Ciro Iriarte wrote:

2008/10/18 Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net>:

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Nvidia released new driver that has long list of changes that fixed number of issues, some of them mentioned on this mail list:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120679

Thanks to Basil for information. The thread about was on opensuse-offtopic mail list.

-- Regards, Rajko --

Would be nice to have ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ updated to 177.80 too...

Why wait? As I stated in the "offtopic" list, the driver was made available by nVidia on 7 October (and today is 20 October, my time). Heck of a long time for openSUSE to come up with an upgrade. In any case, isn't one of the redeeming features of Linux distros. is the ability to "do your own thing" without having to wait for "fixes" from "The Company"? Are we becoming too dependent, like the MS et alia brain-dead users, so that we cannot install the latest piece of software without having to be totally reliant on "The Company" to provide us with the necessary new file? Download the latest nVidia file from nVidia and compile it against the latest kernel. Be BRAVE! Ciao. -- If you go through life with your head in the sand, all people will see is an arse. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Would be nice to have ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ updated to 177.80 too...

Why wait? As I stated in the "offtopic" list, the driver was made available by nVidia on 7 October (and today is 20 October, my time). Heck of a long time for openSUSE to come up with an upgrade.

In any case, isn't one of the redeeming features of Linux distros. is the ability to "do your own thing" without having to wait for "fixes" from "The Company"?

No, actually the key feature is the nice package managment. Doing our own thing would break that. ;)

Exactly. We can all go and manually install the driver... sure.. fine.. but then the next time a kernel fix comes out, and we restart... poof... CLI only until we recompile the kernel modules. That is a MAJOR pain to deal with when you are remotely administering or supporting openSUSE installs.... and an equal pain on my regular computers at home. I am tired of spending time twiddling when I don't have to. That said... I've been running the 177 drivers for almost a month now... :-P C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Scott Newton wrote:

On Monday 20 October 2008 19:59:07 Clayton wrote:

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Exactly. We can all go and manually install the driver... sure.. fine.. but then the next time a kernel fix comes out, and we restart... poof... CLI only until we recompile the kernel modules. That is a MAJOR pain to deal with when you are remotely administering or supporting openSUSE installs.... and an equal pain on my regular computers at home. I am tired of spending time twiddling when I don't have to.

Of course, all these problems would go away if the drivers were open-source... :-(

I used a workaround for this 3rd party kernel module problem: An /etc/init.d script that checks at every boot whether the required kernel modules are in the matching /lib/modules and recompiles them if they are missing. Currently we use this for VMware Workstation and Nvidia Driver. ==CUT== #!/bin/sh ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: susefix # Required-Start: $network $local_fs $remote_fs $syslog # X-Start-Before: earlyxdm # Required-Stop: # Default-Start: 5 # Default-Stop: 0 1 2 6 # Short-Description: Workaround for Suse Bugs # Description: Workaround for Suse Bugs ### END INIT INFO test "$1" = "stop" && exit . /etc/rc.status . /etc/sysconfig/adn-network rc_reset # Detect kernel updates and missing modules for VMware and Nvidia. # Compile modules if they are missing. kernel=`uname -r` if [ -x /usr/bin/vmware -a ! -f /lib/modules/$kernel/misc/vmnet.o ]; then echo "No VMware kernel modules for running kernel ..." perl /var/adm/autoinstall/files/vmware-adnconfig.pl --default EULA_AGREED=yes fi if [ ! -f /lib/modules/$kernel/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko ]; then echo "No Nvidia kernel modules for running kernel ..." nvdriver=`echo /var/adm/autoinstall/files/NVIDIA-Linux-* |tail -1` sh $nvdriver -N -s -k "$kernel" fi rc_status -v rc_exit ==CUT== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org