8.2 and Linksys WPC11v3 Wireless Card
Hi, Just bought 8.2 and installed it on my laptop that used to run 8.0. (You can read my review thus far at my blog, http://www.rurnt.com/brian ) I've read several threads about getting the Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card working and each seems to suggest a different approach, none of which has worked yet. 'carctl ident' gives me: Socket 0: product info: "The Linksys Group, Inc.", "Instant Wireless Network PC Card", "ISL37300P", "RevA" manfid: 0x0274, 0x1613 function: 6 (network) I would like to get the card working with 128-bit Wep at home and be able to easily switch it to work on any open access point elsewhere. Is this the unattainable holy grail of wireless access on Linux? Detailed directions for a sometimes dense user appreciated. Brian
Hi, My approach was simply to - turn on the machine - insert the card. As a result I had a "wlan0" network device which I could configure like any other ethernet device. Michael Brian wrote:
Hi,
Just bought 8.2 and installed it on my laptop that used to run 8.0. (You can read my review thus far at my blog, http://www.rurnt.com/brian ) I've read several threads about getting the Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card working and each seems to suggest a different approach, none of which has worked yet.
'carctl ident' gives me:
Socket 0: product info: "The Linksys Group, Inc.", "Instant Wireless Network PC Card", "ISL37300P", "RevA" manfid: 0x0274, 0x1613 function: 6 (network)
I would like to get the card working with 128-bit Wep at home and be able to easily switch it to work on any open access point elsewhere. Is this the unattainable holy grail of wireless access on Linux?
Detailed directions for a sometimes dense user appreciated.
Brian
Come now, I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again. Obviously, in my case, merely plugging in the card and turning the computer on did not produce a wlan0 interface. I did mention in my e-mail that I've been running SuSE for over a year now. Here's info from my /var/log/messages for anyone who wants to make an honest effort at helping: http://www.rurnt.com/brian/varlogmsg.txt Michael Hasenstein wrote:
Hi,
My approach was simply to - turn on the machine - insert the card.
As a result I had a "wlan0" network device which I could configure like any other ethernet device.
Michael
Brian wrote:
Hi,
Just bought 8.2 and installed it on my laptop that used to run 8.0. (You can read my review thus far at my blog, http://www.rurnt.com/brian ) I've read several threads about getting the Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card working and each seems to suggest a different approach, none of which has worked yet.
'carctl ident' gives me:
Socket 0: product info: "The Linksys Group, Inc.", "Instant Wireless Network PC Card", "ISL37300P", "RevA" manfid: 0x0274, 0x1613 function: 6 (network)
I would like to get the card working with 128-bit Wep at home and be able to easily switch it to work on any open access point elsewhere. Is this the unattainable holy grail of wireless access on Linux?
Detailed directions for a sometimes dense user appreciated.
Brian
Brian wrote:
Come now,
I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again.
Obviously, in my case, merely plugging in the card and turning the computer on did not produce a wlan0 interface. I did mention in my e-mail that I've been running SuSE for over a year now
Never you mind that mean old Michael, it didn't work out-of-box for me either, and I've been running SuSE for _five_ years. Here are the notes I wrote after I did get it to work (with ESSID and 40-bit): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To set up wireless with a Prism-based PCMCIA card on SuSE 8.2: 1) Create a file /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0. This makes up for the fact that YaST can't deal with wlan-ng (see http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/wavelan.html, about halfway down the page). Here is an example file: BOOTPROTO='static' BROADCAST='192.168.1.255' DHCLIENT_SET_DOWN_LINK='yes' IPADDR='192.168.1.3' NETMASK='255.255.255.0' NETWORK='192.168.1.0' REMOTE_IPADDR='' STARTMODE='hotplug' UNIQUE='' WIRELESS='yes' WIRELESS_ESSID='MY_ESSID' WIRELESS_KEY='1234567890' WIRELESS_MODE='Managed' WIRELESS_NICK='' WIRELESS_NWID='' 2) IN etc/wlan/wlan.conf, set your ESSID if necessary. 3) In /etc/wlan, copy wlancfg-DEFAULT to wlancfg-MY_ESSID and edit appropriately. If you are using WEP, set "dot11PrivacyInvoked=true" and "dot11WEPDefaultKeyID=" to your default key. Enter your keys in "dot11WEPDefaultKey0=" etc. Also make sure "IS_ADHOC" is set correctly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me know if it works; if so, I'll submit it for Togan's Unofficial SuSE FAQ. I sent it to a guy in my local users' group, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet on whether it worked for him.
