Confusing Hardware Problem
I've just added a third removable SCSI drive to my mail box (this one running SuSE 7.1). Prior to adding this drive I had one drive running win 98se (which I've discussed prior) and the other SuSE 7.1 The box dual boots with LILO running as the boot manager. With just the two drives turned on, LILO runs as expected and I can boot into either OS. With the new drive turned on (I just did a reformat on it and there is no OS installed, just a low level DOS fdisk format) all goes well during boot until LILO starts and then elects to stop at LI with the blinking cursor. I'm totally lost as to how I can boot with this drive on so I can add another OS to it. Would someone kindly point me to my obvious error. Since it's a SCSI drive, it has to be on at boot up in order to been seen and thus used. Many thanks, dave -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.1 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe
On Saturday 22 May 2004 9:26 pm, David Johanson wrote:
I've just added a third removable SCSI drive to my mail box (this one running SuSE 7.1). Prior to adding this drive I had one drive running win 98se (which I've discussed prior) and the other SuSE 7.1 The box dual boots with LILO running as the boot manager. With just the two drives turned on, LILO runs as expected and I can boot into either OS. With the new drive turned on (I just did a reformat on it and there is no OS installed, just a low level DOS fdisk format) all goes well during boot until LILO starts and then elects to stop at LI with the blinking cursor.
I'm totally lost as to how I can boot with this drive on so I can add another OS to it. Would someone kindly point me to my obvious error. Since it's a SCSI drive, it has to be on at boot up in order to been seen and thus used.
Many thanks,
When you say removable, I'm assuming you mean the whole drive is removed or not from the scsi bus, rather than media being removed from a drive which is permanently on the bus. Just a guess, the removable disk has a scsi id between the other 2 drives. Hence, when it is off bus, you have /dev/{a,b} and when it is on bus you have /dev/{a,B,c}, where B is the removable drive and old a,b become a,c. Thus LILO is confused. Maybe? Vince
Vince Littler wrote:
On Saturday 22 May 2004 9:26 pm, David Johanson wrote:
I've just added a third removable SCSI drive to my mail box (this one running SuSE 7.1). Prior to adding this drive I had one drive running win 98se (which I've discussed prior) and the other SuSE 7.1 The box dual boots with LILO running as the boot manager. With just the two drives turned on, LILO runs as expected and I can boot into either OS. With the new drive turned on (I just did a reformat on it and there is no OS installed, just a low level DOS fdisk format) all goes well during boot until LILO starts and then elects to stop at LI with the blinking cursor.
I'm totally lost as to how I can boot with this drive on so I can add another OS to it. Would someone kindly point me to my obvious error. Since it's a SCSI drive, it has to be on at boot up in order to been seen and thus used.
Many thanks,
When you say removable, I'm assuming you mean the whole drive is removed or not from the scsi bus, rather than media being removed from a drive which is permanently on the bus.
Correct
Just a guess, the removable disk has a scsi id between the other 2 drives. Hence, when it is off bus, you have /dev/{a,b} and when it is on bus you have /dev/{a,B,c}, where B is the removable drive and old a,b become a,c. Thus LILO is confused. Maybe?
Right on the money. The drives are pinned as 12, 13, and 15, and display as c, d, and f respectively on the drive light displays. So I never paid any attention to the SCSI readout on boot. Shame on me. ;-( The SCSI readout shows the drives as a=12, b=13, and c=10 just as you suggested. Now the question is where lies the problem with the drive and it's case. Time for some sleuthing.
Vince
My thanks, dave -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.1 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe
-----Original Message-----
From: David Johanson
I've just added a third removable SCSI drive to my mail box (this one running SuSE 7.1). Prior to adding this drive I had one drive running win 98se (which I've discussed prior) and the other SuSE 7.1 The box dual boots with LILO running as the boot manager. With just the two drives turned on, LILO runs as expected and I can boot into either OS. With the new drive turned on (I just did a reformat on it and there is no OS installed, just a low level DOS fdisk format) all goes well during boot until LILO starts and then elects to stop at LI with the blinking cursor.
I'm totally lost as to how I can boot with this drive on so I can add another OS to it. Would someone kindly point me to my obvious error. Since it's a SCSI drive, it has to be on at boot up in order to been seen and thus used.
Don't want to point out the obvious here but have you double checked the SCSI id's and also how old is the power supply, it may not be able to handle the extra load. Ken
Ken Schneider wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: David Johanson
To: SuSE Support Group Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:26:56 -0400 Subject: [SLE] Confusing Hardware Problem I've just added a third removable SCSI drive to my mail box (this one running SuSE 7.1). Prior to adding this drive I had one drive running win 98se (which I've discussed prior) and the other SuSE 7.1 The box dual boots with LILO running as the boot manager. With just the two drives turned on, LILO runs as expected and I can boot into either OS. With the new drive turned on (I just did a reformat on it and there is no OS installed, just a low level DOS fdisk format) all goes well during boot until LILO starts and then elects to stop at LI with the blinking cursor.
I'm totally lost as to how I can boot with this drive on so I can add another OS to it. Would someone kindly point me to my obvious error. Since it's a SCSI drive, it has to be on at boot up in order to been seen and thus used.
Don't want to point out the obvious here but have you double checked the SCSI id's and also how old is the power supply, it may not be able to handle the extra load.
Ken
New 300W power supply, but as I noted in another reply, the problems lies in the SCSI IDs which I failed to notice. Thanks for your accurate appraisal. ;-) dave -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.1 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe
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