On 10/18/2017 12:32 PM, listreader wrote:

On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:40:46 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon.

So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible solution?

I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't identified) and likely something like you have the font/color of the text set to the same color as the background, like white on white or black on black, and thus it's "invisible".

Ralph

Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the defaults would be white on white? Regards Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/18/2017 01:33 PM, listreader wrote:

On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:06:52 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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On 10/18/2017 12:32 PM, listreader wrote:

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:40:46 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon.

So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible solution?

I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't identified) and likely something like you have the font/color of the text set to the same color as the background, like white on white or black on black, and thus it's "invisible".

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Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the defaults would be white on white?

Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know.

If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem when running inside that other desktop?

Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using gnome? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/18/2017 02:46 PM, listreader wrote:

On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:20:03 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon.

So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible solution?

I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't identified) and likely something like you have the font/color of the text set to the same color as the background, like white on white or black on black, and thus it's "invisible".

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Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the defaults would be white on white?

Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know.

If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem when running inside that other desktop?

Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using gnome?

If that's a question then I don't know ;-)

If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a desktop / KDE settings problem.

It was a statement. Sorry.

I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help.

The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Mark Hounschell [10-19-17 08:49]:

On 10/18/2017 03:16 PM, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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On 10/18/2017 02:46 PM, listreader wrote:

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:20:03 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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>>Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon. >> >>So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done this >>on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible >>solution? > >I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the OS. >Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't identified) >and likely something like you have the font/color of the text set >to the same color as the background, like white on white or black >on black, and thus it's "invisible". >

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Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the defaults would be white on white?

Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know.

If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem when running inside that other desktop?

Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using gnome?

If that's a question then I don't know ;-)

If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a desktop / KDE settings problem.

It was a statement. Sorry.

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I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help.

The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing?

I just installed these two GTK apps on my 13.2 x86_64 machine and all is well. I also tried installing them on another Leap 42.3 machine and there also I get empty dialog boxes when I hover the mouse over an icon.

Can anyone tell me of other GTK apps that I could try?

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:17:34 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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>>>> Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon. >>>> >>>> So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done >>>> this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a >>>> possible solution? >>> >>> I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the >>> OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't >>> identified) and likely something like you have the >>> font/color of the text set to the same color as the >>> background, like white on white or black on black, and thus >>> it's "invisible". > >> Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for >> black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either >> of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the >> defaults would be white on white? > > Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings > are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or > LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know. > > If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed > (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem > when running inside that other desktop? >

Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using gnome?

If that's a question then I don't know ;-)

If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a desktop / KDE settings problem.

It was a statement. Sorry.

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I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help.

The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing?

In every case where they worked, the boxes were black with white text. In every case where they were empty, the boxes were white. Maybe the text was also white as "listreader" suggested. How to make this right?

I think you are looking in the wrong place. This should be a qt thing and not a gtk. See if you have something called "Qt Configuration" in your menus or, if not, try "qtconfig" in a terminal. If it runs (it's a qt4 gui) let me know and I'll tell you what to change to try to affect the tooltip colors. NOTE! don't play with settings in that gui without writing down first what they were before as many of them take effect immediately without asking for confirmation. If it doesn't run then a KDE user will need to tell you where the qt base settings for tooltips are in KDE. Surely someone knows. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:48:51 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

On 10/19/2017 11:14 AM, listreader wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:17:34 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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>>>>>> Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only >>>>>> done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and >>>>>> know a possible solution? >>>>> >>>>> I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not >>>>> the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you >>>>> haven't identified) and likely something like you have the >>>>> font/color of the text set to the same color as the >>>>> background, like white on white or black on black, and thus >>>>> it's "invisible". >>> >>>> Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set >>>> for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured >>>> either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I >>>> doubt the defaults would be white on white? >>> >>> Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings >>> are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or >>> LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know. >>> >>> If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed >>> (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem >>> when running inside that other desktop? >>> >> >> Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using >> gnome? > > If that's a question then I don't know ;-) > > If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a > desktop / KDE settings problem. >

It was a statement. Sorry.

> I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE > will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help. >

The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing?

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In every case where they worked, the boxes were black with white text. In every case where they were empty, the boxes were white. Maybe the text was also white as "listreader" suggested. How to make this right?

I think you are looking in the wrong place. This should be a qt thing and not a gtk. See if you have something called "Qt Configuration" in your menus or, if not, try "qtconfig" in a terminal. If it runs (it's a qt4 gui) let me know and I'll tell you what to change to try to affect the tooltip colors. NOTE! don't play with settings in that gui without writing down first what they were before as many of them take effect immediately without asking for confirmation.

I have qtconfig and it runs. Also I have something in Settings->ConfigureDesktop->Appearance->ApplicationStyle->GnomeApplicationStyle. It has settings for GTK2/3 Themes and Behavior, and Icon and cursor Theme.

Try qtconfig and see if it helps any: In the Appearance tab click on Tune Palette. It should say Active Palette at the top right of the next window, if not change it to Active Palette. Under Central Color Roles, change the drop-down box from what it is set as, probably Window, to ToolTipBase. Note what color is shown in the Set Color box. Now change the drop-down box from ToolTipBase to ToolTipText. What color is now shown in the Set Color Box? If both Base and Text are the same then you'll want to change one or the other of them. I use black text on yellow background but try whatever you want. OK, and then File -> Save. See if that does anything to your tooltips. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/19/2017 02:39 PM, listreader wrote:

Mark, if case qtconfig doesn't work in KDE:

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+change+tooltip+color+in+kde

Thanks but that was back in 2012. A lot has changed since then. In fact on my SuSE 13.2 system I do NOT have this issue at all. Plasma5/Leap bug me thinks. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/19/2017 01:49 PM, listreader wrote:

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:48:51 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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On 10/19/2017 11:14 AM, listreader wrote:

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:17:34 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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>>>>>>> Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only >>>>>>> done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and >>>>>>> know a possible solution? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not >>>>>> the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you >>>>>> haven't identified) and likely something like you have the >>>>>> font/color of the text set to the same color as the >>>>>> background, like white on white or black on black, and thus >>>>>> it's "invisible". >>>> >>>>> Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set >>>>> for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured >>>>> either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I >>>>> doubt the defaults would be white on white? >>>> >>>> Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings >>>> are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or >>>> LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know. >>>> >>>> If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed >>>> (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem >>>> when running inside that other desktop? >>>> >>> >>> Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using >>> gnome? >> >> If that's a question then I don't know ;-) >> >> If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a >> desktop / KDE settings problem. >> > > It was a statement. Sorry. > >> I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE >> will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help. >> > > The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really > makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing? >

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In every case where they worked, the boxes were black with white text. In every case where they were empty, the boxes were white. Maybe the text was also white as "listreader" suggested. How to make this right?

I think you are looking in the wrong place. This should be a qt thing and not a gtk. See if you have something called "Qt Configuration" in your menus or, if not, try "qtconfig" in a terminal. If it runs (it's a qt4 gui) let me know and I'll tell you what to change to try to affect the tooltip colors. NOTE! don't play with settings in that gui without writing down first what they were before as many of them take effect immediately without asking for confirmation.

I have qtconfig and it runs. Also I have something in Settings->ConfigureDesktop->Appearance->ApplicationStyle->GnomeApplicationStyle. It has settings for GTK2/3 Themes and Behavior, and Icon and cursor Theme.

Try qtconfig and see if it helps any: In the Appearance tab click on Tune Palette. It should say Active Palette at the top right of the next window, if not change it to Active Palette. Under Central Color Roles, change the drop-down box from what it is set as, probably Window, to ToolTipBase. Note what color is shown in the Set Color box. Now change the drop-down box from ToolTipBase to ToolTipText. What color is now shown in the Set Color Box? If both Base and Text are the same then you'll want to change one or the other of them. I use black text on yellow background but try whatever you want. OK, and then File -> Save. See if that does anything to your tooltips.

Thanks for this info. However the box shown to "Build Palette", no "Tune", is grey'd out and says "Please use the KDE Control Center to set the Palette". I assume that the "KDE Control Center" is now Settings->ConfigureDesktop as I referenced above. I've looked all around in there for Palette anything and see nothing there. When I go to colors, the scheme is Breeze. I select Edit Scheme. I get a window labeled "Breeze -- System Settings". I click on colors and I see "Color Set: Common colors" In there I see tooltip background is black and tooltip text is white. This is how I see the boxes when it works properly. I reversed them to see if the pgms that do work would change to black text on white background. They did not change. So I don't think this is affecting GTK apps. Even though the "Apply Colors to non-QT applications" button is checked. When I select "Color Set: Tooltip" I see colors for normal background alternative backgrounds normal text Inactive text Active text Link text Visited text Negative text Neutral text Positive text They are all different colors. I'm lost. It must be a bug? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:16:06 -0400, Mark Hounschell wrote:

On 10/18/2017 02:46 PM, listreader wrote:

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:20:03 -0400 Mark Hounschell wrote:

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> Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon. > > So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done > this > on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible > solution?

I think possibly you are looking in the wrong place. Not the OS. Usually controlled by your desktop (which you haven't identified) and likely something like you have the font/color of the text set to the same color as the background, like white on white or black on black, and thus it's "invisible".

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Well xvidcap has no settings for this. Eclipse has it set for black on white. I'm running KDE. I have not configured either of these 2 pgms for such and am using defaults. I doubt the defaults would be white on white?

Someone running KDE would have to tell you where the settings are (qt?). I could possibly help you only with XFCE or LXDE(gtk) desktops which is all I know.

If you happen to have another/alternative desktop installed (xfce, lxde, gnome, whatever), do you have the same problem when running inside that other desktop?

Both xvidcap and eclipse have text in the boxes when using gnome? If that's a question then I don't know ;-) If that's a statement then you've just identified that it's a desktop / KDE settings problem.

It was a statement. Sorry.

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I've added "KDE:" to your post title. Maybe someone using KDE will now notice it and hopefully jump in to help.

The 2 apps in question are GTK based. Don't know if that really makes any difference. Maybe it's a GTK thing?

I had similar experience with gtk2 applications in KDE3. Some menu items and dialogs were blank. I solved it by changing gtk theme (for example from crux theme to clearlooks theme in my case). It's worth a try. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/19/2017 04:47 AM, Dave Plater wrote:

On 18/10/2017 16:40, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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I am running the eclipse IDE recently downloaded and when I hover my mouse over an icon, instead of getting text in a box describing what the icon is for, I get an empty box. I reported this over on the eclipse user forum and they wanted a recording of what I was doing so they could see. Si I installed xvidcap from packman to get a recording and I noticed that the xvidcap program did the same thing. Emtpy dialog boxes when I hover over an icon.

So I now suspect this may be a SuSE problem. I've only done this on leap 42.3. Anyone else ever see this and know a possible solution?

Thanks Mark

xvidcap works for me in 42.3, no empty dialog boxes but I used the multimedia:apps version. Can't speak for eclipse but I use mplabx for work continually and it is built on eclipse. I use plasma5 exclusively.

I just tried mplabx and I have no trouble with that. It does NOT appear to have anything to do with eclipse or a GTK application. You say you use the "multimedia:apps version" of xvidcap. What is that and where is it from? Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org