[opensuse] Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation? Hi, I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year) I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic? (if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error) My computer specs: - Dell XPS 420 desktop - Intel Core2Extreme 4-core CPU - 8GB DDR2 RAM - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB w/64MB RAM HDD - nVidia GeForce GTS 450 PCIexpress 1GB GDDR5 - Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 1 Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer? Thanks! Jesse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Jesse Palser wrote:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic?
Can you be more specific about "it does not reboot"? E.g. do you see the grub boot manager? If it's a graphics issue, you could try adding "nomodeset" to the command line when booting.
(if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error)
That sounds like a hardware issue. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-12.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/4/2012 5:31 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic? Can you be more specific about "it does not reboot"? E.g. do you see the grub boot manager? If it's a graphics issue, you could try adding "nomodeset" to the command line when booting.
(if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error) That sounds like a hardware issue.
Hi, It does not reboot just after completing the installation. I see the "rebooting" message and it tries to reboot, but the screen changes to a distorted graphic and nothing happens. How do I add "nomodset" when installing the OS? Its not a hardware issue. HDD is brand new. And Windows(R) 7 64Bit has been running happily on same hardware for over 1 year. Thanks! Jesse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Jesse Palser wrote:
On 2/4/2012 5:31 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic? Can you be more specific about "it does not reboot"? E.g. do you see the grub boot manager? If it's a graphics issue, you could try adding "nomodeset" to the command line when booting.
(if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error) That sounds like a hardware issue.
Hi,
It does not reboot just after completing the installation. I see the "rebooting" message and it tries to reboot, but the screen changes to a distorted graphic and nothing happens.
Okay.
How do I add "nomodset" when installing the OS?
You could do that when configuring grub, the boot loader. You can also add it temporarily when the machine is booting. It doesn't sound like that is the real issue though. You could try adding it when you're installing - there should be a place on the first window (bootloader).
Its not a hardware issue. HDD is brand new. And Windows(R) 7 64Bit has been running happily on same hardware for over 1 year.
Yeah, I did notice that - then it sounds like the bootloader didn't get properly installed. I assume you're doing everything with the default or yast-recommended settings? /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-10.7°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 05:31 AM Per Jessen wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic?
Can you be more specific about "it does not reboot"? E.g. do you see the grub boot manager? If it's a graphics issue, you could try adding "nomodeset" to the command line when booting.
(if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found
error)
That sounds like a hardware issue.
Jesse, First, while the guys here on this mailing list are uber qualified to help you, it might actually be a faster ticket to use the user forums. They deal with installation issues multiple times every day seeing the same symptoms repeatedly and have quick procedures for diagnosis and resolution. That said . . . the operating system not found error message comes from the Windows MBR. There are several conclusions you can take from this: First, grub was obviously not installed to the MBR. Second, the "active" (aka "bootable") flag has been changed from the Windows primary partition to another primary partition; if you installed openSUSE to a primary it will be that partition that now has the flag set, if you installed openSUSE to a logical partition it will be the extended primary (usually the 4th primary) inside of which the logicals reside. There are various ways to return the machine to booting Windows and/or to even have Windows 7 control the booting of openSUSE. Do you know which partition openSUSE was installed to? And do you by chance have a Live-CD or Live-DVD of any flavor? Next, are you certain that the installation was complete. There is a step before the last hardware configuration where the installation restarts itself. Depending on the hardware, that can be an in-place restart or it may reboot the machine. Sometimes when the latter is done there is an issue because of some hardware tweak still needed, and the installation has not actually completed. So can you verify whether the installation went to full completion? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 04/02/2012 10:20, Jesse Palser a écrit :
So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it.
I see only one disk in your specs, you removed completely the old one? is it still seen by the bios (at startup)?
Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install
the install include one reboot before finishing, is this that reboot that fail or the next one?
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
usually give little problem - the nomodeset option is sometime needed (and adding it as default crashes other systems :-() jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2/4/2012 5:39 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 04/02/2012 10:20, Jesse Palser a écrit :
So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it.
I see only one disk in your specs, you removed completely the old one?
is it still seen by the bios (at startup)?
Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install
the install include one reboot before finishing, is this that reboot that fail or the next one?
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
usually give little problem - the nomodeset option is sometime needed (and adding it as default crashes other systems :-()
jdd
Hi, Old HDD was completely removed from the computer, and a brand new HDD was installed into computer. (computer just has one new HDD and no others) The reboot just after installing fails. How do I add "nomodset" to the install procedure? Thanks! Jesse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El sáb, 04-02-2012 a las 05:48 -0500, Jesse Palser escribió:
On 2/4/2012 5:39 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 04/02/2012 10:20, Jesse Palser a écrit :
So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it.
