Subject: broadband with Suse Linux Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers. What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities. BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home. What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line? Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux? Thanks for your answers Franz Preihs -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail + 3 Top-Spielfilme auf DVD ++ Jetzt kostenlos testen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ++
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 11:49 am, Franz Preihs wrote:
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities.
BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line?
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux? I have had broadband for 10 years via cable modem service. If you will be using a cable modem, you can get them with either a USB connector or a 10baseT connector. I would certainly opt for 10baseT connector. I have connected by SuSE box directly to the cable modem as well as my router. I personally prefer a dedicated router or firewall to connect to the network and run my home network behind it. I use a Linksys BEFW11S4 (802.11B wireless + 4 10/100 switched ports). I have never had any trouble with my Linksys.
WRT: Broadband suppliers:
Comcast in the US offers 3Mbps down 256K up.
Others have similar offerings.
DSL is another service that varies depending on the supplier.
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Jerry Feldman
--- Franz Preihs
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities.
BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
Hi Franz, you're right. BT don't 'support' Linux. However, what that means they don't reply to you if you ask a tech support question and let them know you're using Linux. When I signed up with BT I got one of the Thomson Alcatel modems (sometimes called a Frog modem), which does work with Linux, but it takes some configuring. I ended up going and buying a router instead. I use an SMC Barricade which is an ADSL modem, has a hardware firewall etc. Set up was easy as its just essentially setting up a network connection. The only 'problem' I have is that if I reboot, it takes a while for the internet connection to be found. Its easy to fix as you can restart the connection and it works fine, or alternatively, just go off, make a coffee, and then come back, and its will be working. I have the 1Mb option (£29 a month), which works out at 104 k/sec. They currently don't put a cap on downloads, but apparently they're going to introduce it next year. Hope that helps Richard
It is VERY easy to configure a router to share internet. Your options for provider (speed) depend on location. No provider needs to know what OS you use. You don't need to use any ISP's apps if they do it right. Some require you to register a MAC (hardware address of network card) via IE browser when you first connect. You can still use Linux and router by 'cloning' that MAC address with the router once you have it setup, and no-one knows the difference. You can even do this VIA linux if your clever enough to figure out the right IP address of the registration web page. B-) On Wednesday 01 December 2004 09:49 am, Franz Preihs wrote:
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities.
BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line?
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux?
Thanks for your answers Franz Preihs
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On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:49 +0100, Franz Preihs wrote:
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities. If you are in Australia go for "iinet" as it offes 20gig for $90 at 1.5 and so far it has auto installed on suse and xp (once the router is set up) no probs at all. xtremely pleased customer here! Chris BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line?
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux?
Thanks for your answers Franz Preihs
-- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail + 3 Top-Spielfilme auf DVD ++ Jetzt kostenlos testen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ++
Chris, On Wednesday 01 December 2004 10:14, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:49 +0100, Franz Preihs wrote:
Hey, I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
...
If you are in Australia go for "iinet" as it offes 20gig for $90 at 1.5 and so far it has auto installed on suse and xp (once the router is set up) no probs at all. xtremely pleased customer here!
Chris
Well, if his email address is any indication, he's in Austria, right? Randall Schulz
Franz Preihs wrote:
I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers. go for it
BT told me that they don't support linux. I think they all say that. My provider Comcast doens't support Linux but it is working great with SuSE 9.0.
I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? For a while I was using a Linksys router with Comcast and it worked with no trouble. I used the MAC clone option so it had the same MAC as the Windows PC that I originally used when I got connected with Comcast. Besides having to set the MAC, I didn't have to do any other configuration of the router. Now The SuSE 9.0 PC is now my router and that works with no trouble too. The only thing I had to do with the SuSE PC is steal the net card from the Windows PC because I have no idea how to clone a MAC in Linux
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux? Yes. I suspect there are others on this list with much more experience than I have since I always had the simple connection type without ever having to deal with such things as pppoe. A little off topic, what would be the equivalent German expression for "piece of cake" (simple)?
