Hiya gang, I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. I hate this as it makes the list way too large and harder to read. In SuSE 9.3 and earlier, this never happened, only on this 10.3 (I presume). How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it. John -- "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 17 February 09, JB2 wrote:
Hiya gang,
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. I hate this as it makes the list way too large and harder to read. In SuSE 9.3 and earlier, this never happened, only on this 10.3 (I presume).
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
Sorry...forgot to add a snapshot of what it looks like. Here it is. -- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 09:49:31 am JB2 wrote:
Hiya gang,
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. I hate this as it makes the list way too large and harder to read. In SuSE 9.3 and earlier, this never happened, only on this 10.3 (I presume).
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
John
That seems to be in all KDE programs having Open Recent option. I checked KWrite and Kate and it is the same. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18 February 09, Rajko M. wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 09:49:31 am JB2 wrote:
Hiya gang,
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. I hate this as it makes the list way too large and harder to read. In SuSE 9.3 and earlier, this never happened, only on this 10.3 (I presume).
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
John
That seems to be in all KDE programs having Open Recent option. I checked KWrite and Kate and it is the same.
<sigh>...I just checked Kate also and you're correct, it does it there too. This is sad. It used to be that my Linux system allowed me to be in charge, change things as *I* wanted them. Now it seems it's more and more becoming the behemoth that Microshaft is and *telling* its users what they need and giving less and less ability to set it up as the *user* wants it. Sad days indeed. :( -- There are two types of motorcycles...Harleys and not Harleys. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday February 18 2009, JB2 wrote:
On 18 February 09, Rajko M. wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 09:49:31 am JB2 wrote:
Hiya gang,
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. ...
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
John
That seems to be in all KDE programs having Open Recent option. I checked KWrite and Kate and it is the same.
<sigh>...I just checked Kate also and you're correct, it does it there too.
This is sad. It used to be that my Linux system allowed me to be in charge, change things as *I* wanted them. ...
They don't come much more control freakish than I, so I won't (wouldn't) suggest that such control wouldn't be useful. I think, though, that the reason for it is that many files with a given base name may occur, and presenting the full path name helps disambiguate in this situation. So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
-- There are two types of motorcycles...Harleys and not Harleys.
Randall "born in Harleytown" Schulz -- Maybe that huge scar on my leg is 'cause I was riding a Honda... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:03:20 Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday February 18 2009, JB2 wrote:
On 18 February 09, Rajko M. wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 09:49:31 am JB2 wrote:
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. ...
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
John
That seems to be in all KDE programs having Open Recent option. I checked KWrite and Kate and it is the same.
<sigh>...I just checked Kate also and you're correct, it does it there too.
This is sad. It used to be that my Linux system allowed me to be in charge, change things as *I* wanted them. ...
I think the OP confuses the illusion that an army of open source coders exists to read his mind and implement everything he desires with happiness. The freedom to use the source, change it as I wants and participate in improving it gives me more material feelings of warmth and being in control.
They don't come much more control freakish than I, so I won't (wouldn't) suggest that such control wouldn't be useful.
I think, though, that the reason for it is that many files with a given base name may occur, and presenting the full path name helps disambiguate in this situation.
You're right.
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Should be a doddle for anyone with C++ 101 and an ounce of DIY: http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdelibs/kdeui/actions/krecentfilesaction.cpp#2... The simplest approach is to iterate the list of RecentFiles once before the current for loop, first counting each unique nameValue, then in the current loop only add the "[" + value + "]" if the count is greater than one. You'd want something like QHash<QString, uint> (http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/qhash.html) to store the counts. Any takers? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 February 2009 02:29:20 am Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:03:20 Randall R Schulz wrote: ...
I think, though, that the reason for it is that many files with a given base name may occur, and presenting the full path name helps disambiguate in this situation.
You're right.
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Should be a doddle for anyone with C++ 101 and an ounce of DIY:
I need a motive to learn C++ 101 (getting bruises in a course of action) and changing:
http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdelibs/kdeui/actions/krecentfilesaction.cpp# 214
could be a good one.
The simplest approach is to iterate the list of RecentFiles once before the current for loop, first counting each unique nameValue, then in the current loop only add the "[" + value + "]" if the count is greater than one.
You'd want something like QHash<QString, uint> (http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/qhash.html) to store the counts.
Any takers?
Will
As mentioned, I need a motive, so why not. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to get something that I can compile in my home directory, which apparently includes svn 101. Any reason that svn has 3.5 and lxr.kde.org doesn't? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday February 19 2009, Rajko M. wrote:
...
I need a motive to learn C++ 101j ...
Danger, Will Robinson! -or- There be dragons. I was doing C++ before most, but it's been a long time. It's a gnarly language, but I feel sort of fond of it, still. Nowadays I'm more drawn to Clojure and Scala, both of which I'm learning in the interstices of free time available to me.
...
-- Regards, Rajko
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On Thursday 19 February 2009 18:21:14 Rajko M. wrote:
As mentioned, I need a motive, so why not.
Now, I'm trying to figure out how to get something that I can compile in my home directory, which apparently includes svn 101.
Have you seen http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Stable_Version ? zypper si -d kdelibs3 is a good cheat to get all the build dependencies.
Any reason that svn has 3.5 and lxr.kde.org doesn't?
It's at http://lxr.kde.org/ident?v=3.5-branch Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 February 09, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:03:20 Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday February 18 2009, JB2 wrote:
On 18 February 09, Rajko M. wrote:
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 09:49:31 am JB2 wrote:
I'm finally getting around to asking this question. In the picture, when I mouse on 'open recent' a list pops up next to it. Every item in the list also has the location of that item after it in brackets '[ ]'. ...