I see only one disk in your specs, you removed completely the old one?
is it still seen by the bios (at startup)?
Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install
the install include one reboot before finishing, is this that reboot that fail or the next one?
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
usually give little problem - the nomodeset option is sometime needed (and adding it as default crashes other systems :-()
jdd
Hi,
Old HDD was completely removed from the computer, and a brand new HDD was installed into computer. (computer just has one new HDD and no others)
The reboot just after installing fails.
How do I add "nomodset" to the install procedure?
Thanks!
Jesse
Presuming you did HDD format before installing the operating system, right? To add "nomodeset". When the splash screen shows you should write down nomodeset on screen and it usually writes on the line, or when the screen appears just move arrow keys down and write it on the line below floppy option. I would not bet for this early option because Nouveau-Mesa drivers usually recognize (more or less) your Nvidia Adapter Card. The problems come after (if any) you run your system with Desktop Effects or High demanding graphisc processing. Ultimately, If you have a LiveCD and you can run it with no graphic issues. You will have a high probability no issues when installing the operatin system. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 04 Feb 2012 04:20:13 Jesse Palser wrote:
but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic?
Sounds like some some kind of video failure (not due to hardware but some driver issue) As suggest try "nomodeset". When you boot from the DVD the first installation menu you are presented with, before you start the install, has a small command line field, between the bottom of the menu choices and the "Fn" options at the bottome, just type "nomodeset" in that field (no quotes) and then select install.
(if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error)
This is a BIOS error when it cant find anything to boot from, Sounds like Grub (the bootloader) is not or did not get properly installed on the disk during setup, which is understandable because it sounds like the setup didnt complete far enough. Also just to be sure, I seem to recall some Dell BIOS' have disk boot sector protection, to try and avoid virus writing to the boot sector. Take a poke in your BIOS and check your model doesn't have this, and if it does disable the protection. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El sáb, 04-02-2012 a las 04:20 -0500, Jesse Palser escribió:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic? (if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error)
My computer specs: - Dell XPS 420 desktop - Intel Core2Extreme 4-core CPU - 8GB DDR2 RAM - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB w/64MB RAM HDD - nVidia GeForce GTS 450 PCIexpress 1GB GDDR5 - Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 1
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
Thanks!
Jesse
Try to boot manually. Maybe you would need to power off and power on manually to continue with the installation process. Once you finish the installation and updates process most probable your issues will go or will need to switch to Nvidia driver (some glitches woriking with windows and workspaces). In case you have some issues trying to install Nvidia repo remember to use http instead ftp repo source. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/04/2012 01:20 AM, Jesse Palser wrote:
Reboot Fails After 12.1 64Bit Installation?
Hi,
I've been waiting a long time for a great Linux distribution. (been running Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 HP 64Bit for over a year)
I tried openSUSE 12.1 64Bit in VirtualBox and it looks and ran fantastically. So I burned the DVD, put a new HDD into computer and installed it. Installation appears to be successful, but when it tries to reboot after install it does not reboot and the screen shown is garbled graphic? (if I reset the computer, I get an operating system is not found error)
Hi Jessie, I've seen this myself with 12.1. I have a feeling it's something to do with the nVidia graphics. Once I see the garbled screen I wait a fairly long time (5-minutes?) to make sure the install has finished doing whatever it's doing. I then hit the power button momentarily in the hope a graceful shutdown will be started. It usually doesn't, so I wait another long time before holding the power button down to force the power off. The box should then boot up and proceed with the install where it left off. I've had to do this more than once on a couple of installs. IMHO this is a fatal flaw in 12.1 for new users to openSuSE. I can't honestly recommend the system to anyone who will be doing their own install. I'm not complaining, it's still a great system once you get past the installation and switch over to the nVidia tarball driver. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:38:10 -0800 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> wrote:
Hi Jessie,
I've seen this myself with 12.1. I have a feeling it's something to do with the nVidia graphics.
Once I see the garbled screen I wait a fairly long time (5-minutes?) to make sure the install has finished doing whatever it's doing. I then hit the power button momentarily in the hope a graceful shutdown will be started. It usually doesn't, so I wait another long time before holding the power button down to force the power off.
