Mikus, thanks for the detailed reply, certainly helped.... hmmm stuck with SuSE 9.1 but I think I'l give it a bash... Cheers. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:28:14 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus@bga.com> wrote:
In list.suse, you wrote on Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:15:13 -0600:
I would like to upgrade my monitor to an LCD ( TFT ??? ) Monitor, however I'm concerned about spending the money to then discover that it won't work with my suse box....
I have several SuSE systems with LCD monitors. It has been my experience that I was more comfortable with telling YaST/SaX2 to use the GENERIC (LCD) specification rather than choose from their model list (my LCD panels were so new they were *not* in the list, and I wasn't happy with the substitute model number it chose).
I'm using SuSE 9.2, which uses xorg rather than xfree86 for X. I had to get the *latest* SaX2 for it to work with xorg -- the SaX2 that was on the 9.2 distribution DVD did not work for me.
Are there any considerations that need to be made in choosing an lcd monitor... i.e. what happens if it not in the list of know monitors in YaST ? I also noticed that some monitors say required os are windows / mac ??? aren't monitors os independent ?
There is at least one well-advertised LCD monitor which does __NOT__ have any buttons -- *all* adjustments (brightness, color, etc.) are made through software. I kinda doubt that anyone has ported this "adjustment software" to Linux.
Lastly, how easy is it to actually swap monitors over in linux, I mean as long as suse knows which graphic card is being used then swapping a monitor should not be a problem ?
I don't know how to answer this. Assume that nothing in life is easy.
I use the DVI (digital) cable on my LCD monitors. With one of them, I had to tell the graphic card to *use* its DVI socket -- and I had to __see__ the software panel I was typing in to. So I had to first hook up the analog cable (so I had a screen with which I could work), then switch to the digital cable once the graphic card was set up.
OT question... I've been told to look for a monitor withe + 1.3 million pixels, but when I look at the specs I don't see such details ??? is this supposed to be something else, like colors maybe ?
Affordable LCD panels come in two kinds of construction -- they have either a six-bit or an eight-bit "digital to analog converter". __If__ you are going to be doing any kind of graphical design work (or if your main activity will be to watch color movies) you NEED the eight-bit version. [It will be advertised as supporting 16.7 million colors (note the '7').] If your main activity will be games (i.e., less emphasis on *exact* color), you'll do ok with the six-bit version. [It will be advertised as suppporting 16.2 million colors (sort of true -- but only if you count dithering between pixels).]
Panel size is an interesting question. Since spring 2004, a number of *good* 17-inch models have come on the market. [Though earlier not-so-good models are still being offered - avoid anything with a "response time" of 35 milliseconds, or worse.] This "quality upgrade" wave has (IMHO) NOT YET spread to 19-inch models.
1.3 million pixels corresponds to a screen of 1280 x 1024. Yes, "quality" LCD panels come in this size. Note: if you use the "digital" cable, the picture will look horrible *unless* you set the graphics card at the same numbers as the "native" panel size.
And if "game playing" is the be-all and end-all of your existence, buy the LCD monitor with the fastest "response time" that you can afford - even 20 milliseconds might be slower than you want.
Good luck, mikus (I am *not* a gamer)
-- devosc
Ahhh.... I just tried to plugin a new Princeton LCD1700 monitor, before doing so on my (very) old one I set the monitor type as Princeton LCD17, 1280 x 768, and the test didn't cause any breakage on the old monitor so I've accepted it... Anyhow.... when booting up with the new monitor I get to the where it would usually be the login page but I'm being told 'SIGNAL OUT OF RANGE' ---- as far as I can tell what frequencies were originally set should work with the freqs suggested in the new monitores manual... but something is not quite right..... In the manual there are different Types (VESA60, VESA70, and VESA75), I've got no idea whats happening... I do note that VEA75 has the highest freq range out of them all.... Help !?! please that is. G. -- devosc
devosc wrote:
In the manual there are different Types (VESA60, VESA70, and VESA75), I've got no idea whats happening... I do note that VEA75 has the highest freq range out of them all....
Find out what the recommended "native" video mode from the manual. For my Rosewill 17" LCD, 1280x1024 @ 60hz is the native mode. When I switched from my Viewsonic 19" to the LCD, I had to boot into text mode (e.g., init 3) and run sax from there to configure the monitor properly. Christopher Reimer http://www.creimer.ws
Thanks, I got it working when choosing 1280x1024. In YaST I choose LCD 1280x1024 with 70hz and was able to successfully test the configuration. :) Now just need to figure whether out whether I need classes! Cheers, Greg. -- devosc
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 18:04, devosc wrote:
Thanks, I got it working when choosing 1280x1024. In YaST I choose LCD 1280x1024 with 70hz and was able to successfully test the configuration.
:) Now just need to figure whether out whether I need classes!
classes -or- glasses o^o -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
:) Now just need to figure whether out whether I need classes!
classes -or- glasses o^o
:) looks like at the time I definately could of done with some!, glasses that is... eye strain has reduced quite considerably now... Cheers, G. -- devosc
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