Greg Freemyer wrote:

On 7/30/07, Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Mon, July 30, 2007 6:51 am, John Mok wrote:

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Hi,

It is a newbie question. Is OpenSuSE is comparable to SLES9 in terms of Stability, like CentOS to RHEL? or it is a desktop Linux distribution?

Well, you're talking apple and oranges.

openSUSE is to SLES10 as Fedora Core is to RHEL.

CentOS is a clone of RHEL and would (supposedly) have the same stability, just without the support or cost.

In any case, you should find the more (b)leading edge products in openSUSE and/or Fedora Core while you find the stable tested products in SLES/RHEL.

Does that make sense?

While we're on this topic, it used to be that SLES had a few more server functions and a more complete set of Yast modules than the enthusiast's release (9.2 for instance).

Is that still true? ie. Is drbd fully functional in OpenSUSE? etc.

Greg

I'm going to have a similar question when 10.3 comes out. Can someone explain what all the versions do, their advantages, etc? I would like to have a manual, and I don't mind paying for the distro--AAMOF, I do not have a working CD burner at the moment, so I would have to buy something anyway. (I used to think I was computer-savvy, but now I think I'm just a dunce!) And, no, I don't spend all my time in this Win OS, but I had to print something.... --dm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Too many things like that, still ... can't get the cisco vpn to work, because my kernel is smp, can't get the SLED/Novell VPN to work,

Ummm interesting, I vpn to a Cisco VPN server all the time from openSUSE with no problems. OK, I'm not using the Cisco provided vpn software... I wonder if that's the difference? I use vpnc from the openSUSE repositories. su to root, run vpnc, enter my login information and securekey number and I'm in. It works perfectly every time. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

grep -i fuck /usr/src/linux/* -R /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/sunos_ioctl.c: /* Binary compatibility is good American knowhow fuckin' up. */ /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/process.c: /* fuck me plenty */ /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */ /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/head.S: /* XXX Fucking Cypress... */ /usr/src/linux/arch/ppc/syslib/ppc405_pci.c: * the kernel try to remap our BAR #1 and fuck up bus /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/sgi-ip22/ip22-setup.c: * fucking with the memory controller because it needs to know the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/kernel/irixelf.c:#if 0 /* XXX No fucking way dude... */ /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/kernel/irixioctl.c: * irixioctl.c: A fucking mess... /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't try to access /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't try to access /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't try to access /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't even give the /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/pci/ops-bridge.c: * IOC3 is fucked fucked beyond believe ... Don't try to access /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */ /usr/src/linux/arch/parisc/kernel/sys_parisc.c:/* Fucking broken ABI */ /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/mtrr/generic.c:/* Some BIOS's are fucked and don't set all MTRRs the same! */ /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.c: * Some Athlon laptops have really fucked PST tables. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/DocBook/kernel-locking.tmpl: If you don't see why, please stay the fuck away from my code. /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/bt819.c: BUG? Why does turning the chroma comb on fuck up color? /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/sunhme.c:/* Only Sun can take such nice parts and fuck up the programming interface /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/sunhme.c: /* This card is _fucking_ hot... */ /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/b44.c: /* ??? What the fuck is the purpose of the interrupt mask /usr/src/linux/drivers/mtd/mtd_blkdevs.c: registered, to prevent the link/init ordering from fucking /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/watchdog/shwdt.c: * brain-damage, it's managed to fuck things up one step further.. /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/pci/cmd640.c: * These chips are basically fucked by design, and getting this driver /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/esp.c: * how bad the target and/or ESP fucks things up. /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/esp.c: * phase things. We don't want to fuck directly with /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/esp.c: /* Be careful, we could really get fucked during synchronous /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/NCR53C9x.c: * how bad the target and/or ESP fucks things up. /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/NCR53C9x.c: /* Be careful, we could really get fucked during synchronous /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/qlogicpti.h:/* Am I fucking pedantic or what? */ /usr/src/linux/fs/jffs/intrep.c: don't fuck up. This is why we have /usr/src/linux/fs/binfmt_aout.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */ /usr/src/linux/include/asm-m68k/sun3ints.h:/* master list of VME vectors -- don't fuck with this */ /usr/src/linux/include/linux/netfilter/xt_limit.h: /* Ugly, ugly fucker. */ /usr/src/linux/include/asm-parisc/spinlock.h: * writers) in interrupt handlers someone fucked up and we'd dead-lock /usr/src/linux/include/asm-sparc64/system.h: /* If you fuck with this, update ret_from_syscall code too. */ \ /usr/src/linux/include/asm-cris/arch-v32/spinlock.h: * writers) in interrupt handlers someone fucked up and we'd dead-lock /usr/src/linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-) /usr/src/linux/net/netfilter/nf_queue.c: /* James M doesn't say fuck enough. */ /usr/src/linux/net/netfilter/xt_limit.c: * Alexey is a fucking genius? /usr/src/linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_snmp_basic.c: * (And this is the fucking 'basic' method). /usr/src/linux/net/xfrm/xfrm_algo.c: /* Fuck, we are miserable poor guys... */ /usr/src/linux/sound/oss/opl3.c: * What the fuck is going on here? We leave junk in the beginning /usr/src/linux/sound/oss/aci.c:/* The four ACI command types are fucked up. [-: Gotta love it -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Ben Kevan wrote:

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grep -i fuck /usr/src/linux/* -R [...] (removed needless crap)

Gotta love it

So you really know who introduced these comments?

Most of the kernel profanity was inserted by a certain redhat dude ;) Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:08, Ben Kevan wrote:

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Gotta love it

It's a versatile word!

% grep -Ri fuck /usr/src/linux/* |wc -l 57

At a glance, net/netfilter/nf_queue.c is cute. drivers/scsi/qlogicpti.h could have been me. Hmmm... Now that I think of it, of my code might still linger in the AIX TCF kernel. I hope I didn't disgrace myself or my former employer. Of course, since they were later bought out by CA, who the fuck cares... Oops!

RRS

And lets not forget our common foe: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795 "*Embarrassments* In the struggle to meet deadlines, I think pretty much all programmers have put in comments they might later regret, including swearwords and acerbic comments about other code or requirements. Also, any conscientious coder will put in prominent comments warning others about the trickier parts of the code. Comments like "UGLY TERRIBLE HACK" tend to indicate good code rather than bad: in bad code ugly terrible hacks are considered par for the course. It would therefore be both hypocritical and meaningless to go through the comments looking for embarrassments. But also fun, so let's go. Curse words: there are a dozen or so "fucks" and "shits", and hundreds of "craps". Some dissatisfaction with the compiler is expressed in private\shell\shell32\util.cpp:" Happens everywhere, everywhere that developers hit frustration that is. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org