Still cannot update beyond original KDE3.3--Exhausted and Depressed
I am completely confused! A week ago I had no trouble updating Suse 9.2 Pro through YOU from Kde 3.3 to Kde 3.3.7 (something), and to kernel "level a". I intentionally removed my system, because being a three week user of Linux, I experimented knowing I would screw up so badly that I would have to remove, reformat and reinstall. Now that I reinstalled (cleanly) I cannot get YOU updates to take hold. I keep getting the same files to install as updates including the 11.75 MB kernel nongpl update. And when I run that nongpl update i get a Conflict Resolution notice thru System Update to remove referring package: "delete-kernel-default-nongpl 2.6.8-24.11" and "install kernel 2.6.8-24-default " A problem is that when I go Control Center/YaST2 modules the screen on the right shows that I still have kernel 2.6.8-24-default. None of the update i run seem to take hold. And I can find NO way to update KDE 3.3 to Kde 3.3.2 or get to "level a" again. The system seems to work OK as is but I cannot do some little things I did before - like put a dictionary into the panel - because I can't find it when i right click panel, click add, and look for the dictionary - because it is not anywhere in the lists anymore. I would really and truly appreciate some advice as to how to fix this problem. I simply do not know what to do.
Andy Yankovich wrote:
I am completely confused!
We can see. ;-)
A week ago I had no trouble updating Suse 9.2 Pro through YOU from Kde 3.3 to Kde 3.3.7 (something), and to kernel "level a".
No. You would have updated kde from 3.3.0 to 3.3.2, which shows 3.3.2 Level "a" in the Control Center. You did that by adding the path to the supplementary kde directory in Installation Source Yast module, then choosing the System Update module. Though you may also have updated your kernel, it had nothing to do with the level "a".
Now that I reinstalled (cleanly) I cannot get YOU updates to take hold. Updating KDE is NOT a YOU update. YOU (Yast Online Update) only patches installed packages with security updates, not version updates. I keep getting the same files to install as updates including the 11.75 MB kernel nongpl update. And when I run that nongpl update i get a Conflict Resolution notice thru System Update to remove referring package: "delete-kernel-default-nongpl 2.6.8-24.11" and "install kernel 2.6.8-24-default "
These should all match, i.e. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-default-nongpl-2.6.8-24.11 kernel-default-2.6.8-24.11 kernel-source-2.6.8-24.11 Sounds like one or some are out of sync. If you know they are correct, tell it to ignore the apparent inconsistency.
A problem is that when I go Control Center/YaST2 modules the screen on the right shows that I still have kernel 2.6.8-24-default. None of the update i run seem to take hold.
They may be getting reset by your subsequent installing from Yast. Check carefully when it complains about system inconsistencies.
And I can find NO way to update KDE 3.3 to Kde 3.3.2 or get to "level a" again.
Just add the correct repository, i.e. supplementary directory to the installation source and do a system update. Make sure it doesn't downgrade your kernel in the process.
I would really and truly appreciate some advice as to how to fix this problem. I simply do not know what to do. Try the above and let us know if you need more help. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Sunday 13 March 2005 09:30, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
You would have updated kde from 3.3.0 to 3.3.2, which shows 3.3.2 Level "a" in the Control Center. You did that by adding the path to the supplementary kde directory in Installation Source Yast module, then choosing the System Update module.
I truly thank you, Joe. But exactly HOW do I "add the Path to the supplementary kde directory in installation source"? Do I do this thru a terminal or thru YaSt2? Is there an exact command I must write in somewhere? I do not understand what you're telling me to do. Part 2 of my frustration: I read everything I could find on how to "mount" my DVD-CD Rom and my RW-CD. I *think* I figured out allbut the last part - what to type in for the file destination. I read that 'mounting' is to "mount something to somewhere". I have no idea to where I am "mounting" my two devices. Could you also please tell me who to finish (and maybe also start) th mount process. Like perhaps give the the exact command and where to type the command. I've been (trying to) using Linux for three weeks but if I can never get my CD reader and CD-RW drives working, i have to go back to that other OS. Thanks a bunch for helping. God Bless brother, Andy
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 10:22, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Sunday 13 March 2005 09:30, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: I truly thank you, Joe. But exactly HOW do I "add the Path to the supplementary kde directory in installation source"?