The box should then boot up and proceed with the install where it left off. I've had to do this more than once on a couple of installs.
IMHO this is a fatal flaw in 12.1 for new users to openSuSE. I can't honestly recommend the system to anyone who will be doing their own install. I'm not complaining, it's still a great system once you get past the installation and switch over to the nVidia tarball driver.
Regards, Lew
Just out of curiosity, why tarball and not the nVidia rpm repository? Thx! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/04/2012 10:41 AM, Carl Hartung wrote:
IMHO this is a fatal flaw in 12.1 for new users to openSuSE. I
can't honestly recommend the system to anyone who will be doing their own install. I'm not complaining, it's still a great system once you get past the installation and switch over to the nVidia tarball driver.
Regards, Lew Just out of curiosity, why tarball and not the nVidia rpm repository?
Hi Carl, I've seen the nVidia repository break graphics after a zypper dup. It happened to me three days ago. The blob from nVivia (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run) fixed the problem, after uninstalling the repo RPM's and the neuvau stuff. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:27:36 -0800 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> wrote:
On 02/04/2012 10:41 AM, Carl Hartung wrote:
IMHO this is a fatal flaw in 12.1 for new users to openSuSE. I
can't honestly recommend the system to anyone who will be doing their own install. I'm not complaining, it's still a great system once you get past the installation and switch over to the nVidia tarball driver.
Regards, Lew Just out of curiosity, why tarball and not the nVidia rpm repository?
Hi Carl,
I've seen the nVidia repository break graphics after a zypper dup. It happened to me three days ago. The blob from nVivia (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run) fixed the problem, after uninstalling the repo RPM's and the neuvau stuff.
Regards, Lew
Thanks for humoring my curiosity, Lew. I've had that experience, too. Just, for some reason, I didn't associate their '.run' installer with the word "tarball" :-) They plant a nifty 'uninstall.sh' in the process, in case you ever choose to go back to the rpm, which I have also done. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/04/2012 03:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works. You probably have an old version of ATI video card like my 4 yr old laptop. My reluctant solution after many tries with nomodeset and all teh other nostrums was to install Ubuntu 10.10 which let nomodeset work. That made my wife happy so I'm happy.
Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Richard wrote:
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works. You probably have an old version of ATI video card like my 4 yr old laptop. My reluctant solution after many tries with nomodeset and all teh other nostrums was to install Ubuntu 10.10 which let nomodeset work. That made my wife happy so I'm happy.
Actually, is an nVidia that works fine with earlier versions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:21:28 -0500 James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Richard wrote:
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works. You probably have an old version of ATI video card like my 4 yr old laptop. My reluctant solution after many tries with nomodeset and all teh other nostrums was to install Ubuntu 10.10 which let nomodeset work. That made my wife happy so I'm happy.
Actually, is an nVidia that works fine with earlier versions.
I just have conversation leading to this article: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=168305 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/04/2012 01:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
Interesting! I'm working on the exact same issue on a remote server in Vancouver. The folks in the NOC and I suspect the issue is with a GPT partition of almost 3-TB. It's not in the boot path but it might be borking grub. They're going to work on it this evening. So James: do you have any large partitions? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 02/04/2012 01:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
Interesting! I'm working on the exact same issue on a remote server in Vancouver. The folks in the NOC and I suspect the issue is with a GPT partition of almost 3-TB. It's not in the boot path but it might be borking grub. They're going to work on it this evening.
So James: do you have any large partitions?
/home is on a 160 GB drive, but the rest is on a 60 GB, just as it has been for the past several years. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/04/2012 03:23 PM, James Knott wrote:
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 02/04/2012 01:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
Interesting! I'm working on the exact same issue on a remote server in Vancouver. The folks in the NOC and I suspect the issue is with a GPT partition of almost 3-TB. It's not in the boot path but it might be borking grub. They're going to work on it this evening.
So James: do you have any large partitions?
/home is on a 160 GB drive, but the rest is on a 60 GB, just as it has been for the past several years.
Thibititit! There goes that hypothesis. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 14:41 -0800, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 02/04/2012 01:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
Interesting! I'm working on the exact same issue on a remote server in Vancouver. The folks in the NOC and I suspect the issue is with a GPT partition of almost 3-TB. It's not in the boot path but it might be borking grub. They're going to work on it this evening.
regarding the 3TB, afaicr grub-legacy can not cope with drives or raids larger than 2TB. I was told that the only solution was grub2..... hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hans Witvliet wrote:
On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 14:41 -0800, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 02/04/2012 01:09 PM, James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
Interesting! I'm working on the exact same issue on a remote server in Vancouver. The folks in the NOC and I suspect the issue is with a GPT partition of almost 3-TB. It's not in the boot path but it might be borking grub. They're going to work on it this evening.
regarding the 3TB, afaicr grub-legacy can not cope with drives or raids larger than 2TB. I was told that the only solution was grub2.....
