupin wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found).

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.1. My ports are 1.1 but 2.0 will work on them, albeit at the 1.1 speed.

If this was not the case then my flash disk would not work under Windows either but it does. So the big pain in the ass is Linux/Suse.

Cheers.

I've not been following this thread so this may already have been mentioned. Flash drives are mounted as scsi drives /dev/sdax, some guys have said they can only get them to work if they boot up with them attached, which I guess may have already been tried. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Basil Chupin

12:21

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Sid Boyce wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found).

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.1. My ports are 1.1 but 2.0 will work on them, albeit at the 1.1 speed.

If this was not the case then my flash disk would not work under Windows either but it does. So the big pain in the ass is Linux/Suse.

Cheers.

I've not been following this thread so this may already have been mentioned. Flash drives are mounted as scsi drives /dev/sdax, some guys have said they can only get them to work if they boot up with them attached, which I guess may have already been tried.

Yes, I have always mounted it as /media/sda1, and for the new one Suse has created 4 icons on the Desktop sda1 --> sda4 but won't mount any of them and, in fact, locks the computer up after a minute or so where the only way out is the Big Red Button Damn annoying! Oh, after the system has locked up and one reboots, the boot process is dicey where grub stage 2 may decide that the Bios does not support the number of cylinders on the HD(s) and spits the dummy. After a couple of total shutdowns and the mandatory 15 seconds of waiting before rebooting clears the problem - maybe because it took 4 goes one time to get going again. If it's of any help I am running the Athlon XP CPU. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Joe Morris (NTM)

13:30

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/2004 08:21 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: |Yes, I have always mounted it as /media/sda1, and for the new one Suse |has created 4 icons on the Desktop sda1 --> sda4 but won't mount any of |them and, in fact, locks the computer up after a minute or so where the |only way out is the Big Red Button Damn annoying! This sounds like the driver for that usb device is not in the kernel. Do a tail -f /var/log/messages when you plug it in and see if it says something like "not claimed by any driver". If this is the case, you would need to update the kernel for it to work (if it is supported in a newer kernel), or wait til it is supported. If there is no driver support in the kernel for that device, it is not SuSE's fault, nor even the kernel developers, but the manufacturers. I'll bet it came with drivers for Win98. With Linux they don't even need to distribute their driver, just give the kernel developers the info they need to support it. - -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAXZjoSllW3IopKeMRAmpfAJ9S+EM4rs1b/3DkxiUQ34euaymSPQCgrbh5 9bq042uHu42hxhQ4zvr6/SE= =GPfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Basil Chupin

15:50

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1

On 03/21/2004 08:21 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

|Yes, I have always mounted it as /media/sda1, and for the new one Suse |has created 4 icons on the Desktop sda1 --> sda4 but won't mount any of |them and, in fact, locks the computer up after a minute or so where the |only way out is the Big Red Button Damn annoying!

This sounds like the driver for that usb device is not in the kernel. Do a tail -f /var/log/messages when you plug it in and see if it says something like "not claimed by any driver". If this is the case, you would need to update the kernel for it to work (if it is supported in a newer kernel), or wait til it is supported. If there is no driver support in the kernel for that device, it is not SuSE's fault, nor even the kernel developers, but the manufacturers. I'll bet it came with drivers for Win98. With Linux they don't even need to distribute their driver, just give the kernel developers the info they need to support it.

Thanks for the response. The info produced by tail is- Warning: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB mass storage device found at 2 USB mass storage support registered using /lib/modules/2.4.21-199-athlon/,,,,,,/usb-storage.o Symbol version prefix '' Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 512000 5a2-byte hdwr sectors (262MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 So, it would appear that it is being recognised, but not completely. Another strange thing with this exercise of doing the tail. I plugged in the flash disk while logged in a normal user then went the CTRL-ALT-F2 way to login as root to do the tail thingie. What was strange is that after the info got printed out to screen I did not return to the normal command prompt but instead the cursor kept blinking on an empty line; typing in mc (for midnight commander) produced no result nor did typing in exit. C-A-F7 got me back to the Desktop so that I could type this message - but in C-A-F2 the cursor is still blinking on a blank line. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Joe Morris (NTM)

16:10

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

On 03/21/2004 11:50 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Warning: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB mass storage device found at 2 USB mass storage support registered using /lib/modules/2.4.21-199-athlon/,,,,,,/usb-storage.o Symbol version prefix '' Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 512000 5a2-byte hdwr sectors (262MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4

So, it would appear that it is being recognised, but not completely.