Damon Register
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:23 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Chris,
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 10:14, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:49 +0100, Franz Preihs wrote:
Hey, I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
...
If you are in Australia go for "iinet" as it offes 20gig for $90 at 1.5 and so far it has auto installed on suse and xp (once the router is set up) no probs at all. xtremely pleased customer here!
Chris
Well, if his email address is any indication, he's in Austria, right?
Randall Schulz
Actually, Randall .au is Australia. Maybe they don't have literacy classes where you are. Chris
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:28:25AM +1100, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:23 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Well, if his email address is any indication, he's in Austria, right? Actually, Randall .au is Australia. Maybe they don't have literacy classes where you are.
I don't know about classes but the OP was from Franz Preihs
Chris wrote:
Actually, Randall .au is Australia. Maybe they don't have literacy classes where you are. Huh? Open mouth and change feet? The only other poster other than you with either at or au is the original poster who is gfrpr@gmx.at. My eyes might not be the greatest but it looks like .at to me. Did I miss something?
Damon Register
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:31 -0800, Kastus wrote:
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:28:25AM +1100, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:23 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Well, if his email address is any indication, he's in Austria, right? Actually, Randall .au is Australia. Maybe they don't have literacy classes where you are.
I don't know about classes but the OP was from Franz Preihs
, unless down under "t" was converted to "u" Regards, -Kastus
Actually I did not have that visible at the time and made a stupid asumption. My applogies. Chris
Chris, On Wednesday 01 December 2004 10:28, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:23 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Chris,
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 10:14, Chris wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:49 +0100, Franz Preihs wrote:
Hey, I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
...
If you are in Australia go for "iinet" as it offes 20gig for $90 at 1.5 and so far it has auto installed on suse and xp (once the router is set up) no probs at all. xtremely pleased customer here!
Chris
Well, if his email address is any indication, he's in Austria, right?
Randall Schulz
Actually, Randall .au is Australia. Maybe they don't have literacy classes where you are.
Chris
The OP's address is: "Franz Preihs"
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 16:49, Franz Preihs wrote:
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities.
BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line?
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux?
Thanks for your answers Franz Preihs
-- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail + 3 Top-Spielfilme auf DVD ++ Jetzt kostenlos testen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ++ Replying from an BT line with BTinternet 1Mb using self purchased Zoom X3 into an Ethernet network no problems at all total plug and play the Zoom is A Firewall of reasonable quality (i aint been hacked yet, no doubt some little twat will try now but what the hell) i use the DHCP on the X3 so i dont have any troubles there ..
it all works Oh and by the way there are quite a few within BT that are willing to assist if you get problems by they are normally the BT end any how .. Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Franz Preihs wrote:
Subject: broadband with Suse Linux
Hey I would like to get broadband for my 2 computers.
What are the best options for it, because I need probably 3-5 Gbite / month download abilities.
BT told me that they don't support linux. I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? I have suse Linux on both of my computers and not yet an internetconnection at home.
What do you think about "onspeed" to speed up the line?
Does anybody have experience with installing broadband and Suse Linux?
Thanks for your answers Franz Preihs
I went broadband using cable about 3 years ago, I had a doostop hard drive with Win98 on it, so I let them do the setup using it, then I switched to linux with no pain. I use a standalone firewall (Ataro Linux) and on one occasion when I had a hardware failure, I just switched SuSE firewall on. BT may not support Linux, but Linux supports BT. When we have had problems, especially with dial-up, asking whether they supported pap or chap and have been met with "We don't support LINEUX (yeuuKKK!)", Pete Nikolic and myself developed a standard reply, "Look pal, if I wanted Linux support, you'd be the last person on the planet I'd ask, I'm quite capable of doing that myself, I just want to know whether you use pap or chap". Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router. One recent trend I've seen are a number of Linux firewalls that only allow for a Windows configuration. There is also a Linux based GPS by TomTom where they say you need Windows to upload the maps, I'd buy one, but I can't be sure it would communicate with Linux, it would probably take one of the USB developers to write support for it. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
Sid Boyce wrote:
Franz Preihs wrote:
BT told me that they don't support linux.
