Fellow SuSEans, I've recently installed 8.0, and consider it more "substantial" than 7.3 (I refuse to use the term "robust", it sounds nauseatingly like I've been reviewing ads for Windows 2000) which it is, of course. While I'd made important hardware changes here prior to installing 8.0, moving among other things from a Matrox Millenium G450 to a G550, I've noticed disconcerting ways in which the default fonts are being rendered in 8.0. There is, for example, a certain inequality of boldness to the letters, some appearing noticeably darker than others. I do not recall a similar disparity with 7.3, which brings me to this question: Are the default fonts the same in both versions or are they not? If they differ, how might I know how they are so without having to go through an installation of 7.3 on a second machine? John Lowell
On Monday 26 August 2002 21:34, John wrote:
There is, for example, a certain inequality of boldness to the letters, some appearing noticeably darker than others.
I have noticed the uneven font boldness on my KDM login screen. So far that is the only place I have seen it, but I've only had 8.0 installed for a few days. *************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional KDE 3.0.0 KMail 1.4 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************************
Sorry can't remember what the fonts were before, but certainly the default desktop fonts families are quite different with 8.0! :-) ISTR, anti-aliasing came in as the default with 7.3 - but was it the default? It certainly took me quite a while to get used to the default(?) of anti-aliasing with 8.0. You might try turning it off to see if that's the effect you are indeed seeing? As a (rather long) aside: I know I also had problems with uneaven brightness of letters ACROSS my *LCD* screen driven by a GF2/MX200. It looked absolutely awful at first! I am actually dual booting the machine with WinME and the default scan rates inherited(?) from Windows were seemingly different to those SuSE required? The solution was to spend quite a *long* time fiddling with Sax2 (or specifially the command xfine2!) to optimise settings. I did reach some kind of sweet-spot which seemed to satisfy everything and it now looks just FINE. More luck than judgement? :-) I don't *seem* to remember having this problem with 7.2 which seemed closer to the optimum setting from outset... Dunno if this applies to CRTs though - if that's what you have? Chris On Tuesday 27 August 2002 01:34, John Lowell wrote:
Fellow SuSEans,
I've recently installed 8.0, and consider it more "substantial" than 7.3 (I refuse to use the term "robust", it sounds nauseatingly like I've been reviewing ads for Windows 2000) which it is, of course. While I'd made important hardware changes here prior to installing 8.0, moving among other things from a Matrox Millenium G450 to a G550, I've noticed disconcerting ways in which the default fonts are being rendered in 8.0. There is, for example, a certain inequality of boldness to the letters, some appearing noticeably darker than others. I do not recall a similar disparity with 7.3, which brings me to this question: Are the default fonts the same in both versions or are they not? If they differ, how might I know how they are so without having to go through an installation of 7.3 on a second machine?
John Lowell
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:03, Chris Roberts wrote:
Sorry can't remember what the fonts were before, but certainly the default desktop fonts families are quite different with 8.0! :-) ISTR, anti-aliasing came in as the default with 7.3 - but was it the default? It certainly took me quite a while to get used to the default(?) of anti-aliasing with 8.0. You might try turning it off to see if that's the effect you are indeed seeing?
As a (rather long) aside: I know I also had problems with uneaven brightness of letters ACROSS my *LCD* screen driven by a GF2/MX200. It looked absolutely awful at first! I am actually dual booting the machine with WinME and the default scan rates inherited(?) from Windows were seemingly different to those SuSE required? The solution was to spend quite a *long* time fiddling with Sax2 (or specifially the command xfine2!) to optimise settings. I did reach some kind of sweet-spot which seemed to satisfy everything and it now looks just FINE. More luck than judgement? :-) I don't *seem* to remember having this problem with 7.2 which seemed closer to the optimum setting from outset... Dunno if this applies to CRTs though - if that's what you have?
Chris
Hi Chris, In my reading to fix a problem with getting TrueType fonts working corectly I came across details regarding LCD with AA. Basically you have to add match edit rgba = bgr; to the ~/.xftconfig file. If this file does't exist just create it and add the above line to it. Ref:- XFree86 Font De-uglification HOWTO Section 4.1.3.3 Item 8 but recommend reading all the items in the above section as it covers many fixes that can be done to make the better on the eyes. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks! It's all grist for the mill - will have a twiddle. Some useful stuff to have around e.g. on mozilla - which I've never quite got working with TT fonts. Seems like these are the most "challenging" issues in SuSE. I'm generally happy with the way it *looks* - when at least the system works :-) C. P.S. Also thanks to Dylan who solved my problem with USB Camera mounting. Would (should!) have got that one if I'd been more on the ball...
Hi Chris,
In my reading to fix a problem with getting TrueType fonts working corectly I came across details regarding LCD with AA.
Basically you have to add match edit rgba = bgr; to the ~/.xftconfig file. If this file does't exist just create it and add the above line to it.
Ref:- XFree86 Font De-uglification HOWTO Section 4.1.3.3 Item 8 but recommend reading all the items in the above section as it covers many fixes that can be done to make the better on the eyes.
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html
Regards,
Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
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