Michael Hasenstein wrote:
Hi,
My approach was simply to - turn on the machine - insert the card.
As a result I had a "wlan0" network device which I could configure like any other ethernet device.
Michael
Brian wrote:
Hi,
Just bought 8.2 and installed it on my laptop that used to run 8.0. (You can read my review thus far at my blog, http://www.rurnt.com/brian ) I've read several threads about getting the Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card working and each seems to suggest a different approach, none of which has worked yet.
'carctl ident' gives me:
Socket 0: product info: "The Linksys Group, Inc.", "Instant Wireless Network PC Card", "ISL37300P", "RevA" manfid: 0x0274, 0x1613 function: 6 (network)
I would like to get the card working with 128-bit Wep at home and be able to easily switch it to work on any open access point elsewhere. Is this the unattainable holy grail of wireless access on Linux?
Detailed directions for a sometimes dense user appreciated.
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Why on earth is it unhelpful when I say what I did??? If you feel you have to leave SuSE now please do!!! Brian wrote:
Come now,
I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again. ...
To make this 100% clear: - I'm not a supporter - I have NO KNOWLEDGE about any of that wireless stuff, I just use it - You do NOT have the right to always get a response that includes lots of work and research on my part, I'll just say what I know and if I research your issue or not depends on if it has anything to do with my work - which is ORACLE. - If you don't like it and want me to work for you for free, too bad. Michel Michael Hasenstein wrote:
Why on earth is it unhelpful when I say what I did???
If you feel you have to leave SuSE now please do!!!
Brian wrote:
Come now,
I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again.
Wow, I think you may have some unresolved anger issues you should seek counseling for. Perhaps you are unhappy at your job? In any event, to make my position 100% clear: I do not ask you, specifically, to work for free. But, the whole point of a list such as this IS to receive free advice from those who wish to offer it. If, as you claim, you have "NO KNOWLEDGE about any of this wireless stuff" then I would ask that you not respond to requests about wireless stuff. Imagine if everyone responded like you did: Every question would receive an e-mail that said, "Works for me!" with no further suggestions or advice. This would clutter the list to such a point as to make it worthless, and likely infuriate all those hoping to receive genuine offers of assistance. If you want to indicate that this specific wireless card does work on SuSE 8.2 for you, then I'll admit that is minimally helpful. But, I know that already. That's why I bought this card to begin with. A helpful response would be one like the one Glenn wrote yesterday that suggested which config files were relevant to the problem and even offered sample files. As you say, no one requires you to offer such helpful advice. I just ask for the sake of the list's usefulness to those of us who do not mind offering help that it not be cluttered with responses like yours that suggest plugging the card in and turning the computer on. If you truly believe I am such a dolt as not to think to plug the card in and turn the computer on, then I'm not sure why you would waste your time on responding to such an idiot to begin with. For those still interested in helping, I took all Glenn's advice from yesterday. Indeed, I had already read his thread in the archives and seen exactly what he cut and paste here yesterday. Unfortunately, I still do not have a wlan0 device showing up under either ifconfig -a or iwconfig. When I first installed 8.2 I did at least receive the beeps that indicate hotplugging is occurring. Now for some reason, this doesn't happen. Also, I get a message on the boot screen that suggests wlan0 needs to have its startmode specified. Unfortunately, I already have STARTMODE="hotplug" in my ifcfg-wlan0 file. The error message it gives on boot up is sort of garbled though, and it may also be saying that no wlan0 device is found (despite being plugged in!) Two other facts to consider: 1) Both green lights on the card are solid. It is as if it knows that it is within range of