After replacing a failed hard disk a few weeks ago, I re-installed SuSE 9.3 from DVD. When I login to a KDE session, there's a DVD icon on the desktop, and if I eject and re-instert, the "SU930.001" icon goes away and comes back. I can browse its contents, etc., in Konqueror. Yet, when I tried to update KDE with YaST, it went through all the finding and downloading and package checking (hundreds of packages), and then decided that it needed some stuff from the DVD... and says it cannot find the device. Yet, Konq and the desktop think that the DVD is: Type: Mounted DVD Location: /(media) Ownership User: root Group: root Base URL file:///media/SU930_001 Device Node: /dev/hdc So, why can't YaST see it? How do I make YaST see it? If this problem was dealt with recently, what was the keyword for archive search? I've looked through hundreds of KDE update and YaST DVD messages. Thanks, Kevin
On Sunday 14 August 2005 12:04 pm, elefino wrote:
So, why can't YaST see it? How do I make YaST see it?
Make sure that the dvd is set as an installation source in Yast. Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.8-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
On Sunday 14 August 2005 15:30, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Sunday 14 August 2005 12:04 pm, elefino wrote:
So, why can't YaST see it? How do I make YaST see it?
Make sure that the dvd is set as an installation source in Yast.
Initially, YaST was not going to the KDE repository (I had cut and pasted the URL from posts in this list, and what I had seemed to match what two different people had suggested to others in the recent past). That URL and the DVD entry were the only two items in the Installation Source list. Not having any better ideas, I changed their order on the list. No joy. Then I removed the DVD installation source and tried again, and suddenly YaST was showing me all the new KDE packages (including just a couple of minor dependency issues which I resolved). So I told it to go ahead. It began churning, downloading and doing whatever it does, and then it decided that it needed a couple of things from the DVD. Well, this was as far as I'd ever gotten in the procedure, so I left that dialog open and tried to reinstall the DVD as a source, while the KDE update was waiting. Then I went back to the KDE update. No go it won't see the DVD. Since then, I aborted the update, and shut off the PC (thunderstorms were forecast) for a couple of days. Now when I look at what YaST has for Installation Source, it looks like (excuse the awkward line breaks): Status Name URL On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On dvd://// cd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:/// I don't know where all those duplicates came from. I've only ever had just the one (DVD) entry until I recently added the "ftp://ftp.gwdg.de...." entry, then it was two, and then (as mentioned above) I deleted the dvd entry for a while, then tried to put it back... once. Kevin
On Sunday 14 August 2005 6:11 pm, elefino wrote:
Since then, I aborted the update, and shut off the PC (thunderstorms were forecast) for a couple of days. Now when I look at what YaST has for Installation Source, it looks like (excuse the awkward line breaks):
Status Name URL On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/updat e_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On dvd://// cd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:///
I don't know where all those duplicates came from. I've only ever had just the one (DVD) entry until I recently added the "ftp://ftp.gwdg.de...." entry, then it was two, and then (as mentioned above) I deleted the dvd entry for a while, then tried to put it back... once.
Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc Scott --- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.8-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
On Sunday 14 August 2005 21:16, Scott Leighton wrote:
On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On dvd://// cd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:///
I don't know where all those duplicates came from. [...] Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
Let me just switch off the YaST "bogus entry" generator... "CLICK!" There. :-) Kevin
Today, my "Change Source of Installation" dialog says: On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// cd:/// When I attempt to install apcupsd, I get the dialog demanding that I insert DVD1. ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)[/media.1/media] In answer to my previous message in this thread, Scott Leighton had said:
Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
I'm trying to see how my second entry is different... I really am... but I just don't see it. It also makes no difference whether I move that entry to the top of the list, switch off the other entries, etc. Same result. Recall from my earlier post that that same DVD is eminently visible to the rest of the system, since it raises an icon on the KDE desktop, and since I can browse it in Konqueror. Does my fstab reveal anything useful? /dev/hda3 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/hdb3 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2 /var ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/hda2 /windows/C vfat defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 swap swap pri=42 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/dvdrecorder /media/dvdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0 By the way, the entry /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 Is no longer valid. The CD recorder is physically gone from the system. I was gonna save it until I confirmed that I could write both DVDs and CDs with the dvdrecorder. The /dev/dvdrecorder entry should be ok, since I installed SuSE 9.3 a month ago, using that drive... and Konq sees it and the system can boot from it... yadda-yadda-yadda. Of course, I have not yet tried to burn a CD or DVD with it. Have I messed up the fstab? Could that be what is making YaST sneer at the DVD drive? I read man fstab/info fstab and apparently did not grasp the meaning and implications of the universe... Google found me an "fstab HowTo" that was a little more friendly, but I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong, if anything. Or should I be looking in an entirely different direction? Kevin
On Monday 15 August 2005 21:52, elefino wrote:
Does my fstab reveal anything useful?