How do I get rid of the garbage in the brackets? There's nothing in the 'settings' that does anything about it.
John
That seems to be in all KDE programs having Open Recent option. I checked KWrite and Kate and it is the same.
<sigh>...I just checked Kate also and you're correct, it does it there too.
This is sad. It used to be that my Linux system allowed me to be in charge, change things as *I* wanted them. ...
I think the OP confuses the illusion that an army of open source coders exists to read his mind and implement everything he desires with happiness. The freedom to use the source, change it as I wants and participate in improving it gives me more material feelings of warmth and being in control.
Since you don't care to try to understand the phrase 'Don't fix what ain't broke' and decided that since I've asked and looked in all the places I could that *normally* *would* allow me to 'fix' something to work as *I* like it to, I get to say that you *DO NOT* 'think'. Quit doing it, it makes you look bad and you don't seem to be very good at it.
They don't come much more control freakish than I, so I won't (wouldn't) suggest that such control wouldn't be useful.
I think, though, that the reason for it is that many files with a given base name may occur, and presenting the full path name helps disambiguate in this situation.
You're right.
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Should be a doddle for anyone with C++ 101 and an ounce of DIY:
Guess what, oh know-it-all? Not everyone can program! Weird huh? Are you an ass from birth or do you work hard to be one? If anything should and would have been a "doddle", it would have been some simple way of turning that crap *OFF*. Hey, oh babbling whiner...can you DIY a complete turnkey motor for your vehicle in your garage...without a book? Can you work on a Harley motor without a book? I "DIY" lots of things that you can't, and vice-versa, so pull your head out. <snip rest of Will's penchant for climbing on tall white horses and showing how much of an pompous ass he can be> -- The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 February 2009 20:15:46 JB2 wrote:
On 19 February 09, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:03:20 Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday February 18 2009, JB2 wrote:
On 18 February 09, Rajko M. wrote: This is sad. It used to be that my Linux system allowed me to be in charge, change things as *I* wanted them. ...
I think the OP confuses the illusion that an army of open source coders exists to read his mind and implement everything he desires with happiness. The freedom to use the source, change it as I wants and participate in improving it gives me more material feelings of warmth and being in control.
Since you don't care to try to understand the phrase 'Don't fix what ain't broke' and decided that since I've asked and looked in all the places I could that *normally* *would* allow me to 'fix' something to work as *I* like it to, I get to say that you *DO NOT* 'think'. Quit doing it, it makes you look bad and you don't seem to be very good at it.
I've no problem with your frustration that it couldn't be changed to avoid the full paths. I do think your feeling 'sad' that because the recent files submenu was changed to prevent web designers facing index.html index.html index.html ... before they've had their first latte, is evidence that we're becoming an authoritarian behemoth is unjustified.
Should be a doddle for anyone with C++ 101 and an ounce of DIY:
Guess what, oh know-it-all? Not everyone can program! Weird huh? Are you an ass from birth or do you work hard to be one? If anything should and would have been a "doddle", it would have been some simple way of turning that crap *OFF*.
Really, it's not crap, it's a feature. And please understand that I wasn't telling you personally telling you to go fix it, or denigrating everyone who lacks those things. This is a community mailing list, not a two-hander. You've given your feedback, Randall's suggested a simple way to make both you and the web designer happy, I've pointed out how it can be done and given my high horse a trot, now let's see if someone steps up.
Hey, oh babbling whiner...can you DIY a complete turnkey motor for your vehicle in your garage...without a book? Can you work on a Harley motor without a book? I "DIY" lots of things that you can't, and vice-versa, so pull your head out.
No, but I used to earn my keep as a bicycle mechanic. My triceps would probably rupture if my torque wrench went over 50Nm though ;). Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Will Stephenson wrote:
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Even better would be something like a tooltip that pops up with the path when you hover over the name. That would solve the OP's problem _and_ disambiguate the names. John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday February 19 2009, John E. Perry wrote:
Will Stephenson wrote:
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Even better would be something like a tooltip that pops up with the path when you hover over the name. That would solve the OP's problem _and_ disambiguate the names.
Ugh. Tooltips are getting out of control lately. Take the tooltips that appeared in a recent minor revision KMail when you hover over a mailbox in the mailbox list. Very obtrusive. And if you look at the Java IDE IDEA (sometimes called IntelliJ after its original vendor), you'll see the extreme of tooltips. They drive me nuts.
John Perry
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday February 19 2009, John E. Perry wrote:
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list. Even better would be something like a tooltip that pops up with the
Will Stephenson wrote: path when you hover over the name. That would solve the OP's problem _and_ disambiguate the names.
Ugh. Tooltips are getting out of control lately. Take the tooltips that appeared in a recent minor revision KMail when you hover over a mailbox in the mailbox list. Very obtrusive. And if you look at the Java IDE IDEA (sometimes called IntelliJ after its original vendor), you'll see the extreme of tooltips. They drive me nuts.
Sometimes tooltips have irritated me, too, especially those that come up with no delay, and those that give no real information. But when used well in appropriate settings, they are a huge advance over either the kind of obtrusive excess of information the OP complained about (which Will's scheme wouldn't really help, in my opinion), or the total absence of helpful information that the path information was supposed to fix. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 February 2009 00:31:52 John E. Perry wrote:
Will Stephenson wrote:
So at a minimum, they could be more selective and show the full names only when that information actually does disambiguate the overall list.
Even better would be something like a tooltip that pops up with the path when you hover over the name. That would solve the OP's problem _and_ disambiguate the names.
That's inventive, but who expects a tooltip in a menu? I had a quick look and couldn't find tooltips on any menu items in kmail. Perhaps the algorithm could be refined to show the only shortest unique path fragment for duplicate recent filenames? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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