What does (as root) fdisk -l AFTER it has been plugged in. If it lists sda1, etc., then try to mount the partition manually.

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Another strange thing with this exercise of doing the tail. I plugged in the flash disk while logged in a normal user then went the CTRL-ALT-F2 way to login as root to do the tail thingie. What was strange is that after the info got printed out to screen I did not return to the normal command prompt but instead the cursor kept blinking on an empty line

Hit Ctl-C to go back to a prompt from running tail. It will give you a running log as long as it is running. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

Basil Chupin

22 Mar 22 Mar

12:26

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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On 03/21/2004 11:50 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Warning: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB mass storage device found at 2 USB mass storage support registered using /lib/modules/2.4.21-199-athlon/,,,,,,/usb-storage.o Symbol version prefix '' Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 512000 5a2-byte hdwr sectors (262MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4

So, it would appear that it is being recognised, but not completely.

What does (as root) fdisk -l AFTER it has been plugged in. If it lists sda1, etc., then try to mount the partition manually.

fdsik -l lists all the drives including the sda1 --> sda4 but for each of the sdas it informs that the starting and ending sectors are not as they should be and "(?non Linux partition)". When I go to mount any one of them nothing happens except that after about 1 monute the whole computer freezes - and only the Red Button (?shades of BSD) breaks the impasse :-(.

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Another strange thing with this exercise of doing the tail. I plugged in the flash disk while logged in a normal user then went the CTRL-ALT-F2 way to login as root to do the tail thingie. What was strange is that after the info got printed out to screen I did not return to the normal command prompt but instead the cursor kept blinking on an empty line

Hit Ctl-C to go back to a prompt from running tail. It will give you a running log as long as it is running.

Ah, of course. Thanks :-). Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

John Andersen

02:12

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

On Sunday 21 March 2004 06:50, Basil Chupin wrote:

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n exit. C-A-F7 got me back to the Desktop so that I could type this message - but in C-A-F2 the cursor is still blinking on a blank line.

Well thats what tail -f does. -f = Follow man tail BTW, Ctrl-Alt-F1 also gives you the console without the need to tail. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

scsijon

08:04

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!--hijacked

Apologies for hijacking but just came across this in my freshmeat lists [074] - usb-mount 0.8 by Michael Hamilton (http://freshmeat.net/users/mch/) Saturday, March 20th 2004 23:10 About: usb-mount provides desktop integration for systems using the hotplug scripts and the KDE desktop. It automatically mounts and unmounts USB storage partitions and modifies the user's desktop, via the addition of icons representing USB storage device partitions. The user can interact with the storage device by opening the desktop icons to reveal the folders corresponding to each partition. Each partition's mount status can be altered by using icon control options. License: GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/usbmount/ this may be of use to us all, or at least those using kde apologies again scsijon At 02:50 AM 22/03/2004, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/2004 08:21 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: |Yes, I have always mounted it as /media/sda1, and for the new one Suse |has created 4 icons on the Desktop sda1 --> sda4 but won't mount any of |them and, in fact, locks the computer up after a minute or so where the |only way out is the Big Red Button Damn annoying! This sounds like the driver for that usb device is not in the kernel. Do a tail -f /var/log/messages when you plug it in and see if it says something like "not claimed by any driver". If this is the case, you would need to update the kernel for it to work (if it is supported in a newer kernel), or wait til it is supported. If there is no driver support in the kernel for that device, it is not SuSE's fault, nor even the kernel developers, but the manufacturers. I'll bet it came with drivers for Win98. With Linux they don't even need to distribute their driver, just give the kernel developers the info they need to support it.

Thanks for the response.

The info produced by tail is-

Warning: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB mass storage device found at 2 USB mass storage support registered using /lib/modules/2.4.21-199-athlon/,,,,,,/usb-storage.o Symbol version prefix '' Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 512000 5a2-byte hdwr sectors (262MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4

So, it would appear that it is being recognised, but not completely.

