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Hi all... I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it? BTW, sorry about sending it to this list, but this is the only list I'm on that is loaded with computer experts. Surely someone here knows more about it. THANKS JIM ######################## Subject: NASA and the Bible. I know this is long and will take up some of your time but let us remember we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD and GOD is for real. For all the scientists out there and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible...here's something that shows God awesome creation and shows that He is still in control. Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called "myth" in the Bible is true? Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore Maryland and a consultant in the space program, relates the following development. "I think one of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Greenbelt, Maryland. They were checking the position of the sun, moon, and planets out in space where they would be 100 years and 1000 years from now. We have to know this so we won't send a satellite, up and have it bump into something later on in its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite, and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down. They ran the computer measurement back and forth over the centuries and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant that there was something wrong either with the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out and they said, "What's wrong?" Well, they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and tore their hair. There was no answer. Finally, a Christian man on the team said, "You know, one time I was in Sunday School and they talked about the sun standing still. "While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, "Show us." He got a Bible and went back to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one with "common sense." There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, "Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee." Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy and if darkness fell they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That's right-"The sun stood still and the moon stayed-and hasted not to go down about a whole day!" (Joshua 10:12-13) The astronauts and scientists said, "There is the missing day!" They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes-not a whole day. They read the Bible and there it was "about (approximately) a day" These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings that told of the following story: Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said "Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?" Hezekiah said "It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees." Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!" Isn't it amazing? References: Joshua 10:8 and 12,13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11. Forward this to as many people who you believe would think this is equally as cool. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ BayerWulf Linux System # 129656 The Recycled Beowulf Project Looking for throw-away or obsolete computers and parts to recycle into a Linux super computer
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970325g.html (urban legend) James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all...
I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it?
BTW, sorry about sending it to this list, but this is the only list I'm on that is loaded with computer experts. Surely someone here knows more about it.
THANKS
JIM
On Sunday 08 December 2002 12:04 pm, James Hatridge wrote:
I've heard this [urban legend] many times ... ... this is the only list I'm on that is loaded with computer experts. Surely someone here knows more about it.
in the konquerer address bar, type the following gg: snopes bible missing day nasa hit number 1:http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.htm [the "gg:", if still set as the default, is a shorthand for "google search" -- I've included this tidbit to keep this "on topic" for a linux/suse e-mail list :) ]
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:04:04 +0100 James Hatridge <James.Hatridge@epost.de> wrote:
I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it?
Humans don't have a clue about Time. We like to brag about how much control we have over this world, with our "great scientific prowess"; but we still can't answer the question: "What is the difference between NOW and 1 second ago?" We exist in space-time, a 4-dimensional state. (Quite probably more than 4) Humans are always trying to separate space from time, because of our puny brain structure, and our desire to control our immediate space. We see space, which we can grasp and control, then we see time as motion-in-space. The earth is not a spheroid, it looks more like a long stretched out slinky in space-time. However, in our localized little piece of space time, it's convenient for us to think of the earth as a spheroid, just spinning around. It's easier on our brains. We make the mistake in projecting our limited view onto the universe. If you want to understand how "God" sees us, think of it this way: we are "event-sequences" ...... a long string of events, starting from birth, and ending at death. This is where free will comes from, we have the freedom to react to the events as they unfold in our "lives". It's quite possible that the "past" still exists, we just can't access it anymore, because of a thing we call the "Time barrier". You need to comprehend the 12 dimensional universe to understand it, it's second-grade stuff for the "gods", but unfathomable for us humans. We are awfully lucky to be existing in a portion of the cosmic ocean which is relatively calm, peaceful, and predictable. However, there are oral legends from ancient tribes, which claim that every 10,000 years or so, we pass thru a an area of "cosmic-ocean-turbulence" in which all our "physical laws" get turned upside down by huge wave disturbances. Like a "cosmic-hurricane". Yeah, I know, I watch too much Star Trek. :-) It blows my mind to meditate on how there are gazillion of neutrino's per second just just blowing thru me and the earth, like the "cosmic-breeze", and that our science can't even display or see them. The real question is: "What other invisible energy is here, which we can't see?" Is this energy concious? Is it what we call "God" ? I need a trip to Amsterdam. :-) -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
zentara wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:04:04 +0100 James Hatridge <James.Hatridge@epost.de> wrote:
I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it?
Humans don't have a clue about Time. We like to brag about how much control we have over this world, with our "great scientific prowess"; but we still can't answer the question: "What is the difference between NOW and 1 second ago?"
We exist in space-time, a 4-dimensional state. (Quite probably more than 4) Humans are always trying to separate space from time, because of our puny brain structure, and our desire to control our immediate space. We see space, which we can grasp and control, then we see time as motion-in-space.
The earth is not a spheroid, it looks more like a long stretched out slinky in space-time. However, in our localized little piece of space time, it's convenient for us to think of the earth as a spheroid, just spinning around. It's easier on our brains. We make the mistake in projecting our limited view onto the universe.
If you want to understand how "God" sees us, think of it this way: we are "event-sequences" ...... a long string of events, starting from birth, and ending at death. This is where free will comes from, we have the freedom to react to the events as they unfold in our "lives".
It's quite possible that the "past" still exists, we just can't access it anymore, because of a thing we call the "Time barrier". You need to comprehend the 12 dimensional universe to understand it, it's second-grade stuff for the "gods", but unfathomable for us humans.
We are awfully lucky to be existing in a portion of the cosmic ocean which is relatively calm, peaceful, and predictable. However, there are oral legends from ancient tribes, which claim that every 10,000 years or so, we pass thru a an area of "cosmic-ocean-turbulence" in which all our "physical laws" get turned upside down by huge wave disturbances. Like a "cosmic-hurricane".
Yeah, I know, I watch too much Star Trek. :-) It blows my mind to meditate on how there are gazillion of neutrino's per second just just blowing thru me and the earth, like the "cosmic-breeze", and that our science can't even display or see them.
The real question is: "What other invisible energy is here, which we can't see?" Is this energy concious? Is it what we call "God" ?
I need a trip to Amsterdam. :-)
Actually, time is an illusion. The present , past and future are coincident and the the neutrinos are at their source and destination simultaneously, I've been to Amsterdam and I never left and will go again.
Alle 00:35, martedì 10 dicembre 2002, info ha scritto:
zentara wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:04:04 +0100
James Hatridge <James.Hatridge@epost.de> wrote:
I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it?
Humans don't have a clue about Time. We like to brag about how much control we have over this world, with our "great scientific prowess"; but we still can't answer the question: "What is the difference between NOW and 1 second ago?"
That's easy. A second later there is much more enthropy!:-) You might find a more complex answer to that question in Hawking's books. Praise
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