On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD. Are these prices correct and if so, why are they now 60 instead of 90? -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs
houghi schrieb:
On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD.
Are these prices correct
Yes. Please refer to http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0419.html
and if so, why are they now 60 instead of 90?
To make you happy? Regards, Carl-Daniel
Hi, On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
houghi schrieb:
On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD.
Are these prices correct
Yes. Please refer to http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0419.html
and if so, why are they now 60 instead of 90?
To make you happy?
I guess it is simply the market... But the lower price allows faster release cycles again - not the worst. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
houghi schrieb:
On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD. Are these prices correct Yes. Please refer to http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0419.html and if so, why are they now 60 instead of 90? To make you happy? I guess it is simply the market... But the lower price allows faster release cycles again - not the worst.
Seems pretty logical to me as well. Novell's plan undoubtedly is to widen its user base, and that's happening through its SUSE Linux distribution. And they are doing that by 1) the openSUSE move 2) substantially lowering the price of the boxed set What they hope for is: more users + larger community = more SLES, support, consulting Well, I'm not working for Novell/SUSE, but it seems to be a pretty consistent idea to me. At least it makes sense. The nice thing is, it's to everyone's benefit. Let's hope for the future that Novell really makes money out of its Linux strategy. The better Novell's wealth, the more weight they can put into [SUSE] Linux. The openSUSE initiative quite obviously seems to be a reaction to the fact that their earnings were (much?) lower than what they expected for SUSE Linux and SLES. I think it's a pretty smart move. I just hope they're going to get the money they're investing back quite soon, because the opposite, on the long term, could mean layoffs at SUSE or maybe even hopping down from their Linux strategy one day. Novell is not about philantropy, they're making business, whatever the strategy is. But we're still far away from that, and let's hope the openSUSE move will also be to their very own benefit ;) cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDILxmr3NMWliFcXcRAnTWAKC2kxtIihwhBUMAmkm60rIgNxsPwACgjU8e +GhE1XH8DR+U8slJEm/k9Bw= =4gFp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi, On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
houghi schrieb:
On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD. Are these prices correct
Yes. Please refer to http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0419.html
and if so, why are they now 60 instead of 90? To make you happy?
I guess it is simply the market... But the lower price allows faster release cycles again - not the worst.
Seems pretty logical to me as well. Novell's plan undoubtedly is to widen its user base, and that's happening through its SUSE Linux distribution. And they are doing that by 1) the openSUSE move 2) substantially lowering the price of the boxed set
What they hope for is: more users + larger community = more SLES, support, consulting
Well, I'm not working for Novell/SUSE, but it seems to be a pretty consistent idea to me. At least it makes sense. The nice thing is, it's to everyone's benefit.
Let's hope for the future that Novell really makes money out of its Linux strategy. The better Novell's wealth, the more weight they can put into [SUSE] Linux.
The openSUSE initiative quite obviously seems to be a reaction to the fact that their earnings were (much?) lower than what they expected for SUSE Linux and SLES. I think it's a pretty smart move. I just hope they're going to get the money they're investing back quite soon, because the opposite, on the long term, could mean layoffs at SUSE or maybe even hopping down from their Linux strategy one day. Novell is not about philantropy, they're making business, whatever the strategy is.
But we're still far away from that, and let's hope the openSUSE move will also be to their very own benefit ;)
Novell is by far a bigger player than SuSE was. So I guess "making more money with more cheaper boxes" is not the goal. Novell does not need that (it is just peanuts for them) - I guess Novell simply adopted Linus' sentence of "world domination" for their own business plans. Later than the others, but obviously not too late... Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
houghi schrieb:
On http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/09/07/HNsuselinux10_1.html I see that the price will be 59EUR or 59USD. Are these prices correct
Yes. Please refer to http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0419.html
I was perticularly pleased to read: "The retail boxes will probably contain some stuff which can not be included in the download edition because of lisencing issues, like Sun's Java etc. " That makes the box worth buying to me. I bought 9.0 but I've been using download versions since. The thing I like best about SuSE linux is that you get a usable system from the moment that the install finishes, not like windows where you end up hunting all over the web for players for this, plugins for that. I'm hoping to see a YaST repository set up for the non free (as in beer) stuff so the download users can have an easy route to complete functionality. -- Paul
Hi, On Friday 09 September 2005 11:43, Paul Howie wrote:
I was perticularly pleased to read:
"The retail boxes will probably contain some stuff which can not be included in the download edition because of lisencing issues, like Sun's Java etc. "
That makes the box worth buying to me.
We also decided to expand the scope of the "free" installation support (available to those that buy the product): Additional topics that have not been covered by the free service so far but will be covered with 10.0: ° Basic configuration of a ALSA supported PCI sound card. ° Basic configuration of a locally attched compatible printer with YaST2. ° Basic configuration of an IDE CD writer for use with k3b (CD burning app) without changing the jumper setting. ° Configuration of a supported PCI ethernet card for LAN access with either DHCP (client) or static IP. This does not include the configartaion of the LAN or any other computers or network components. It also does not cover the configuration of the computer as a router. Fault analysis is limited to checking for the propper loading of the kernel module and the correct local network settings. ° Configuration of an e-mail client for collecting mail from a POP3 account (only Evolution and KMail). Fault analysis is limited to checking of the propper settings in the e-mail client. Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, NTS EMEA Partner Relationship Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 421 3064385 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 421 3064387 - hartmut.meyer@novell.com
On 09/09/05, Hartmut Meyer <hartmut.meyer@novell.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Friday 09 September 2005 11:43, Paul Howie wrote:
I was perticularly pleased to read:
"The retail boxes will probably contain some stuff which can not be included in the download edition because of lisencing issues, like Sun's Java etc. "
That makes the box worth buying to me.
We also decided to expand the scope of the "free" installation support (available to those that buy the product): Additional topics that have not been covered by the free service so far but will be covered with 10.0:
*snip* Despite being entitled to support I've never needed it, YaST seems to do pretty much everything quickly and easily these days. Nice to know it's there though. -- Paul
Paul Howie wrote:
Despite being entitled to support I've never needed it, YaST seems to do pretty much everything quickly and easily these days.
no did I. But do you know there are people not even able to type an url correctly? if ever one of them get a SUSE 10.0, support will be very good. A very important thing whould be installing and configuring msm messenger client :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
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