Another strange thing with this exercise of doing the tail. I plugged in the flash disk while logged in a normal user then went the CTRL-ALT-F2 way to login as root to do the tail thingie. What was strange is that after the info got printed out to screen I did not return to the normal command prompt but instead the cursor kept blinking on an empty line; typing in mc (for midnight commander) produced no result nor did typing in exit. C-A-F7 got me back to the Desktop so that I could type this message - but in C-A-F2 the cursor is still blinking on a blank line.

Cheers.

-- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

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Basil Chupin

12:27

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!--hijacked

scsijon wrote:

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Apologies for hijacking but just came across this in my freshmeat lists

[074] - usb-mount 0.8 by Michael Hamilton (http://freshmeat.net/users/mch/) Saturday, March 20th 2004 23:10

About: usb-mount provides desktop integration for systems using the hotplug scripts and the KDE desktop. It automatically mounts and unmounts USB storage partitions and modifies the user's desktop, via the addition of icons representing USB storage device partitions. The user can interact with the storage device by opening the desktop icons to reveal the folders corresponding to each partition. Each partition's mount status can be altered by using icon control options.

License: GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL)

URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/usbmount/

this may be of use to us all, or at least those using kde apologies again scsijon

At 02:50 AM 22/03/2004, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/2004 08:21 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: |Yes, I have always mounted it as /media/sda1, and for the new one Suse |has created 4 icons on the Desktop sda1 --> sda4 but won't mount any of |them and, in fact, locks the computer up after a minute or so where the |only way out is the Big Red Button Damn annoying! This sounds like the driver for that usb device is not in the kernel. Do a tail -f /var/log/messages when you plug it in and see if it says something like "not claimed by any driver". If this is the case, you would need to update the kernel for it to work (if it is supported in a newer kernel), or wait til it is supported. If there is no driver support in the kernel for that device, it is not SuSE's fault, nor even the kernel developers, but the manufacturers. I'll bet it came with drivers for Win98. With Linux they don't even need to distribute their driver, just give the kernel developers the info they need to support it.

Thanks for the response.

The info produced by tail is-

Warning: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB mass storage device found at 2 USB mass storage support registered using /lib/modules/2.4.21-199-athlon/,,,,,,/usb-storage.o Symbol version prefix '' Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 512000 5a2-byte hdwr sectors (262MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4

So, it would appear that it is being recognised, but not completely.

Another strange thing with this exercise of doing the tail. I plugged in the flash disk while logged in a normal user then went the CTRL-ALT-F2 way to login as root to do the tail thingie. What was strange is that after the info got printed out to screen I did not return to the normal command prompt but instead the cursor kept blinking on an empty line; typing in mc (for midnight commander) produced no result nor did typing in exit. C-A-F7 got me back to the Desktop so that I could type this message - but in C-A-F2 the cursor is still blinking on a blank line.

Cheers.

Thanks for that URL. I'll follow it up on the next logon. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Carl William Spitzer IV

21:09

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

One very old trick that is rarely mentioned is to hook up everything then install. On hearing of the problems adding a Iomega parallel to the system I just did the install with the drive attached and never had a problem other than the COD but thats not a suse problem. Maybe you need to try to boot with the rescue disk and see what it finds. CWSIV On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 03:18, Sid Boyce wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found).

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.1. My ports are 1.1 but 2.0 will work on them, albeit at the 1.1 speed.

If this was not the case then my flash disk would not work under Windows either but it does. So the big pain in the ass is Linux/Suse.

Cheers.

I've not been following this thread so this may already have been mentioned. Flash drives are mounted as scsi drives /dev/sdax, some guys have said they can only get them to work if they boot up with them attached, which I guess may have already been tried.

-- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Basil Chupin

24 Mar 24 Mar

02:29

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

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One very old trick that is rarely mentioned is to hook up everything then install. On hearing of the problems adding a Iomega parallel to the system I just did the install with the drive attached and never had a problem other than the COD but thats not a suse problem.

Maybe you need to try to boot with the rescue disk and see what it finds.

CWSIV

On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 03:18, Sid Boyce wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:19, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

Not to be too obvious Basil, but you are sure your UPS ports are 2.0 capable??? Lots of older machines arent, and then you are relying on the device to support 1.1 in addition, (which is sort of hit or miss I've found).

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.1. My ports are 1.1 but 2.0 will work on them, albeit at the 1.1 speed.

