Hamish, On Wednesday 02 February 2005 08:28, Hamish wrote:

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Here's where to look / what to do:

- KMail -> Settings (menu) -> Configure KMail - Appearance category - Headers tab - From Message Header Threading Options (middle section) select: "Open threads that contain new, unread or important message and open watched threads."

Is there any way to just make them bold, or a different colour? Even if they are expanded, it is more tricky to find unread items. I like to keep them all closed, scan for interesting threads, then expand, it keeps things much simpler!

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Sunny wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:28:05 +0000, Hamish wrote:

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Here's where to look / what to do:

- KMail -> Settings (menu) -> Configure KMail - Appearance category - Headers tab - From Message Header Threading Options (middle section) select: "Open threads that contain new, unread or important message and open watched threads."

Is there any way to just make them bold, or a different colour? Even if they are expanded, it is more tricky to find unread items. I like to keep them all closed, scan for interesting threads, then expand, it keeps things much simpler!

In the upper right corner there is dropdown box for filtering the view. Select there Unreaded.

Sunny

I dont think I am explaining myself properly... When the thread is not expanded, only the first mail is visible. Any mail under the first mail is not visible, so it does not matter if it is a different colour, shape, size etc. Try it out if you use kmail - go to the folder where this list gets to, click the "folder" menu, click "thread messages". you now have a + next to the threads to expand and contract the threads. Collapse a thread and you will see that only the first message is visible. Now expand the thread and mark one of the mails as unread. It turns blue/red/green/bold/whatyouconfigured. Now collapse the thread. There is no way of telling that the thread contains an unread message. Maybe I've got a buggy install, or Im doing something wrong?

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:48:28 +0000, Hamish wrote:

Sunny wrote:

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:28:05 +0000, Hamish wrote:

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Here's where to look / what to do:

- KMail -> Settings (menu) -> Configure KMail - Appearance category - Headers tab - From Message Header Threading Options (middle section) select: "Open threads that contain new, unread or important message and open watched threads."

Is there any way to just make them bold, or a different colour? Even if they are expanded, it is more tricky to find unread items. I like to keep them all closed, scan for interesting threads, then expand, it keeps things much simpler!

In the upper right corner there is dropdown box for filtering the view. Select there Unreaded.

Sunny

I dont think I am explaining myself properly... When the thread is not expanded, only the first mail is visible. Any mail under the first mail is not visible, so it does not matter if it is a different colour, shape, size etc. Try it out if you use kmail - go to the folder where this list gets to, click the "folder" menu, click "thread messages". you now have a + next to the threads to expand and contract the threads. Collapse a thread and you will see that only the first message is visible. Now expand the thread and mark one of the mails as unread. It turns blue/red/green/bold/whatyouconfigured. Now collapse the thread. There is no way of telling that the thread contains an unread message. Maybe I've got a buggy install, or Im doing something wrong?

You explained pretty well. I do not know how to do this. But it is a nice feature and is a good candidate for feature request to kmail team. So, go ahead, check their bugs database, and see if it is already posted. If not, post it and provide us with a link to the request. They have voting system, so we can add our votes for that feature. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:57:41 +0000, Hamish wrote:

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You explained pretty well. I do not know how to do this. But it is a nice feature and is a good candidate for feature request to kmail team. So, go ahead, check their bugs database, and see if it is already posted. If not, post it and provide us with a link to the request. They have voting system, so we can add our votes for that feature.

Sunny

It was apparently implemented in 1.6, but I and one other cannot find it. Have a look at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38711 for more. If anyone has found the magic trick to do it, please let me know!

Ok, I added my vote for this, and now its status is changed to NEW. I would advice all interested in that feature to vote too, so the guys will pay attention. Thats why this voting system is for :) Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 23:19, B. Stia wrote:

Settings - Configure Kmail -Appearance - There are 5 tabs across the top You can change the colors of the messages and elect to have threads any way you want them.

I did not find any option to change the appearance of a collapsed thread with a new message in it. Could you tell me how this is done?

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 8:48 am, Hamish wrote:

Sunny wrote:

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:28:05 +0000, Hamish wrote:

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Here's where to look / what to do:

- KMail -> Settings (menu) -> Configure KMail - Appearance category - Headers tab - From Message Header Threading Options (middle section) select: "Open threads that contain new, unread or important message and open watched threads."

