It's all about the fonts (and the themes)
One of the most important things to me about a Linux distro is the font situation. I like using a nice, antialiased Verdana everywhere I look. Since the Mozilla that ships with 8.2 isn't compiled against Xft2 (like some *other* distro with which I am all too familiar), I don't want to use it at all. That leaves me perfectly happy to use 12pt Lucida everywhere, which, now that I've been using it again after many months, I'm finding very welcome. It's just much more clear to my myopic eyes. Anyway, I've beaten all the fonts into submission, going so far as to create a .gtkrc file for Evolution and a userChrome.css file for Mozilla that will make them display the fonts the way I like. But I noticed something about SuSE that the Other Distro has left out: gnomecc. I see that the old gtk1 "control panel" is still in the distro. It even runs. I loaded up the themes through Yast, but I still get nothing, just the default theme that Evolution are using. It doesn't seem to pay attention to the custom fonts I try to use either (trying to force them from the default Helvetica to Lucida). Does anyone know the trick to make the gtk1 themes or the custom fonts work from gnomecc? (Does anyone even care any more?) I prefer KDE over Gnome, but Evolution rocks my world, and I want it to display as nicely as everything else I'm using. Thanks, dk
* David Krider (david@davidkrider.com) [030415 19:31]: ->One of the most important things to me about a Linux distro is the font ->situation. I like using a nice, antialiased Verdana everywhere I look. ->Since the Mozilla that ships with 8.2 isn't compiled against Xft2 (like ->some *other* distro with which I am all too familiar), I don't want to ->use it at all. That leaves me perfectly happy to use 12pt Lucida ->everywhere, which, now that I've been using it again after many months, ->I'm finding very welcome. It's just much more clear to my myopic eyes. -> I don't know about Gnome and the way it handles fonts...KDE works great with fonts. But I digress. If you want to have Mozilla use fonts correctly then I would suggest enabling freetype in your unix.js file. It's located here .. " /opt/mozilla/defaults/pref ". What your going to want to edit in this file is the pathto your fonts and uncomment the reference to freetype which might be commented out. It looks like this. ----- // TrueType pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true); pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6"); pref("font.FreeType2.autohinted", false); pref("font.FreeType2.unhinted", true); pref("font.antialias.min", 10); pref("font.embedded_bitmaps.max", 1000000); pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.min", 64); pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.gain", "0.8"); pref("font.directory.truetype.1", "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"); ----- If you do this then you'll get the display you want. If it's the fonts on the popdowns..since your using Gnome I don't know what to say. I use QtCurve for my GTK and KDE apps. This along with Geramik make GTK and QT apps uniform and make the GTK apps take their hints from KDE which has correct font handling. :) Hope that helps in some way. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 22:06, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* David Krider (david@davidkrider.com) [030415 19:31]: ->That leaves me perfectly happy to use 12pt Lucida ->everywhere, which, now that I've been using it again after many months, ->I'm finding very welcome. It's just much more clear to my myopic eyes.
If you do this then you'll get the display you want. If it's the fonts on the popdowns..since your using Gnome I don't know what to say. I use QtCurve for my GTK and KDE apps. This along with Geramik make GTK and QT apps uniform and make the GTK apps take their hints from KDE which has correct font handling. :)
Hope that helps in some way.
Actually, no. I don't mean to sound unappreciative, but you've gotten it backwards. I'm fine *not* getting antialiased fonts with Mozilla (though I'll make a note on how to turn it on for the future). And I don't use Gnome as my desktop. You say you use Geramik for your GTK apps' theme. How would you change it if you wanted to?
* David Krider (david@davidkrider.com) [030415 20:26]: ->Actually, no. I don't mean to sound unappreciative, but you've gotten it ->backwards. I'm fine *not* getting antialiased fonts with Mozilla (though ->I'll make a note on how to turn it on for the future). And I don't use ->Gnome as my desktop. Oh ..sorry about that. ->You say you use Geramik for your GTK apps' theme. How would you change ->it if you wanted to? Well, go to kde-look.org and download the src to Geramik. When you compile it the configure script looks for QT, GTK1 and GTK2 and sets things up according to what's installed. Then you just start the Gnome Control Centre (which does fire up in KDE just fine) and set the GTK theme using that. After you've done that you can use Keramik for KDE. Thus things resemble each other..works quite well. I believe there is a package on SuSE's ftp site in the KDE directory under supplementry directory for Geramik if you don't want to compile it yourself..although it's quite small. The pkg on SuSE's ftp site is about 4-5 versions behind but it does work fine. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
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Since the Mozilla that ships with 8.2 isn't compiled against Xft2 (like
There'll be a GTK2/Xft enabled Mozilla on www.usr-local-bin.org either tomorrow or early next week, and let me tell you, it's gorgeous!
Does anyone know the trick to make the gtk1 themes or the custom fonts work from gnomecc? (Does anyone even care any more?) I prefer KDE over Gnome, but Evolution rocks my world, and I want it to display as nicely as everything else I'm using.
They work for me, but GTK1 just doesn't render fonts very well, so I still with the default font for my theme. Incidentally, if you want a GTK1 theme to match the very nice default GTK2 theme in 8.2, head over to themedepot.org and grab 'fishing the sky' for GTK1. -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.1). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
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Ben Rosenberg
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David Krider
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Fred A. Miller
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James Ogley