If this was not the case then my flash disk would not work under Windows either but it does. So the big pain in the ass is Linux/Suse.

Cheers.

I've not been following this thread so this may already have been mentioned. Flash drives are mounted as scsi drives /dev/sdax, some guys have said they can only get them to work if they boot up with them attached, which I guess may have already been tried.

-- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Re-installing is not a real proposition, but I will try rebooting with the rescue disk although I don't see what it could find any different to what was generated by doing the 'tail -f' command suggested by Joe. I really don't understand this hassle because USB 2 has been around since, what 2001, and Linus put support for it into the kernel and released it in January 2002 (!) in version 2.5.2 - so there has been enough time to incorporate any work-arounds into the current kernel in Suse. Most frustrating. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Carl William Spitzer IV

25 Mar 25 Mar

23:50

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Then boot knoppix and plug in the flash. examine its fstab and see what it does. if this works then it might be a bug . CWSIV On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:29:59 +1100 Basil Chupin <SNIP>

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Re-installing is not a real proposition, but I will try rebooting with the rescue disk although I don't see what it could find any different to

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what was generated by doing the 'tail -f' command suggested by Joe.

I really don't understand this hassle because USB 2 has been around since, what 2001, and Linus put support for it into the kernel and released it in January 2002 (!) in version 2.5.2 - so there has been enough time to incorporate any work-arounds into the current kernel in

Suse. Most frustrating.

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Sid Boyce

26 Mar 26 Mar

00:44

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Then boot knoppix and plug in the flash. examine its fstab and see what it does. if this works then it might be a bug .

CWSIV

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:29:59 +1100 Basil Chupin <SNIP>

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Re-installing is not a real proposition, but I will try rebooting with the rescue disk although I don't see what it could find any different to

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what was generated by doing the 'tail -f' command suggested by Joe.

I really don't understand this hassle because USB 2 has been around since, what 2001, and Linus put support for it into the kernel and released it in January 2002 (!) in version 2.5.2 - so there has been enough time to incorporate any work-arounds into the current kernel in

Suse. Most frustrating.

I was having problems on 3 boxes, 1 SuSE 9.0 machine, 1 32-bit laptop and a 64-bit laptop with 9.0 64-bit. The 64-bit laptop saw it once after

Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: plugin, later after reboot, it's not seen it again, the 32-bit laptop sees it but cannot do anything with it. After building a new kernel which failed to boot, I rebooted the old 2.6.5-rc1-mm2 on the XP2200+ tower and it was there, I've created an ext2 filesystem on it and have copied files across. I've been able to umount and mount it again, but the laptops still do not recognise it, I shall see what happens when I reboot them with it connected. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Carl William Spitzer IV

23:28

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem!

Try the knoppix boot on the laptops also. If it sees them then at least you dont need repairs. CWSIV On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 16:44, Sid Boyce wrote:

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Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

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Then boot knoppix and plug in the flash. examine its fstab and see what it does. if this works then it might be a bug .

CWSIV

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:29:59 +1100 Basil Chupin <SNIP>

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Re-installing is not a real proposition, but I will try rebooting with the rescue disk although I don't see what it could find any different to

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what was generated by doing the 'tail -f' command suggested by Joe.

I really don't understand this hassle because USB 2 has been around since, what 2001, and Linus put support for it into the kernel and released it in January 2002 (!) in version 2.5.2 - so there has been enough time to incorporate any work-arounds into the current kernel in

Suse. Most frustrating.

I was having problems on 3 boxes, 1 SuSE 9.0 machine, 1 32-bit laptop and a 64-bit laptop with 9.0 64-bit. The 64-bit laptop saw it once after plugin, later after reboot, it's not seen it again, the 32-bit laptop sees it but cannot do anything with it. After building a new kernel which failed to boot, I rebooted the old 2.6.5-rc1-mm2 on the XP2200+ tower and it was there, I've created an ext2 filesystem on it and have copied files across. I've been able to umount and mount it again, but the laptops still do not recognise it, I shall see what happens when I reboot them with it connected. Regards Sid.

-- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Basil Chupin

25 Mar 25 Mar

11:02

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem! UPDATE ON PROBLEM

Basil Chupin wrote:

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Today I replaced with a larger capacity a Flash Disk which has USB v2.0 instead of the v1.1 on the replaced unit. I had absolutely no problems using the previous unit on SuSE v9 Pro -- on all 3 computers for that matter.