Or lilo. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-9.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 04:09 PM James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
IME this problem has been with the MBR. I have solved it in the past by putting the DOS code in the MBR and using the primary PBR sector instead. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dennis Gallien wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer? No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works. IME this problem has been with the MBR. I have solved it in the past by
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 04:09 PM James Knott wrote: putting the DOS code in the MBR and using the primary PBR sector instead.
At the moment, it's set to boot from the MBR, but I have also tried /boot. Same thing either way. I've filed a bug report on this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736108 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 06:31 PM James Knott wrote:
Dennis Gallien wrote:
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 04:09 PM James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
IME this problem has been with the MBR. I have solved it in the past by putting the DOS code in the MBR and using the primary PBR sector instead.
At the moment, it's set to boot from the MBR, but I have also tried /boot. Same thing either way.
I've filed a bug report on this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736108
When you tried using the /boot PBR sector, what did you do with the code in the MBR? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dennis Gallien wrote:
When you tried using the /boot PBR sector, what did you do with the code in the MBR?
???? All I did was change the configuration in Yast. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:16 PM James Knott wrote:
Dennis Gallien wrote:
When you tried using the /boot PBR sector, what did you do with the code in the MBR?
????
All I did was change the configuration in Yast.
Whatever code that gets installed to the MBR stays there until it is over- written with different code. The BIOS always calls the code in the MBR in the designated boot disk. If there is no code in the MBR the disk cannot boot unless a PBR is called from some other boot loader. The boot sequence works in one of 2 ways: There is grub stage1 code in the MBR which has a pointer to that partition on which to find its grub stage2; it hands off to that partition's stage2 code. Or, there is generic (actually DOS) code in the MBR which reads down the partition table for the active flag, the first it finds it then calls the grub stage1 in that PBR (this is also how Windows works) which will again have a pointer to locate stage2 which is usually on that same partition but can also be on another partition (so e.g., grub stage1 in the extended primary PBR can point to stage2 in one of the logicals within the extended). AFAIK if YaST installs grub to the MBR and later is instructed to install grub to a PBR but the generic code is not installed to the MBR at that step, the original grub in the MBR will remain there. There can be a legitimate reason to have grub in both the MBR and the PBR, e.g., where there are more than one Linux instances on the disk and the MBR boots the primary instance which on its grub menu has a chainloader stanza to boot the second instance from its PBR. To see what is in the MBR, I do: dd if=/dev/sd<x> of=mbr bs=440 count=1 xxd mbr That gives a hex dump of the code. You see if code is installed and from the literal displayed, which boot loader code it is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 06:21:37 PM Dennis Gallien wrote:
On Saturday, February 04, 2012 04:09 PM James Knott wrote:
Jesse Palser wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the problem is and how to successfully install openSUSE 12.1 64Bit onto my computer?
No idea what the problem is, but I also can't boot 12.1 on one computer. I have to leave the DVD in the drive and boot it first then it continues on to booting from the hard drive, which then works.
IME this problem has been with the MBR. I have solved it in the past by putting the DOS code in the MBR and using the primary PBR sector instead.
This is a two parts issue. We should isolate one from another for a good understanding of these issues. 1) Reboot problem: it hangs post copy files for installation (first reboot). So I would say is boot path related problem as grub1, sysVinit and systemd still coexists. And there is something conflicting each other. I will agree it is a bug not able to select the path for booting correctly. Not sure where exactly. happens It only seems present in kernel 3.1.0 and successors. It's not present in kernel 3.2. 2) Video Adapter Card problem: most Nvidia cards are able to work with free- open source drivers like Nouveau-Mesa3D experimental drivers (automatically installed when Nvidia Cards are identified). Despite it is able to work in most Nvidia Video Cards ocassionally could show some glitchy on edges. Some links: 1) http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot- login/467755-opensuse-12-1-install-hangs-kernel-desktop-3-1-0-1-2-1-x86_64- rpm.html 2) http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=402485&tstart=30 3) http://195.135.221.135/opensuse-bugs/2011-09/msg00513.html Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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