the access point, but something else (some config file, I gather) is standing in the way. 2) I have tried getting the card to work with the orinoco driver as well as the latest wlan-ng driver. Since these two ways of doing things are not the same I have altered more config files than I can remember since this problem began. It is possible that something there has created the problem. As a result, I really need a comprehensive list of every file that could play a role in making the card work properly and to know exactly what those files should look like. (I also realize this is a big request and ask only those truly interested in helping to do so). Finally, I wonder if those using this card on 8.2 are using the orinoco or wlan-ng driver, and to what extent you are able to get 128-bit encryption working, because it seems possible to me that the problem is merely with the encryption stuff. (But I would think I would at least be able to see wlan0 if that were the case.) Thanks in advance to those who wish to help! I'm sorry I've so upset you, Michael. Carry on with your Oracle work. I wish you well with that. Michael Hasenstein wrote:
To make this 100% clear: - I'm not a supporter - I have NO KNOWLEDGE about any of that wireless stuff, I just use it - You do NOT have the right to always get a response that includes lots of work and research on my part, I'll just say what I know and if I research your issue or not depends on if it has anything to do with my work - which is ORACLE. - If you don't like it and want me to work for you for free, too bad. Michel
Michael Hasenstein wrote:
Why on earth is it unhelpful when I say what I did???
If you feel you have to leave SuSE now please do!!!
Brian wrote:
Come now,
I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again.
Michael Hasenstein wrote:
Hi,
My approach was simply to - turn on the machine - insert the card.
As a result I had a "wlan0" network device which I could configure like any other ethernet device.
Michael
If you think this answer is any better you're awfully
WRONG my friend! Why don't you at least point out some
useful url addressing wireless install stuff as we all
know it's pain in a neck anyway. It took me few days
to make built in wireless card work on my laptop and I
had SuSE expert watching my back and I can't say what
tricks he had to pull to make that happen anyway.
I'm surprised you didn't advise him to convert to
Windows yet.
Martin
--- Michael Hasenstein
Why on earth is it unhelpful when I say what I did???
If you feel you have to leave SuSE now please do!!!
Brian wrote:
Come now,
I buy SuSE's distributions in large part just to support a company I think is putting out a quality product. When her employees give such unhelpful responses it makes one far less likely to feel like doing so ever again. ...
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On Thursday 08 May 2003 18:44, Martin wrote:
If you think this answer is any better you're awfully WRONG my friend! Why don't you at least point out some useful url addressing wireless install stuff as we all know it's pain in a neck anyway. It took me few days to make built in wireless card work on my laptop and I had SuSE expert watching my back and I can't say what tricks he had to pull to make that happen anyway.
pull tricks to watch your back? What's with the bullying? Michael offered that the name of the network device was wlan0, which would be a stumbling block for most newbies (yes, one year is a newbie). That alone was worth the post, IMNSHO In Brian's case, it looks like the modules are misbuilt, so I don't think any URL would help him. I think he needs to recompile something, but since I don't have any laptops or wireless cards around, I can't really say for certain. Does that mean I shouldn't post this? This is an open list. "Works for me" posts are perhaps less than useful, but they shouldn't cause flames.
Come on ... you know what I meant ;). It was no flame,
it was just reaction to 'if you feel you need to leave
SuSE, do it now' stuff. I'm in development/support
business too but never said anybody anything like this
just because I felt it aint my job to support
particular issue.
As far as watching my back and using tricks I meant
I'm in no way SuSE expert so I used his help and it
took him some time to figure all that wireless pain
out.
