[opensuse] kde4 3.5 - use of mc on remote host kills mouse-click input
Guys, Will, Sven, KDE 3.5.2. I opened konsole and used ssh to connect to my backup office server (suse 10.3) and needed to run mc to move several directories around before a backup. The only apps running were an xterm, konsole and compiz. Once mc started, strangely, it was grabbing focus from the mouse where the mouse would highlight the files/directories and would automatically open the menus on mouseover. A mouse-click did nothing, but everywhere the mouse moved, mc lit up and focus jumped from file-to-file, etc. That in itself was very frustrating. Every time you moved the mouse to do anything (like try and get to another window) the mc interface would try and follow the mouse, sequentially focusing every file or popping open every menu along the mouse path. The problem however is when mc grabbed the mouse (mouse events, whatever you call it) mouse input in plasma was disabled or crashed. With mc on the remote server still active, I could still move the mouse around in kde4, but that was it. There was no way to change focus between windows with the mouse, you could not grab the window any move it, the plasma panel would not unhide and clicking the mouse did nothing. Shutting down mc while konsole was still open made no difference. I could move the mouse, but it didn't do anything except move across the screen. No way to raise the panel or focus or move any other window, etc... At this point, the only way to interact with kde4 was through the keyboard (tab, alt-tab, alt-f2, and alt-menu accel keys). Clicking on anything had no effect. Shutting down konsole (where mc was connected to the 10.3 box) restored the ability to raise the panel and use the mouse to focus windows and focus menus, buttons (on open applications), etc.., but you could not open the start menu, activate or do anything with the mouse clicks. It looked like plasma was just ignoring all clicks or whatever reads mouse clicks had crashed. The only way to open thunderbird and write this email was 'alt+f2 thunderbird' Obviously, I need to be able to use mc on remote hosts though konsole on kde4. However, with this behavior, no only is mc unusable, the entire desktop becomes unusable. Is there some setting somewhere in kde4 I can set that tells kde4 not to try and process mouse events in konsole when I launch mc? From working trough this issue, it looks like as soon as kde4 tried to provide mouse input to mc, mouse input to the rest of kde4 broke. What else can I provide to help here? I really need to get mc usable for remote hosts in kde4. I'm kind of shocked that it doesn't just work and I don't know enough about kde4 to know where any setting relevant to this issue might live. Thanks. P.S. during the 5-10 minutes it took to write the e-mail, mouse-clicks have began to work again. That's a positive sign, but I can't have the mouse drop out for 5-10 minutes every time I open mc on a remote host. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-11-26 at 12:24 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: ...
Obviously, I need to be able to use mc on remote hosts though konsole on kde4. However, with this behavior, no only is mc unusable, the entire desktop becomes unusable.
Open an xterm instead. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkzwVSEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VMFwCfQNJIUAZaEDdsQPkfr4OcE+XZ TpIAmgKD0Fac0WDCFMWEWbOuG7ch9i58 =pR+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Oops, sorry this is with the brand new KDE4.5.3 not 4.3.5. Sorry. On 11/26/2010 06:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Open an xterm instead.
:p That's kind of defeating the purpose of trying to get kde4 to where it can be considered a replacement for kde3.... I need to find out how to disable whatever has broken konsole. I'm sure this mouse-aware brainchild was done with good intentions, though that functionality was completely unneeded. The problem is konsole is completely unusable under this circumstance. When you talk about just wanting the *basics* to work, konsole and konqueror are pretty much at the top of the list. Why there are any issues remaining with those 2 apps in kde4 at release 4.5.3 says volumes about the state of things.... Do you have any guesses where I might disable the mouse-aware behavior that causes the whacky highlight to follow the mouse in mc? The only thing the mouse should do with mc running on a remote host is to copy text to the clipboard when I hold the shift-key and do a button_1 drag to select the text I want. That's the behavior I want back. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/11/10 04:10, David C. Rankin wrote:
Oops, sorry this is with the brand new KDE4.5.3 not 4.3.5. Sorry.
On 11/26/2010 06:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Open an xterm instead.
:p
That's kind of defeating the purpose of trying to get kde4 to where it can be considered a replacement for kde3....
I need to find out how to disable whatever has broken konsole. I'm sure this mouse-aware brainchild was done with good intentions, though that functionality was completely unneeded. The problem is konsole is completely unusable under this circumstance. When you talk about just wanting the *basics* to work, konsole and konqueror are pretty much at the top of the list. Why there are any issues remaining with those 2 apps in kde4 at release 4.5.3 says volumes about the state of things....
Do you have any guesses where I might disable the mouse-aware behavior that causes the whacky highlight to follow the mouse in mc? The only thing the mouse should do with mc running on a remote host is to copy text to the clipboard when I hold the shift-key and do a button_1 drag to select the text I want. That's the behavior I want back.
I had a similar issue with krdc and kwin shortcuts blocking actions in the remote os. The solution is to disable the offending global shortcuts via System Settings->Window Rules. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162723#c14 -- Regards, Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-11-26 at 22:10 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 11/26/2010 06:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Open an xterm instead.
:p
That's kind of defeating the purpose of trying to get kde4 to where it can be considered a replacement for kde3....
:-P Consider it as a diagnosis. To find if it is only konsole. Anyway, I always use mc inside xterms - I tested several terminals so long ago that I have forgotten when, and xterm was the best one for this task. I don't remember what issues I had with konsole and mc, but there were some. Could have been kde or even earlier. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkzxgSwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UMtACeIZ6Moj0K0ZolRViqV20aDdi4 oXAAn1b4Zwi56ZZFOo9gVNVGrM+muGXK =ECLD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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