Now, however, the new unit will not mount and, in fact, totally freezes all computers after a couple of minutes.

I have looked at the Suse Database and found an article about amending the /etc/sysconfig/kernel file - but doing this is as useful as tits on a bull in getting the flash disk to operate. (It works perfectly, BTW, on "that OTHER" system.)

When I boot the computer(s) I get 4 icons on the desktop showing /media/sda1 - sda4 and (depending on the computer, which is strange in itself) there is either 1 or 4 entries showing /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec.syc 0 0 . But with all this I get nothing but trouble when I try to mount the flash disk (as sda1 or 2 or .....).

I waded thru the archives of this forum and came across a couple of promising threads last month which would have helped me but for some damn annoying reason both threads had no responses to the last messages which would have contained the answer(s) I probably needed. It's as if the final responses suddenly went via e-mail rather being posted here. So, I need to use the flash disk on my computers but cannot (unless I boot up in "that OTHER" OS.

Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

BTW, the unit I am talking about is JetFlash 256Mb USB 2.0 Flash Disk which is meant to function correcty on Linux, Windows and Macintosh (as I said above, the USB 1.1 version of the 128Mb unit I had until last week worked without a hitch).

I am stumped as to what happened/is happening but the FlashDisk mentioned above is now working. Here is the log of events which made the flash disk work: * I needed to transfer some files (both Win and Linux) to the second computer and used the Win OS to half fill the flash disk with files; * I transferred the files onto the second computer using Win and then decided to boot into SuSE just to see what would happen (considering that it was Thursday afternoon and it was a nice day outside); * after booting into SuSE I plugged the disk in and, as normal, 4 icons appeared on the desktop. With much brovado I clicke on the Sda4 icon to mount it -- and, and, and... it mounted! * I then filled it up to brim with files (any file I could find) while still in SuSE and tried mounting it on the other (main) computer and again it worked. Deleting all files from the flash disk did not affect it newly found ability to perform and it now mounts/unmounts on both computers (haven't yet tried it on my wife's computer). So, the only conclusion I can come to is that a new flash disk needs to be substantially filled with files before trying to mount it on a SuSE(/Linux) system, after which it will function 'properly'. The qualification re the word "properly" is that while it mounted correctly it would not unmount correctly at least twice with the error message displayed that it was not even mounted but the file directory showing that it was still mounted. The other thing is that even though it is only the one flash disk unit, fstab shows 4 entries for it (sda1 - sda4) with the same number of icons showing on the Desktop. Finally, I am able to only mount /media/sda4 - trying to mount sda1 or 2 or 3 causes the computer to lock-up and the only way out is pressing the reboot button. Cheers. PS Just rried it on my wife's computer (also SuSE 9) and it works (as above). -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

Graham Smith

16:22

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem! UPDATE ON PROBLEM

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Today I replaced with a larger capacity a Flash Disk which has USB v2.0 instead of the v1.1 on the replaced unit. I had absolutely no problems using the previous unit on SuSE v9 Pro -- on all 3 computers for that matter. ----------------------Clipped --------------------- Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

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Maybe not an answer but have a look at the following SDB article. USB 2.0 http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/01/USB_2_0.html -- Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------

Basil Chupin

27 Mar 27 Mar

13:05

New subject: [SLE] USB 2.0 & v9.0 & Flash Disk -- Damn problem! UPDATE ON PROBLEM

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Today I replaced with a larger capacity a Flash Disk which has USB v2.0 instead of the v1.1 on the replaced unit. I had absolutely no problems using the previous unit on SuSE v9 Pro -- on all 3 computers for that matter.

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Can anyone please, pretty please, provide the answer on how to get the USB 2.0 flash disk to work on Suse Pro V9.0?

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Maybe not an answer but have a look at the following SDB article. USB 2.0 http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/01/USB_2_0.html

This is the article I referred to - in not quite nice terms :-) - in my original message. What is in it did nothing to solve my problem at the time, and I suspect that it may be pertinent to someone who a a real USB 2.0-capable motherboard and doesn't have the new 2.6 kernel. Cheers. -- All Scottish food is based on a dare.

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