Charset problem: apostrophes become questionmarks
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution? Paul
Do you have an example of such a website? Anders On Wednesday 11 July 2001 01:36, Paul Abrahams wrote:
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution?
Paul
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:43:58AM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
Do you have an example of such a website?
Anders
there's lots. Here's one I came across a few minutes ago. Note in the html metatags they admit using Microsoft prodcuts. http://www.fordham.edu/law/faculty/patterson/compinfo/documents/Case3Jurisdi... it's a nonstandard Microsoft 'smart quotes' thing.
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 01:36, Paul Abrahams wrote:
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution?
Paul
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hansen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:43:58AM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
Do you have an example of such a website?
Anders
there's lots. Here's one I came across a few minutes ago. Note in the html metatags they admit using Microsoft prodcuts.
http://www.fordham.edu/law/faculty/patterson/compinfo/documents/Case3Jurisdi...
it's a nonstandard Microsoft 'smart quotes' thing.
Displays fine in my Mozilla 0.9.2. The source says it is charset Windows-1272, and View>Character Coding in Mozilla also says Western (Windows-1272). But the above site had no improper ? that I could see. ;) -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris "All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
Joe & Sesil Morris wrote:
hansen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:43:58AM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
Do you have an example of such a website?
Anders
there's lots. Here's one I came across a few minutes ago. Note in the html metatags they admit using Microsoft prodcuts.
http://www.fordham.edu/law/faculty/patterson/compinfo/documents/Case3Jurisdi...
it's a nonstandard Microsoft 'smart quotes' thing.
Displays fine in my Mozilla 0.9.2. The source says it is charset Windows-1272, and View>Character Coding in Mozilla also says Western (Windows-1272). But the above site had no improper ? that I could see. ;)
Veddy interesting! I can't find a "Windows 1272" code option either in Netscape 4.77 or in the KDE Control Center. Perhaps Mozilla's solved the problem in a way that other Linux programs could emulate. Paul
hansen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:43:58AM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
Do you have an example of such a website?
Anders
there's lots. Here's one I came across a few minutes ago. Note in the html metatags they admit using Microsoft prodcuts.
http://www.fordham.edu/law/faculty/patterson/compinfo/documents/Case3Jurisdi...
it's a nonstandard Microsoft 'smart quotes' thing.
I filed a bug report on this at the KDE project and learned, as a result, that it's possible to get Konqueror to show the quotes on that specific page by using the iso8859-15 (not -1) encoding. However, that didn't seem to work for netscape. In Konqueror, the place to specify the encoding isn't obvious; it's under View/Encoding. Paul
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Paul Abrahams wrote:
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution?
Windows users tend to confuse accents and apostrophes. For the gory details see Markus Kuhn's very interesting web page about "ASCII and Unicode Quotation Marks": http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany Statistics are human beings with the tears wiped off.
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 02:38 am, you wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Paul Abrahams wrote:
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution?
Windows users tend to confuse accents and apostrophes. For the gory details see Markus Kuhn's very interesting web page about "ASCII and Unicode Quotation Marks":
They may also have SmartQuotes turned on. This is invisible to most, and bollocks up a great many transformations. We learned that at Ask Jeeves when I worked there. -- Bob Rea Fear of Hell is pernicious; So is fear of Heaven. rear@sirius.com http://www.sirius.com/~rear
Lenz Grimmer wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Paul Abrahams wrote:
I've had a problem for a long time with apostrophes showing up as question marks in web pages, both in Konqueror and Netscape. I expect it's a character-set problem. I've always specified my character set as iso-8859-1. I'm running KDE 2.2beta and SuSE 7.1, but I've seen this for as long as I can remember. Any solution?
Windows users tend to confuse accents and apostrophes. For the gory details see Markus Kuhn's very interesting web page about "ASCII and Unicode Quotation Marks":
It looks as though the TT fonts viewed through the Linux lens (not you, Lenz) turn apostrophes, quotemarks, and grave accents all into question marks. I seem to remember now that Word uses some weird high-bit encoding for quotemarks (single or double) so that it can handle them in pairs, and it foolishly fails to translate them sensibly when it produces an ASCII file. Paul
Hello everybody... First of all, i want to THANKS everybody for answering my previos questions. this is really the right place to solve problems...... Second, i ONLY use SuSE, since version 5.2, an upgrading everytime is necessary, and i won't ever change it !!!!!. I recently get a new SuSE 7.2 (Spanish version, i'm from Bolivia) and made a fresh install, as usual office installation was my choice. My BIG problem, and i don't know why is my keyboard layout, it doesn't print deadkeys, i mean i'm not able to print tilde, accents, but only on kde2, because when i move to gnome it works just fine, so where is the problem???? I'm able to print ññññññññññ, but nothing else, tildes don't work at all, i mean: á â ã ä, in fact the keyboard at kde it's not recognizing that i want to have deadkeys. Because when i want to print "â" it prints "^a", got it!! This happens when i'm using kde, with all the applications i've installed, gnome or kde aplications. When i use gnome i work fine with all (gnome and kde) applications. my XF86Config has the usual Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc104" XkbLayout "es" EndSection I know console it's not the same as X, but i think the problem is with KDE, because GNOME works well. In KDE Control Panel --- Country and Language --- i have Country : Bolivia Language : Spanish CharMap: iso8859-15 In KDE Control Panel --- Keyboard Setting --- i have Keyboard Type :Generic 105-key (Intl) PC Primary Desing: Spanish I haven't touched the sax configuration, this just worked fine with previous versions of SuSE 7.0, 7.1 Best Regards. Oxiel Note: I must note that this email was written in StarOffice and then pasted to kmail. Surprinsingly StarOffice and Netscape work fine with tildes, doesn't matter if i use kde or gnome
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