That would work GREAT, if CRON ran the /etc/profile. But it doesn't! /etc/profile contains the following code which makes your pathing information a bit easier PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin for DIR in ~/bin/$MACHINE ~/bin ; do test -d $DIR && PATH=$DIR:$PATH done The result of this is (echo $PATH): /sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games/bin:/usr/games Using a test script, I echo'd PATH in my CRON script, and it looks like this: /usr/bin:/bin Any other ideas? Joe --- Joshua Lee wrote:

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On Saturday 16 February 2002 03:49 pm, Joseph Hobbs wrote:

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I need to update the PATH variable on my box for EVERYONE. To do this, I just created a

On Sunday 17 February 2002 08:15 pm, Joshua Lee wrote: profile.local

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script and export the path there.

/etc/profile.local should work.

If that doesn't work try putting it in /etc/profile.local; and adding a command to /etc/profile at the end to run /etc/profile.local (I don't have an /etc/profile.local so I'm naively repeating the comment on top of /etc/profile. ;-) ) -- You have a tendency to feel you are superior to most computers.

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I agree that everything should be absolute as far as calling commands is concerened! This script I was trying to get to was exactly as you specified (setenv). To remedy the situation, I just created a link from the script to one of the two paths that existed in cron's $PATH info. This allows me to execute the setenv script from anywhere, without allowing me to run all of the friggin scripts in that same dir (this is GOOD). Joe --- James Mohr wrote:

Personally, I see it as a security feature that cron does not behave in the same way as the login shell. If users are not the one submitting the cron jobs, you *could* set the path in the /etc/crontab and run the jobs from there.

When I write my scripts, I am cafeful to always use absolute paths, even for mundane things like grep, find and so forth. That way I know exactly what is being called each time. In many scripts, I have files that define "global" variables and I access it from each script as necessary. Also be careful of the phrase "execute my /etc/profile.local in each script". If you executed it, simply by calling the name of the setenv script, the variables would only be valid in that script, but not in the script that called it. Instead, you need to souce the file ". setenv".

Further, you do not have the danger that some user changes the order of the paths in .profile, which may end up breaking things. I did UNIX tech support for four years and I had a customer once who changed the order of the PATH. The created there own tool called "sort", which ended up breaking a number of tools. IMHO the tools were bugging since they did not use full paths, but changing the order of the directories was not necessarily a good thing.

Regards,

jimmo

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Hey all, quick question.

I need to update the PATH variable on my box for EVERYONE. To do this, I just created a

...

script and export the path there.

Since CRON does not run the profile, it doesn't

...

up the new path. Because of this, my scripts can't located the setenv script (which sets my environment for all of my scripts/apps).

How can I set it up so that it ALWAYS picks up

On Saturday 16 February 2002 21:49, Joseph Hobbs wrote: profile.local pick that

...

path?

I was told that a workaround would be to execute my /etc/profile.local in each script. That would work, but it seems clunky. Is this all I've got?

Joe

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Yup, I did. I wasn't aware that csh had a built-in command setenv. Of course, this shouldnt be a big issue, considering I don't even have csh installed on my box! (unless it goes by another name) Joe --- Joshua Lee wrote:

On Monday 18 February 2002 08:14 am, Joseph Hobbs wrote:

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cron's $PATH info. This allows me to execute the setenv script from anywhere, without allowing me to

Wait a minute, you named a script "setenv"? Are you aware that this is a built-in command of the (commonly used) csh shell?

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That was a great idea! regards, jimmo On Monday 18 February 2002 14:14, Joseph Hobbs wrote:

I agree that everything should be absolute as far as calling commands is concerened! This script I was trying to get to was exactly as you specified (setenv).

To remedy the situation, I just created a link from the script to one of the two paths that existed in cron's $PATH info. This allows me to execute the setenv script from anywhere, without allowing me to run all of the friggin scripts in that same dir (this is GOOD).

Joe

--- James Mohr wrote:

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Personally, I see it as a security feature that cron does not behave in the same way as the login shell. If users are not the one submitting the cron jobs, you *could* set the path in the /etc/crontab and run the jobs from there.

When I write my scripts, I am cafeful to always use absolute paths, even for mundane things like grep, find and so forth. That way I know exactly what is being called each time. In many scripts, I have files that define "global" variables and I access it from each script as necessary. Also be careful of the phrase "execute my /etc/profile.local in each script". If you executed it, simply by calling the name of the setenv script, the variables would only be valid in that script, but not in the script that called it. Instead, you need to souce the file ". setenv".

Further, you do not have the danger that some user changes the order of the paths in .profile, which may end up breaking things. I did UNIX tech support for four years and I had a customer once who changed the order of the PATH. The created there own tool called "sort", which ended up breaking a number of tools. IMHO the tools were bugging since they did not use full paths, but changing the order of the directories was not necessarily a good thing.

Regards,

jimmo

On Saturday 16 February 2002 21:49, Joseph Hobbs

wrote:

...

Hey all, quick question.

I need to update the PATH variable on my box for EVERYONE. To do this, I just created a

profile.local

...

script and export the path there.

Since CRON does not run the profile, it doesn't

pick

...

up the new path. Because of this, my scripts

can't

...

located the setenv script (which sets my

environment

...

for all of my scripts/apps).

How can I set it up so that it ALWAYS picks up

that

...

path?

I was told that a workaround would be to execute

my

...

/etc/profile.local in each script. That would

work,

...

but it seems clunky. Is this all I've got?

Joe

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