/dev/hda3 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/hdb3 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2 /var ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/hda2 /windows/C vfat defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 swap swap pri=42 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/dvdrecorder /media/dvdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0
Duh! ...... user option? For /dev/dvdrecorder? Is that what I should have in there? K
On Monday 15 August 2005 6:52 pm, elefino wrote:
Today, my "Change Source of Installation" dialog says:
On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/updat e_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// cd:///
When I attempt to install apcupsd, I get the dialog demanding that I insert DVD1.
ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)[/media.1/media]
In answer to my previous message in this thread, Scott Leighton had said:
Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
Kevin, The display above is very different from your original post. Your original post quoted below shows duplicate dvd entries, you even comment on them yourself. Those are the bogus entries I referred to.
Status Name URL On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/updat e_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On dvd://// cd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:///
I don't know where all those duplicates came from. I've only ever had just the one (DVD) entry until I recently added the "ftp://ftp.gwdg.de...." entry, then it was two, and then (as mentioned above) I deleted the dvd entry for a while, then tried to put it back... once.
Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.8-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:03, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 6:52 pm, elefino wrote:
Today, my "Change Source of Installation" dialog says:
On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/ updat e_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// cd:///
When I attempt to install apcupsd, I get the dialog demanding that I insert DVD1.
ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)[/media.1/media]
In answer to my previous message in this thread, Scott Leighton had said:
Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
Kevin,
The display above is very different from your original post. Your original post quoted below shows duplicate dvd entries, you even comment on them yourself. Those are the bogus entries I referred to.
Er... I don't understand. Didn't I show above that I had gotten rid of the bogus entries? Or am I totally misreading what is going on? To re-iterate from my point of view, the symptom that I experienced was that I could not get YaST Software Install to find my DVD (which at least some parts of the system seem to have no trouble finding... like mount, for instance). Anyway, somebody (you?) told me to ensure that I had the DVD included in my Installation Source". I published the Installation Source list to show that it was there (or something pretending to be it...). You then pointed out what you called bogus entries -- to me they were just entries that I didn't understand. They had just appeared for no reason that I knew. So in this latest installment of the continuing saga, I published my revised list, showing that I'd taken your advice and removed the duplicates (assuming that *they* were what you meant by bogus entries). But I still have the original problem. So, I expanded my horizons a bit (probably in precisely the wrong direction, but my entire trouble-shooting technique consists of grasping at straws...) and included my fstab as a possible next place to inquire, since doing what you first suggested didn't seem to have addressed my original symptom (not my damnfoolishness, the *other* symptom). Given your reaction, though, should I understand that I didn't remove the entries that you actually wanted me to remove? I thought it was the multiple repetitions of: "On dvd://// dvd:///" Kevin (below text kept for continuity)
Status Name URL On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/ updat e_for_9.3/yast-source On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc On dvd://// cd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On dvd://// dvd:/// On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:///
I don't know where all those duplicates came from. I've only ever had just the one (DVD) entry until I recently added the "ftp://ftp.gwdg.de...." entry, then it was two, and then (as mentioned above) I deleted the dvd entry for a while, then tried to put it back... once.
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:23 -0400, elefino wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 22:03, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Monday 15 August 2005 6:52 pm, elefino wrote:
Today, my "Change Source of Installation" dialog says:
On SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 dvd:///
Delete the following one:
On dvd://// dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
On supplementary KDE 3.4 update ftp://gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/ update_for_9.3/yast-source
On dvd://// cd:///
Delete the one above, bogus
When I attempt to install apcupsd, I get the dialog demanding that I insert DVD1.
ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)[/media.1/media]
In answer to my previous message in this thread, Scott Leighton had
said:
Well, I would get rid of those bogus entries. The only valid one is the very last one, except mine lists the device as dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
YaST devises it's own way of connecting to the media which is why you can mount the DVD and not be able to read when trying to add software.
Worst case delete ALL entries and re-create the DVD entry and the KDE entry. If you have lots of room on your hard drive you can copy the contents of the DVD to the HD and use it as a YaST source. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
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