BT may not support Linux, but Linux supports BT. When we have had problems, especially with dial-up, asking whether they supported pap or chap and have been met with "We don't support LINEUX (yeuuKKK!)", Pete Nikolic and myself developed a standard reply, "Look pal, if I wanted Linux support, you'd be the last person on the planet I'd ask, I'm quite capable of doing that myself, I just want to know whether you use pap or chap". Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
I have tried to get answers to technical questions from BT without much success. They were completely unwilling to discuss their mail setup and insisted I run Outlook before they would consider diagnosing a broken POP3 connection. Different techies gave different answers about their configuration, about what they do and do not permit and about how to migrate out! But there's no need to use BT; it's a free market! Go to adslguide.org.uk for info on providers and browse their sites or call them to find out their attitude and competence. Which one you pick will also depend on whether you like big or small companies and what you want in the way of email, webspace, domains, scripting capabilities etc.
I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
All things are possible but an external ADSL-modem-plus-ethernet-router-switch box definitely simplifies life. Mine's a Linksys WAG-54G. Very, very easy to configure using Mozilla or any other browser. Cheers, Dave
Dave Howorth wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Franz Preihs wrote:
BT told me that they don't support linux.
BT may not support Linux, but Linux supports BT. When we have had problems, especially with dial-up, asking whether they supported pap or chap and have been met with "We don't support LINEUX (yeuuKKK!)", Pete Nikolic and myself developed a standard reply, "Look pal, if I wanted Linux support, you'd be the last person on the planet I'd ask, I'm quite capable of doing that myself, I just want to know whether you use pap or chap". Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
I have tried to get answers to technical questions from BT without much success. They were completely unwilling to discuss their mail setup and insisted I run Outlook before they would consider diagnosing a broken POP3 connection. Different techies gave different answers about their configuration, about what they do and do not permit and about how to migrate out!
But there's no need to use BT; it's a free market! Go to adslguide.org.uk for info on providers and browse their sites or call them to find out their attitude and competence. Which one you pick will also depend on whether you like big or small companies and what you want in the way of email, webspace, domains, scripting capabilities etc.
I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router? Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
All things are possible but an external ADSL-modem-plus-ethernet-router-switch box definitely simplifies life. Mine's a Linksys WAG-54G. Very, very easy to configure using Mozilla or any other browser.
Cheers, Dave
Support Desks so-called are normally staffed by what I call intelligent people trained as monkeys, the knowledgeable people are usually not customer facing. Recently I had a problem with the CD-RW/DVD getting garbage from the BIOS on startup, so it was not useable, luckily it cleared itself up, but the supervisor told the guy I was talking to that Linux writes to the BIOS, so it may have corrupted something and they couldn't help. That was from Acer who advertise they can supply laptops with Linux installed. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
I'm trying to monitor packets from a cisco's interface using tcpdump. I'm pushing traffic from my linux box's serial interface to the cisco's serial. The configuration in the cisco will wrap the serial and forward it as IP. My problem is: which command can I use to write to my linux box's serial. If I can use cat, can someone give me the correct syntax? for eg cat file.conf > /dev/tty?
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 07:44, Tony Assan wrote:
I'm trying to monitor packets from a cisco's interface using tcpdump. I'm pushing traffic from my linux box's serial interface to the cisco's serial.
Pushing traffic? Or are you trying to configure the Cisco router? Try using seyon on the linux box to connect to the serial interface on the Cisco router.
The configuration in the cisco will wrap the serial and forward it as IP.
