[opensuse] Suse 11.3 ATI nightmare please help
On my work PC I have an older ati x1650 graphics card running 2 Dell CRT monitors. This machine was running 11.2 just fine with the ati legacy drivers. after up grading to 11.3 for some other needs. I can't configure my monitors. In KDE personal settings it won't let me set the VGA higher than 800x600 at 60Hz and it defaults the Agp output to 1024X768 at 80 Hz anything that is saved here does not stick it reverts back to the low settings upon reboot. that I have tried using an old xconfig file( modified for the radeon driver), adding settings to the xconfig.d file, that hangs up the system at boot. Following some parts of the Ubuntu Wiki (Suse wiki no help at all) I can get my system configured to 1400x1050 @85Hz with side by side screens using xrandr commands so I know everything can work, but there is no way to make this permanent. I followed the Wiki to try and put these commands into my .Xprofile, or /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup, but these files do not exist and adding them hangs up my system. I would try my old ati drivers, but I have been told they are not compatible with the newer kernel. So where do I go from here ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/04/2010 02:38 PM, Robert Cunningham wrote:
On my work PC I have an older ati x1650 graphics card running 2 Dell CRT monitors. This machine was running 11.2 just fine with the ati legacy drivers. after up grading to 11.3 for some other needs. I can't configure my monitors. In KDE personal settings it won't let me set the VGA higher than 800x600 at 60Hz and it defaults the Agp output to 1024X768 at 80 Hz anything that is saved here does not stick it reverts back to the low settings upon reboot. that I have tried using an old xconfig file( modified for the radeon driver), adding settings to the xconfig.d file, that hangs up the system at boot. Following some parts of the Ubuntu Wiki (Suse wiki no help at all) I can get my system configured to 1400x1050 @85Hz with side by side screens using xrandr commands so I know everything can work, but there is no way to make this permanent. I followed the Wiki to try and put these commands into my .Xprofile, or /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup, but these files do not exist and adding them hangs up my system. I would try my old ati drivers, but I have been told they are not compatible with the newer kernel. So where do I go from here ?
You are in luck, the xf86-video-ati driver is in the best shape it has ever been for 11.3 (especially since there is no hope of porting the 11.0 fglrx driver forward for 11.3....) I suspect your are missing the radeon driver and you are booting into framebuffer graphics. Check that you have the radeon driver installed with: lsmod | grep radeon You should see 4-5 instances of it being used in the output. If you don't get all the happy radeon output, chances are you don't have the radeon driver installed (or installed correctly) My 11.3 box is not up at the moment, but the generic name for the package you will need for the driver is xf86-video-ati....rpm. I don't recall suse's naming convention right off-hand, but you could search your installed packages to see if you have anything radeon or ati related with: rpm -qa | grep -i "radeon\|ati" also try the following just in case the naming convention is strange: rpm -qa | grep -i driver-video I would do a webpin search for you, but the whole webpin system seems to be broken as hell for all of 11.3. If you can't find the ati driver (may be in the generic driver package "xorg-x11-driver-video", then look at the output of 'lspci -v' and get the release number for the x1650 (no not 1650, but R430 or R5XX) if the x1650 is an R5XX or R6XX, then you can use the radeonhd driver as well (although I believe the 1650 was still and R4XX card) REMEMBER: YOU DO NOT NEED AN xorg.conf file. That may be part of your problem if you are using an old xorg.conf file. Since xorg 7.2 X will start with an intelligent set of defaults on its own, and, in fact, if the current kernel is doing KMS early, then you probably do NOT want an xorg unless you have really special needs. Give those options a try and report back. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/05/2010 02:27 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
You are in luck, the xf86-video-ati driver is in the best shape it has ever been for 11.3 (especially since there is no hope of porting the 11.0 fglrx driver forward for 11.3....)
I suspect your are missing the radeon driver and you are booting into framebuffer graphics. Check that you have the radeon driver installed with:
lsmod | grep radeon
You should see 4-5 instances of it being used in the output. If you don't get all the happy radeon output, chances are you don't have the radeon driver installed (or installed correctly)
My 11.3 box is not up at the moment, but the generic name for the package you will need for the driver is xf86-video-ati....rpm. I don't recall suse's naming convention right off-hand, but you could search your installed packages to see if you have anything radeon or ati related with:
rpm -qa | grep -i "radeon\|ati"
also try the following just in case the naming convention is strange:
rpm -qa | grep -i driver-video
I would do a webpin search for you, but the whole webpin system seems to be broken as hell for all of 11.3.