Wouldn't you expect more 'expert' answer from somebody
so close to the source as SuSE guy? Ehh, my wireless
interface has never been named wlan0 but rather eth1
so go and figure :).
Anyway, you're right this is open list ...
Martin
--- Anders Johansson
On Thursday 08 May 2003 18:44, Martin wrote:
If you think this answer is any better you're awfully WRONG my friend! Why don't you at least point out some useful url addressing wireless install stuff as we all know it's pain in a neck anyway. It took me few days to make built in wireless card work on my laptop and I had SuSE expert watching my back and I can't say what tricks he had to pull to make that happen anyway.
pull tricks to watch your back?
What's with the bullying? Michael offered that the name of the network device was wlan0, which would be a stumbling block for most newbies (yes, one year is a newbie). That alone was worth the post, IMNSHO
In Brian's case, it looks like the modules are misbuilt, so I don't think any URL would help him. I think he needs to recompile something, but since I don't have any laptops or wireless cards around, I can't really say for certain. Does that mean I shouldn't post this?
This is an open list. "Works for me" posts are perhaps less than useful, but they shouldn't cause flames.
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Martin wrote: ...
Wouldn't you expect more 'expert' answer from somebody so close to the source as SuSE guy?
You get expert advice if you ask me about the kernel (only: network, TCP/IP, NAT, firewall, see http://www.suse.de/~mha/ - don't expect any deep insights from me if it comes to core kernel stuff like the VM) or about Oracle (on Linux). That doesn't mean I won't answer any other questions if I can. The original email was very non-specific so my answer DID provide some info that MIGHT have been useful or not, which I leave to the person asking to decide. The one thing I didn't expect was a COMPLAINT that it wasn't helpful. Michael
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The one thing I didn't expect was a COMPLAINT that it wasn't helpful.
boy, I think there has been something really weird in the air or water or both this past week or two. Everyone is so jumpy and touchy... Notice !! Disclaimer !!!!! ( this isn't a put down of you Michael I think your message about this was "on point") Nor is it a put down of any other personage, real or virtual , and their "feelings" Which are hurt , or riled , or in any other way made to feel less than a standup golden true bluegreen ( or pick your own colour <g>) It just has been , so far a horrendously contentious month , so step back from your computers, go outside ( in most locations in the states anyway ) and take a deep breath. If you've any real sense , and unless you are under some sort of threat or duress , you'll go out to eat, hug your family, watch something really stupid on telly , or a video, or whatever "vegetating" recreation you please. And just drop out of the Computer revolution, at least for tonight. We'll all be better for it. And we can get back to the important stuff.. World Domination by a guy in a tux w/ webbed feet and a bill, for that other Bill. -- j Afterthought : The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.
When I get up in the morning and get such an email then yes, I get VERY angry. I gave the best advice I could, and what does that guy do? COMPLAIN! If it doesn't help, press delete, but don't COMPLAIN about free advice!!! That's how it works here, for many problems many responses are not what the person asking wanted, but it doesn't matter: You simply pick the one response that bets fits your needs! You don't COMPLAIN to the others who did their best!!! Martin wrote:
If you think this answer is any better you're awfully WRONG my friend! Why don't you at least point out some useful url addressing wireless install stuff as we all know it's pain in a neck anyway. It took me few days to make built in wireless card work on my laptop and I had SuSE expert watching my back and I can't say what tricks he had to pull to make that happen anyway.
I'm surprised you didn't advise him to convert to Windows yet.
Martin
I gave the best advice I could, and what does that guy do? COMPLAIN! If it doesn't help, press delete, but don't COMPLAIN about free advice!!! That's how it works here, for many problems many responses are not what the person asking wanted, but it doesn't matter: You simply pick the one response that bets fits your needs! You don't COMPLAIN to the others who did their best!!!
Now that's good advice. <g> -- John LeMay KC2KTH Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC | http://www.njmc.com | Phone 732-557-4848 Specializing in Microsoft and Unix based solutions
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