Is there any way to just make them bold, or a different colour? Even if they are expanded, it is more tricky to find unread items. I like to keep them all closed, scan for interesting threads, then expand, it keeps things much simpler!

In the upper right corner there is dropdown box for filtering the view. Select there Unreaded.

Sunny

I dont think I am explaining myself properly... When the thread is not expanded, only the first mail is visible. Any mail under the first mail is not visible, so it does not matter if it is a different colour, shape, size etc. Try it out if you use kmail - go to the folder where this list gets to, click the "folder" menu, click "thread messages". you now have a + next to the threads to expand and contract the threads. Collapse a thread and you will see that only the first message is visible. Now expand the thread and mark one of the mails as unread. It turns blue/red/green/bold/whatyouconfigured. Now collapse the thread. There is no way of telling that the thread contains an unread message. Maybe I've got a buggy install, or Im doing something wrong?

I think you explained the feature you want well. I do not think it is available in 3.3.2 KDE yet. Here is a "work-around" that I use. I have assigned the up and the down arrow keys to the next unread and previous unread messages. That way I just go to a kmail folder and press the down arrow keys continuously until all the mails in that folder are read. I have found that the following key mappings work well to navigate through many emails up arrow - go to previous unread down arrow - go to next unread left arrow - go to previous right arrow - go to next This doesn't exactly solve the problem that you are running into. But, that's the best solution that I could think of to navigate through 100's of unread emails effectively. If you are subscribing to suse-linux-e then you know what I mean :). -- Osho

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 9:21 am, Hamish wrote:

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This doesn't exactly solve the problem that you are running into. But, that's the best solution that I could think of to navigate through 100's of unread emails effectively. If you are subscribing to suse-linux-e then you know what I mean :).

Osho, please go to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38711 and vote for this if you think it would be useful to you. Thanks for the tip, I will use this! H

I added my vote. I also suggested a few other features regarding threads that I like. Here is a blurb I put in there.. I would also suggest that there should be a sorting mechanism which sorts threads based on the latest mail in the thread and not the earliest mail in the thread. Currently, threads are sorted by the time-stamp of the earliest mail in the thread. That way, when a very popular thread keeps on receiving messages - it goes to the bottom. If the sorting was based on the time-stamp of the latest mail in the thread - then a new mail in otherwise old thread would bring that thread to top (or bottom) with the other unread messages. Also, in such cases, the thread should be expanded with only the unread messages visible inside the thread. User can further click on the thread's first mail to see all the messages in thread. And, of course, all the messages in thread should be bold that are unread. These three features together makes it a lot easier to work with too many mails and long threads. How do I know? Because, Outlook implements it this way - which I have used for years now. Please don't bash me just because I am suggesting something that is availbale in microsoft product. Just evaluate this usability feature on it's own merit - you will find that it indeed makes working with many threads/messages a lot easier. -- Osho

Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 11:48 am, Hamish wrote:

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blue/red/green/bold/whatyouconfigured. Now collapse the thread. There is no way of telling that the thread contains an unread message. Maybe I've got a buggy install, or Im doing something wrong? all of my threads with new messages are in RED, are the new messages red, or is the thread red? (say that 10 times fast;) ) and the thread is opened. All other threads are closed. use the "+" PLUS key to go to the next unread message.

Can you still have the thread in red, but with the thread collapsed?

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:36:37 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Wednesday 02 February 2005 12:31 pm, Hamish wrote:

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are the new messages red, or is the thread red? (say that 10 times fast;) ) and the thread is

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opened. All other threads are closed. use the "+" PLUS key to go to the next unread message.

Can you still have the thread in red, but with the thread collapsed? actually, I have another folder, and the new messages are in BLUE, not sure how I did that!

I noticed, that when you open a folder, and there are new messages, they are red. But if you after that open another folder without reading the messages, and then go back, the unread messages in the first folder become blue. It makes sense, as it shows that there are unread, but you already know about them, while the red messages are really new :). Or something like that :) Sunny

I've never tried to collapse a thread with new messages, what would be the point? After reading all messages in a thread, and going to the next folder, the threads auto collapse. MOSTLY, each folder is a different filter, but I don't remember changing the color schemes..

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