If you can't find the ati driver (may be in the generic driver package "xorg-x11-driver-video", then look at the output of 'lspci -v' and get the release number for the x1650 (no not 1650, but R430 or R5XX) if the x1650 is an R5XX or R6XX, then you can use the radeonhd driver as well (although I believe the 1650 was still and R4XX card)
REMEMBER: YOU DO NOT NEED AN xorg.conf file. That may be part of your problem if you are using an old xorg.conf file. Since xorg 7.2 X will start with an intelligent set of defaults on its own, and, in fact, if the current kernel is doing KMS early, then you probably do NOT want an xorg unless you have really special needs.
Give those options a try and report back.
I finally got my monitor options to stick by placing the xrandr commands in my xinitrc file, but that only works when you are logged into KDE . It seems I am running the radeon driver, but it is not running very well. With some screen effects running the computer will hang for a few seconds and then resume, then it will turn off composting and it still runs a lot slower than it did under 11.1 So I have no clue as to where to go from here the output of isomod lsmod | grep radeon radeon 792465 2 ttm 55288 1 radeon drm_kms_helper 29179 1 radeon drm 176922 4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit 5572 1 radeon i2c_core 26632 5 i2c_i801,radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit lspci -v 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] (rev 9e) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 2100 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 24 Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at c800 [size=256] Memory at ff8f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at ff8c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Kernel driver in use: radeon 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] (rev 9e) Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 2101 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32 Memory at ff8e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 and rpm -qa |grep -i driver-video xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_20100325_f6c9991-1.13.i586 xorg-x11-driver-video-intel-legacy-2.9.1-1.9.i586 xorg-x11-driver-video-7.5-15.2.i586 xorg-x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.15_20100401_bfb95cc-1.10.i586 -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In practice, there is Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/10/2010 3:04 PM, Robert Cunningham wrote:
On 08/05/2010 02:27 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
You are in luck, the xf86-video-ati driver is in the best shape it has ever been for 11.3 (especially since there is no hope of porting the 11.0 fglrx driver forward for 11.3....)
I suspect your are missing the radeon driver and you are booting into framebuffer graphics. Check that you have the radeon driver installed with:
lsmod | grep radeon
You should see 4-5 instances of it being used in the output. If you don't get all the happy radeon output, chances are you don't have the radeon driver installed (or installed correctly)
My 11.3 box is not up at the moment, but the generic name for the package you will need for the driver is xf86-video-ati....rpm. I don't recall suse's naming convention right off-hand, but you could search your installed packages to see if you have anything radeon or ati related with:
rpm -qa | grep -i "radeon\|ati"
also try the following just in case the naming convention is strange:
rpm -qa | grep -i driver-video
I would do a webpin search for you, but the whole webpin system seems to be broken as hell for all of 11.3.
If you can't find the ati driver (may be in the generic driver package "xorg-x11-driver-video", then look at the output of 'lspci -v' and get the release number for the x1650 (no not 1650, but R430 or R5XX) if the x1650 is an R5XX or R6XX, then you can use the radeonhd driver as well (although I believe the 1650 was still and R4XX card)
REMEMBER: YOU DO NOT NEED AN xorg.conf file. That may be part of your problem if you are using an old xorg.conf file. Since xorg 7.2 X will start with an intelligent set of defaults on its own, and, in fact, if the current kernel is doing KMS early, then you probably do NOT want an xorg unless you have really special needs.
Give those options a try and report back.
I finally got my monitor options to stick by placing the xrandr commands in my xinitrc file, but that only works when you are logged into KDE .
But will it run Google Earth? I've not yet tried with my Radeon Mobility X1400. Hoping to avoid yet another disappointment I suppose... -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 00:04, Robert Cunningham wrote:
running very well. With some screen effects running the computer will hang for a few seconds and then resume, then it will turn off composting and it still runs a lot slower than it did under 11.1 So I have no clue as to where to go from here
This hang thing might be a separate issue. Some people have reported problems similar to this on the list... and I've experienced it as well. The short of it is, on some hardware, Kernel 2.6.34 and Xorg run up the CPU to 100% and your system pauses or hangs momentarily. CPU load drops and you're back to normal... then at some random time it happens again. My solution was to simply bump up to the 2.6.35 kernel from the Kernel:Head repository. Another solution suggested by another list member (I forget who now... sorry) was to boot with vmalloc=192M. Testing the newer kernel or booting with the additional boot parameter are both fairly simple non-destructive tests you can do to see if it sorts the short hang you're experiencing. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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