Do I do this thru a terminal or thru YaSt2? Is there an exact command I must write in somewhere? I do not understand what you're telling me to do.
Part 2 of my frustration: I read everything I could find on how to "mount" my DVD-CD Rom and my RW-CD. I *think* I figured out allbut the last part - what to type in for the file destination. I read that 'mounting' is to "mount something to somewhere". I have no idea to where I am "mounting" my two devices.
Look in /media for the names of your devices. The "path" may be /media/cdrom or /media/cdrecorder. Since you are most likely using the default setup (automounter) simply cd /media/cdrom(cdrecorder according to your setup) and issue an ll (long listing) and you should be able to see your files. If you are trying to burn data to a cd then you -do not- mount the media. You cannot mount unrecorded media as there is no filesystem to mount. This would be the same as trying to look at a blank CD with windows, there is nothing there to mount or look at.
Could you also please tell me who to finish (and maybe also start) th mount process. Like perhaps give the the exact command and where to type the command. I've been (trying to) using Linux for three weeks but if I can never get my CD reader and CD-RW drives working, i have to go back to that other OS.
If you want to manually mount a CD or DVD you would use something simular to: mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom This would mount the cdrom that is the master on the second IDE channel (/dev/hdc) to /media/cdrom. These locations may be different on your PC. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Andy Yankovich wrote:
I truly thank you, Joe. But exactly HOW do I "add the Path to the supplementary kde directory in installation source"?
Open Yast (enter your root password at the prompt), Click on Software, Change Source of Installation. Then click Add, and choose http. On the first field, enter ftp.ale.org and put pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2/yast-source on the second field and choose OK.
Do I do this thru a terminal or thru YaSt2? Yast2. Is there an exact command I must write in somewhere? No, just correct paths to the yast source. I do not understand what you're telling me to do.
If you copied/pasted what I told you to put in the fields, it should have added this source. Single click on it and then click up til it is at the top. Then click Finish. That should put you back at Yast, Software. Now click on the System Update icon.
Part 2 of my frustration: I read everything I could find on how to "mount" my DVD-CD Rom and my RW-CD. I *think* I figured out allbut the last part - what to type in for the file destination. Are your DVDs / cds not automounting? Is the SuSE Hardware Tool starting (looks like a PC Card)? It should automatically start konqueror in the newly mounted cd/dvd directory. I read that 'mounting' is to "mount something to somewhere". I have no idea to where I am "mounting" my two devices.
Which 2 devices? This can be discovered by looking at /etc/fstab. man fstab gives you info to understand the format of the file. Mount mean to attach the contents of the disks to the existing filesystem. The mount point is the directory in the filesystem you will attach those contents. If a disk is not mounted, the directory will be empty. In 9.2, DVD and CD drives will be automounted using the subfs filesystem. This is program/kernel module that autosenses what is inserted and automounts the "contents" to the appropriate directory (as determined by /etc/fstab) with the correct filesystem (i.e. ISO9660). It is also supposed to auto unmount it when you are not using it allowing you to remove the device "contents" from the filesystem safely.
Could you also please tell me who to finish (and maybe also start) th mount process. You can enter mount in a terminal to examine what is mounted on your system, and with what parameters, and to where. Like perhaps give the the exact command and where to type the command. You probably will not be able to mount as a regular user (depends on your fstab files options for a particular device. An example command would be mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom. See man mount for more in depth instruction. I've been (trying to) using Linux for three weeks but if I can never get my CD reader and CD-RW drives working, i have to go back to that other OS.
It should be happening automatically, even in this OS. [BTW, you are free to use whatever you want. If you want to learn how to control your computer, use Linux and expect to ask a lot of questions. With Linux answers at least are to be had. With Windows, you are forced to change to them (Microsoft controls your computer) and their way of doing things. It is your choice.] Assuming it does NOT happen automatically for you, try copy/pasting the output of mount, the contents of /etc/fstab, and the output of the ls -lR /media (when I say output I mean what shows in your terminal when you enter those commands). -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
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