What do you mean by "wrap the serial"? -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989 SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please*
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Schneider"
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 07:44, Tony Assan wrote:
I'm trying to monitor packets from a cisco's interface using tcpdump. I'm pushing traffic from my linux box's serial interface to the cisco's serial.
Pushing traffic? Or are you trying to configure the Cisco router? Try using seyon on the linux box to connect to the serial interface on the Cisco router.
I'm sending traffic to the cisco. Cisco is already configured. I just want to see how the cisco is handling the data it is receiving from the linux serial device. So it is just a test data i'm sending from the linux box through the cisco.
The configuration in the cisco will wrap the serial and forward it as
IP.
What do you mean by "wrap the serial"?
OK. I'm sending serial traffic from serial devices over an IP network. So the cisco will receive the serial stream on its serial port and 'wrap it with' IP to the destination cisco. The destination cisco will then unwrap the packets and deliver serial via its serial port to another serial device. What I want to do is to monitor the IP packets in the cisco to figure out sizes of the wrapped packets. That's all. So I just wand to generate some serial traffic from the linux box into the cisco, and I needa simple linux command to help me with that. A fried suggested I could use cat filename > serial port. But both he and I don't know the correct syntax.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989 SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please*
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Dear Guys I used a e-mail address from Austria and not from Australia. I am living in the UK for the time being and therefore I have got a lot of troubles to get a cheap internet connection. Franz Preihs -- GMX ProMail mit bestem Virenschutz http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail +++ Empfehlung der Redaktion +++ Internet Professionell 10/04 +++
On Thursday 02 December 2004 11:40, Dave Howorth wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Franz Preihs wrote:
BT told me that they don't support linux.
BT may not support Linux, but Linux supports BT. When we have had problems, especially with dial-up, asking whether they supported pap or chap and have been met with "We don't support LINEUX (yeuuKKK!)", Pete Nikolic and myself developed a standard reply, "Look pal, if I wanted Linux support, you'd be the last person on the planet I'd ask, I'm quite capable of doing that myself, I just want to know whether you use pap or chap". Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
I have tried to get answers to technical questions from BT without much success. They were completely unwilling to discuss their mail setup and insisted I run Outlook before they would consider diagnosing a broken POP3 connection. Different techies gave different answers about their configuration, about what they do and do not permit and about how to migrate out!
But there's no need to use BT; it's a free market! Go to adslguide.org.uk for info on providers and browse their sites or call them to find out their attitude and competence. Which one you pick will also depend on whether you like big or small companies and what you want in the way of email, webspace, domains, scripting capabilities etc.
I got to know that I have to get a router. Is that right? If yes - Is it difficult to configure a router?
Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
All things are possible but an external ADSL-modem-plus-ethernet-router-switch box definitely simplifies life. Mine's a Linksys WAG-54G. Very, very easy to configure using Mozilla or any other browser.
Cheers, Dave
I've been using UK Free Software Network (http://www.ukfsn.org/) adsl with various versions of SuSE (currently 9.2) for a year or so and would thoroughly recommend their service. Profits go to fund free software. Mike
On Thursday 02 December 2004 4:33 am, Sid Boyce wrote:
Pete uses BT broadband with a Linksys router and I think he is contemplating inserting the Linux firewall between his internal network and the router.
I have an internal network behind a hardware firewall in my router and behind SuSE's Firewall2 on my desktop. I'm using Charter cable. I'm setup modem -> router(with firewall) ->desktop (SuSE Firewall) ->lan. Works fine using SuSE's default settings. I only access the internet with my desktop. Rich -- Rich Matson Reno, Nv. USA
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Brad Bourn
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C. Richard Matson
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Chris
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Damon Register
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Dave Howorth
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Franz Preihs
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Jerry Feldman
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Kastus
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Ken Schneider
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michael norman
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peter Nikolic
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Randall R Schulz
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Richard Fieldsend
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Sid Boyce
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Tony Assan